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» 16/05/2021 7:32:39 PM Hi David, "However it all falls apart when his apparent son, who may well have actua.....
» 21/06/2012 2:09:16 PM o sung wu, Thanks for the latest comments. Obviously I'm not going to argue with you. I c.....
» 20/06/2012 11:29:11 AM Josephus, I think it is purely historical now but it does seem strange that SDAs were con.....
» 20/06/2012 11:22:07 AM o sung wu, Thanks for the response both for responding and for what you acknowledged. Giv.....
» 18/06/2012 1:54:49 PM Hi Ludwig, LOL I think I'll skip the traffic discussion for the moment. Not enough time. .....
» 13/06/2012 11:01:52 AM Another key thing was that there was no saliva on the jumpsuit even though it hadn't raine.....
» 13/06/2012 11:01:07 AM Ludwig, I came in to argue with you about the Chamberlain fiasco. ; ) Nevertheless I'm gl.....
» 10/08/2011 1:55:35 PM It wasn't so much simple definitions perse. It was just the fit of the facts in one becaus.....
» 8/08/2011 4:55:18 PM I apologise as I have not yet read all the posts and particularly not your own. An awful l.....
» 8/08/2011 4:52:05 PM Ammonite, Sorry to be slow but what you seem to be saying with your first two definitions.....
» 8/08/2011 11:50:41 AM Doesn't Wikipedia claim that all peer reviewed articles are in the same direction (or am I.....
» 8/08/2011 11:50:20 AM Lexi, Eclipse Now has overstepped the line and gone so I'll ask you questions as you are .....
» 5/08/2011 11:53:02 AM Ammonite, "Many are claiming that scientists have concocted the entire claim out of .....
» 5/08/2011 11:19:36 AM Eclipse Now, “You mentioned of my friend Barry Brook that: <<and thus has a living .....
» 5/08/2011 11:02:08 AM It finishes with a look at how Climate model runs from 14 modelling runs (without quantifi.....
» 5/08/2011 10:50:20 AM Lexi, GY said: “…you're politicising a debate that ought to be mostly about facts” It do.....
» 4/08/2011 1:45:04 PM I can’t really tell whether the actual temperature graph is heading toward the B or C. Can.....
» 4/08/2011 1:41:05 PM Then a heat camera on one end of a tube films a flame. Carbon dioxide is introduced to the.....
» 4/08/2011 1:37:56 PM Lexi, Sorry about that. Someone made the suggestion and you do share a fondness for a par.....
» 3/08/2011 4:59:08 PM Lexi, Thanks for the response. Are you or aren't you? I'm hanging out for Eclipse Now to.....
» 3/08/2011 2:54:07 PM Dear Eclipse Now, You said: "Dr Evans is not a climatologist and has never publishe.....
» 3/08/2011 2:19:19 PM PS. The other thing conservative voters see are the predictions and the climategate. As r.....
» 3/08/2011 2:03:26 PM Dear Lexi, Are you Foxy (long story)? If so, why change? You weren't exactly unpopular as.....
» 3/08/2011 1:54:43 PM Dear Eclipse Now, Thanks for the thread and thanks for the information. It is more than t.....
» 23/05/2011 10:10:10 AM In answer to the original question: The guy who did the study ("who founded Recoverin.....
» 23/05/2011 10:00:34 AM "I'm genuinely interested in your response, mjpb." That caught my eye. I will r.....
» 23/05/2011 9:57:14 AM "Significantly greater hippocampal atrophy was also observed from baseline to final a.....
» 27/04/2011 6:22:31 PM AJ Philips, Lemaître I believe originated the theory that attracted that nickname. He des.....
» 27/04/2011 4:09:48 PM Welcome back AJ, “And that is that nothing physical has ever been shown to be anything ot.....
» 27/04/2011 4:05:57 PM Hi Pericles, This seems to be fizzling a little. “But I think we are no nearer to unders.....
» 29/03/2011 10:24:01 AM Pericles, Sorry about the delay. Real life has a habit of side tracking things. You seem.....
» 9/03/2011 11:56:34 AM "I appreciate that you have now given it some thought, mjpb. The "flimsy" .....
» 7/03/2011 4:00:10 PM The evidence available is that natural systems have causes. Step one seems to be consisten.....
» 7/03/2011 3:59:00 PM Hi Pericles, The Boazy comment was meant to be friendly sorry if it caused offence. I sa.....
» 7/03/2011 10:06:10 AM AJ Philips, See you then. Thank you for the discussion......
» 4/03/2011 4:34:12 PM AJ Philips, "And this is exactly why I don’t want to continue. All that waffle and .....
» 4/03/2011 2:02:58 PM ”This just leaves us now with your “Atheists have faith too” claim. You never even addres.....
» 4/03/2011 2:01:40 PM Someone who may or may not be an authority argued that “we ought to believe that things ar.....
» 4/03/2011 1:50:38 PM In your example the x and y seem to hide what appears to me to be a fact that it all depen.....
» 4/03/2011 1:48:33 PM ”The initial burden of proof lies on the positive claim (x is y), because only a small min.....
» 4/03/2011 1:35:28 PM Now as regards the fine tuning, certainly we might think it fortunate that electromagnetis.....
» 4/03/2011 1:33:46 PM ”Since you’re struggling with this fine tuning argument, I’ll point out another reason as .....
» 4/03/2011 1:32:04 PM If that is the way you feel AJ I am happy to accept it and call it a day but not this seco.....
» 3/03/2011 4:04:07 PM “Pericles, That you fail to understand my position, or that we might be at crossed wires .....
» 17/02/2011 10:49:00 AM "It comes as no surprise to me that your six-day posting frenzy came to such a screec.....
» 14/02/2011 3:07:54 PM Thanks for the clarification. There is an interesting story behind the story......
» 14/02/2011 12:10:36 PM Forrest Gumpp, Fascinating developments. So the original article immediately resulted in .....
» 14/02/2011 11:31:11 AM Sorry when I typed: "I wouldn’t but some do and some don’t. However the point is not.....
» 14/02/2011 11:25:01 AM ’...I just thought I’d point out the fact that my arguments last night actually also dispr.....
» 14/02/2011 11:22:32 AM (Or the defendant is a lousy witness and there are no other evidence for them and the defe.....
» 14/02/2011 11:20:15 AM ‘But in general and on the whole, it is theism that is making the original claim and athei.....
» 14/02/2011 11:19:06 AM ‘<<It has been reasonably argued that theism is the default position.>> No, i.....
» 14/02/2011 11:04:23 AM A J Phillips, ”As for this fine tuning argument, your god hypothesis is even more specula.....
» 11/02/2011 4:43:39 PM ”We’re not talking about laws of a land that have ramifications on a whole society. You’re.....
» 11/02/2011 4:42:04 PM What I said was: ‘’Burden of proof is from Roman law and is used in our legal system. It.....
» 11/02/2011 4:41:16 PM A J Phillips, To the contrary the first time you merely said it was fallacious and hinted.....
» 11/02/2011 3:17:02 PM Shintaro, Could you unpack things a little? You haven't been very expansive in your comme.....
» 11/02/2011 1:37:41 PM Forrest Gumpp, If there wasn't irony before there is now that, in conjunction with my res.....
» 11/02/2011 12:40:56 PM 12 b. It would be more miraculous if we were sustained in a hostile environment but then h.....
» 11/02/2011 12:40:11 PM 8. That would be true … for Gods. However we believe that there is only one. 9. He misses.....
» 11/02/2011 12:37:54 PM 4. The argument incorporates the universe because some laws and constants are apparently u.....
» 11/02/2011 12:33:41 PM The multiverse hypothesis is speculation that infinite universes exist in order to explain.....
» 11/02/2011 12:32:41 PM For now I'll give a response to most of the arguments you cut and pasted: 1. Isn't it usi.....
» 10/02/2011 1:52:32 PM At least I can smirk at the irony of that action given the topic......
» 10/02/2011 1:46:48 PM From the same page here is the formulation of the fine tuning argument being considered fo.....
» 10/02/2011 1:00:08 PM Indeed Runner practices what he preaches. He is a former Catholic. Dr Collins does not su.....
» 10/02/2011 11:08:31 AM ”…there really is some reliable evidence for Jesus, when there isn’t. Obviously I don’t ha.....
» 10/02/2011 11:07:20 AM 'Theists don’t absorb arguments that contradict their religious beliefs. They can’t, becau.....
» 10/02/2011 11:06:05 AM On that note the atheist ideal also seems to be able to evoke strong passions (which is ap.....
» 10/02/2011 11:04:30 AM “So how does someone … blindly?” “blindly”? Why do Christians differ? Why do atheists d.....
» 10/02/2011 11:02:51 AM I’ll be interested to know what you say about the fine tuning evidence but on the face of .....
» 10/02/2011 10:55:55 AM [Deleted. Off-topic.].....
» 10/02/2011 10:19:57 AM [Off topic.].....
» 9/02/2011 4:02:53 PM olo should not be sanctioned for allowing both sides of a debate on a controversial topic......
» 8/02/2011 3:10:16 PM Why is there a need to consciousness raise? You are seeking converts? Are you still worrie.....
» 8/02/2011 3:08:52 PM ”What makes religious belief absurd is the certainty … not yet been demonstrated in any wa.....
» 8/02/2011 3:03:12 PM ”Yes, without strong evidence. Not a total absence of any objective evidence. And we’re st.....
» 8/02/2011 3:01:49 PM <<These rhetorically most effective defences aren’t legitimate.>> Yes, they a.....
» 8/02/2011 3:00:07 PM “…given my word”… Agreed. Thanks. Although in spite of coming back so many times you miss.....
» 8/02/2011 2:59:07 PM <<All I see is people convert to atheism when they worry about the burden of carryin.....
» 8/02/2011 2:57:50 PM You did not demonstrate anything of the sort with CS Lewis’ definition and I responded to .....
» 8/02/2011 2:56:45 PM AJ Philips, I’d much prefer to cross swords again before this thread is closed. Didn’t yo.....
» 16/12/2010 1:01:07 PM I was about to type that I haven't time to read all this properly at the moment but your o.....
» 23/11/2010 11:03:39 AM The screening out of nonconformists can start early. It reminds me of the study of psychol.....
» 12/11/2010 1:08:41 PM AJ Phillips, ”Yes, and as we are demonstrating now, that’s a perfectly reasonable thing t.....
» 12/11/2010 12:56:54 PM AJ Phillips, “If I claim that unicorns exist, does it then become your responsibility to .....
» 12/11/2010 12:17:53 PM AJ Phillips, ”Evasive maneuver for what? What kind of evidence would disprove something t.....
» 12/11/2010 11:25:33 AM ”Just take, for example, the many theists on OLO who ... their fingers in their ears singi.....
» 12/11/2010 11:00:04 AM ”...you would be obliged, as a fisher of men, to let the world in on these facts that you .....
» 12/11/2010 10:35:08 AM Philo, I noticed your comment and it stuck in my mind. It has such a ring of truth. I pr.....
» 11/11/2010 4:32:28 PM Thanks for recent posters for keeping it going. This visit was also for the purpose. I gla.....
» 1/11/2010 11:56:23 AM Sorry to go slightly off topic but... I have always wondered if Gallileo stood out amongst.....
» 25/10/2010 10:23:28 AM Philo, "How did you determine your godson was born homosexual? This appears to be a .....
» 21/10/2010 3:57:42 PM Isn't it often said that the probability of Godwin's law applying something that increases.....
» 21/10/2010 12:19:18 PM (The last quote is from Thinker 2 not Yabby).....
» 21/10/2010 12:17:53 PM Note Bugsy’s comment early on. He identified a false dichotomy that is causing confusion s.....
» 13/10/2010 12:02:45 PM How it could happen with 2 men struggling downstair into the watchhouse: "A complicat.....
» 13/10/2010 11:53:25 AM "Would such a case receive similar treatment in Queensland...?" You are suggest.....
» 13/10/2010 10:43:20 AM Sorry I don't have time to read all that but I'm just dropping in to keep this ticking in .....
» 13/10/2010 10:40:22 AM I also agree with you that Australia should sort out its own human rights issues first and.....
» 28/09/2010 1:17:48 PM "those who would steer the ship of state not by a compass, but by the equivalent of r.....
» 28/09/2010 1:14:28 PM ”So this is a mere (and I would suggest deliberate) diversionary tactic used to steer disc.....
» 28/09/2010 1:11:48 PM ”Firstly, my accusation wasn’t an ad homimen because I addressed the issue. I didn’t just .....
» 28/09/2010 1:09:23 PM AJ Philips, ”Of course it doesn’t look sinister. Sophistry would hardly display ingenuity.....
» 27/09/2010 11:15:29 AM Perhaps I can help. It isn't a long quote but perhaps putting certain sentences side by si.....
» 27/09/2010 11:11:27 AM I thought I'd drop in to try to keep this going long enough that I have time to get into i.....
» 20/09/2010 3:08:45 PM Foxy, I agree that millions of Protestants have gone far beyond Bible literalism whether .....
» 14/09/2010 12:27:38 PM Thank you for the clarification......
» 14/09/2010 10:41:53 AM What I’m trying to suggest (without hopefully seeming too antagonistic) is that it is a bi.....
» 14/09/2010 10:41:34 AM Foxy, You are correct that it is a complex issue. You are also correct that one issue is.....
» 13/09/2010 4:34:44 PM Philo, Interesting theory based on the stereotype of male prisoners but did those penguin.....
» 8/09/2010 12:19:05 PM I have been meaning to put something in the other thread to ensure it keeps going as I was.....
» 8/09/2010 12:12:29 PM "If you want to present your “facts” that support the existence of god on the other t.....
» 1/09/2010 1:19:17 PM Foxy, "What came across to me was the concern that... This should concern all of us.....
» 31/08/2010 9:59:23 AM Ludwig, You are correct. However the overtime issue is not that police need to get it fro.....
» 30/08/2010 11:09:29 AM ”<<But the belief that anyone who forms a belief in God is being irrational appears .....
» 30/08/2010 11:04:32 AM “Yes, but they’re both still ‘blind’, as you’ve admitted.” You could say that theism and .....
» 30/08/2010 11:02:59 AM AJ Phillips, Thank you for your reply. Apologies for my tardy response. Again can we keep.....
» 17/08/2010 11:32:14 AM Poirot, Still hanging out for that other opposing view you were talking about but thanks .....
» 17/08/2010 11:22:34 AM StG You spot all the signs unlike two other contributors in here and countless others and.....
» 17/08/2010 11:13:46 AM The issues and the answers that I can clearly distil from this thread are: Anna Bligh wan.....
» 28/07/2010 10:11:50 AM Poirot, I didn't see your post before I did mine but I have experienced what you are talk.....
» 27/07/2010 5:03:47 PM The Blue Cross, Yep you are right there does seem to be alot more than I googled last tim.....
» 27/07/2010 3:49:31 PM The Blue Cross, The Catholic Church never did support witch burning and in Europe were th.....
» 27/07/2010 11:28:43 AM How perfectly the Pope passes on the teachings of Jesus is the subject of various opinions.....
» 26/07/2010 11:53:50 AM Squeers, Hang on I just looked it again. There is a bone to pick. "conceding defeat&.....
» 26/07/2010 11:51:44 AM ”don’t think you were ever what I would call a “thinking atheist”.” Sticks and stones. ”W.....
» 26/07/2010 11:47:49 AM Squeers, The other thread is: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=37.....
» 23/07/2010 1:08:07 PM The Blue Cross, "Pericles... your query to AGIR about 'leaving out' the 2000 year ol.....
» 22/07/2010 3:19:32 PM The Blue Cross, The "sacred tradition" there reads like a use of colourful lang.....
» 22/07/2010 1:54:06 PM Squeers, I thought I was calling a spade a spade based on what you were saying and the wa.....
» 22/07/2010 1:32:36 PM "You can go 'all theological' over this if you like to, the usual response to having .....
» 22/07/2010 1:32:13 PM "mpjb... the thread is not just about the Pope and his infallibility...observe the an.....
» 22/07/2010 12:47:13 PM AJ Philips, Sophistry on my part no doubt in switching to belief. I can type that I belie.....
» 22/07/2010 11:14:28 AM "We'll just have to disagree on the credibility of your beliefs, while I acknowledge .....
» 21/07/2010 1:51:31 PM AlGoreIsRich makes a good point. Priesthood is not about seeking glory even if detractors .....
» 21/07/2010 1:45:01 PM I'm sure the hypothetical BHP directive would be howled down as should your ill informed v.....
» 13/07/2010 11:47:23 AM “Even when he was railing against Christianity, Hitler never ceased using the language of .....
» 13/07/2010 11:40:17 AM I bet you weren't expecting that answer... Sorry wrong forum. I have multiple windows ope.....
» 13/07/2010 11:36:57 AM “Even when he was railing against Christianity, Hitler never ceased using the language of .....
» 13/07/2010 11:17:50 AM David F, “One can be anticlerical, oppose the churches as institutions and still be a bel.....
» 13/07/2010 10:44:16 AM As I understand it Foxy referred to Hitler as an atheist. David F claimed Hitler was a Ch.....
» 12/07/2010 11:07:08 AM Yes better over than under. However even about 1990 when 70s stuff got repopularised he w.....
» 8/07/2010 12:27:06 PM The tragedies that occurred are a very grave evil according to the beliefs of the Church a.....
» 8/07/2010 12:24:25 PM Paul Collins advises that: "Nowadays, however, ecclesiastical superiors are proactiv.....
» 8/07/2010 12:23:02 PM DreamOn, “I must admit I find your constant tirade of denial and obfuscation to be an amu.....
» 7/07/2010 10:23:08 AM Socratease, I largely agree and there is no point in getting pedantic. Sorry that I vent.....
» 6/07/2010 4:00:25 PM Opinionated2, "How might this apply to this topic?...lol" It could reflect bad.....
» 6/07/2010 3:31:20 PM Opinionated2, "Matthew 18:6 is quite explicit also" Absolutely. Indeed the cur.....
» 6/07/2010 3:28:44 PM Opinionated2, "Wouldn't this give their congregations a new lease on life?" Do.....
» 6/07/2010 2:48:22 PM Opinionated 2, Regarding your "other analysis". That apologetic piece by the AB.....
» 6/07/2010 12:20:32 PM Socratease, If parents are ignorant enough to have concern about priests they need inform.....
» 1/07/2010 9:56:42 AM we are unique, Thank you for the kind offer. I am sure it would be much more cost effecti.....
» 25/06/2010 11:21:20 AM I think it is reasonable to offer free ongoing counselling, compensation, an apology, an i.....
» 25/06/2010 10:58:15 AM "Is the Church serving money over GOD? Jesus said "No one can serve two masters&.....
» 25/06/2010 10:56:33 AM Opinionated2, "Do you have a pure Christian heart or do you serve the Church and mon.....
» 23/06/2010 12:25:51 PM I am so glad that this thread hasn't continued to explode. I have no time at the moment bu.....
» 21/06/2010 3:03:10 PM You reinforced your argument with an example where anyone would know the fact without reco.....
» 21/06/2010 2:49:35 PM Foxy, Thank you for your kind comments way back when. There has been 12 pages of posts si.....
» 18/06/2010 3:52:09 PM David f, That is the first time Dawkins would probably have been accused of being a Chris.....
» 18/06/2010 3:42:42 PM "If Philo believes that simple arithmetic is a faith system, then he is confused - ex.....
» 18/06/2010 2:46:32 PM A J Phillips, "Wow, enough faith to be an atheist? ... exercise reason get to be the.....
» 18/06/2010 2:07:04 PM Severin, I'd also like to take issue with that post. When people put faith in something .....
» 18/06/2010 1:53:12 PM david f, Saying that Hitler's atheism is a myth is putting it a little too strongly. From.....
» 18/06/2010 1:47:27 PM David f, Dear mjpb, If you mean support of slavery by Christians perhaps he could have g.....
» 18/06/2010 11:50:48 AM David f, Wilberforce was a Christian upholding Christian beliefs. Given the title of the .....
» 18/06/2010 10:49:02 AM Boazy, Your comments to grateful...*sigh*.....
» 17/06/2010 3:21:02 PM "...until the day it manifests itself in a horrible massacre... " Actually as a.....
» 17/06/2010 3:20:36 PM "Another explanation that I've come across is again given by Richard Dawkins, in his .....
» 17/06/2010 10:19:52 AM At least the insulation program is getting Australia noticed internationally. Mark Steyn w.....
» 4/06/2010 11:59:37 AM Belly, I very much appreciate the response. I have been curious for some time. What I al.....
» 3/06/2010 10:31:55 AM A J, Yes you are being paranoid. That definitely isn't George. Belly, I sincerely hope .....
» 2/06/2010 2:18:29 PM Belly, Thanks for prioritising it. It is scary that the leader of the group became a lea.....
» 2/06/2010 2:08:51 PM Toronto - Archbishop Thomas Colins since January 30 2007 Not in America so not researched.....
» 2/06/2010 2:06:34 PM "Not a very savory site that one that you just quoted. It has links to Indonesian por.....
» 1/06/2010 3:18:26 PM I note that the Pope keeps plugging away trying to sweep out the filth. http://www.mail.c.....
» 1/06/2010 1:28:19 PM George, "... those who denigrate any religious faith do not display, and definitivel.....
» 1/06/2010 1:08:39 PM Belly, I think your approach would be sound. If that were to happen I hope your view gain.....
» 31/05/2010 1:58:03 PM Belly, “I remain amused by the re shaping of God by followers in this thread. it amuses m.....
» 31/05/2010 1:57:38 PM Extropian1, "With respect, this is a misperception. If religion is absent then athe.....
» 28/05/2010 10:13:19 AM "Communism is not the result of atheism (or the lack of religion) as there is nothing.....
» 28/05/2010 10:12:44 AM AJ Philips, From your initial post I don't think we will have a meeting of the minds. You.....
» 28/05/2010 9:24:43 AM stevenlmeyer, Thanks for googling the religious numbers. That was educational for me. I h.....
» 27/05/2010 2:53:50 PM It sure sounds like something Catholic. If you mean of equal worth then I am glad that you.....
» 27/05/2010 1:29:24 PM benq, An even more common ploy in debating is the ad hominem approach. So please don't le.....
» 27/05/2010 1:22:19 PM stevenlmeyer, I have always heard the third was Judaism. Hence my comment. If it is hindu.....
» 27/05/2010 10:55:58 AM stevenlmeyer, You are entitled to your faith. Thank you for sharing......
» 27/05/2010 10:53:39 AM Belly, You would be pleased to have noticed that it is not just us filthy flies that have.....
» 27/05/2010 10:24:03 AM Proxy, Dysfunctional is a broad term. However you seem to be adducing an innuendo that th.....
» 26/05/2010 10:32:55 AM Dream On, Thank you for attempting to promote the rights of fellow human beings in a situ.....
» 26/05/2010 10:11:16 AM Way to go Graham! Since the people who fell foul of posting rules will probably not compli.....
» 12/05/2010 2:56:32 PM Opinionated2, "And for all you Pell haters….http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nat.....
» 12/05/2010 11:36:28 AM Pericles, I don't know what to say about that situation but the original theory does not .....
» 11/05/2010 9:53:20 AM But most of them are dead...or booted out by the current Pope......
» 10/05/2010 11:21:28 AM Proxy, Are you outraged that the AAP suggest that "only pricking or incising the cli.....
» 10/05/2010 10:25:14 AM Shadow Minister, I don't think there were any other organisations in those days that care.....
» 7/05/2010 3:44:17 PM I have now read them all. Good to see the outcome. Shadow Minister, There must be some r.....
» 7/05/2010 3:13:19 PM Pericles, I will read the intervening posts in due course but I note that on Thursday, 22.....
» 7/05/2010 1:31:46 PM Proxy, I think you are oversimplifying to label it as simply a homosexual problem. The yo.....
» 7/05/2010 12:51:23 PM Proxy, Great find! There are many uncanny similarities but also enough differences that t.....
» 20/04/2010 2:31:41 PM Pericles, I don't know about the inferences based on religion and am rather skeptical. Yo.....
» 20/04/2010 10:20:59 AM Oliver, That is a remarkable statement. "It was the Boston police who were “thwarte.....
» 19/04/2010 4:38:46 PM Hey Foxy, "There's no doubt that the clerical profession has taken a severe batterin.....
» 19/04/2010 11:53:38 AM “We should be aware of the remarkable power of the mind to concoct false memories, especia.....
» 19/04/2010 11:47:29 AM George, I am amazed that Dawkins includes those comments. The analogy with the Salem witc.....
» 19/04/2010 10:16:36 AM DreamOn, In my second post (the second post) on page 35 of this thread I also quote Dr Co.....
» 16/04/2010 3:10:13 PM Blue Cross, My apologies Proxy is in the other of two threads concerning this and I got t.....
» 16/04/2010 2:57:04 PM Opinionated2, You seem pretty keen on that document. Perhaps the following URL will expla.....
» 16/04/2010 2:43:28 PM And as Dr Collins puts it: "Nowadays, however, ecclesiastical superiors are proactive.....
» 16/04/2010 2:41:28 PM Proxy, I accidentally responded to you in Should the Pope be thread as someone raised sim.....
» 16/04/2010 11:08:16 AM The Blue Cross, I just looked at your first link. However it made me immediately curious......
» 15/04/2010 3:40:09 PM Opinionated2, "Runner....Child abuse is...WRONG...in every community." That i.....
» 15/04/2010 11:25:20 AM Severin, I can't think of anything relevant left that they could change......
» 15/04/2010 11:23:35 AM Blue Cross, "Now a Catholic one is in court, complete with cover-ups at the Bishops .....
» 14/04/2010 2:30:02 PM Suzeonline, "Further, they(Runner and Proxy) would have us believe that the Catholic.....
» 13/04/2010 3:58:30 PM Shadow Minister, I can give some extremely relevant insight into the current situation vi.....
» 13/04/2010 11:49:10 AM Thanks for the links George. Wow! Compare the report CJ linked to with the background of .....
» 13/04/2010 11:40:13 AM Foxy, Definitely. Do you get the feeling that noone is reading all your posts or that man.....
» 13/04/2010 11:13:52 AM Hi Pericles, "Unswerving loyalty, eh?" Yes. I am sure they were thrilled to pu.....
» 13/04/2010 10:40:51 AM To those justice obstruction commentors, You probably aren't interested but the media are.....
» 12/04/2010 2:49:04 PM "Sure, its good to see that the church itself recognizes the problem, and is taking s.....
» 12/04/2010 2:47:43 PM Yabby, Paris seems to be doing better than she should be. Pericles, "Apologists fo.....
» 12/04/2010 1:42:17 PM pelican, "In any other sphere those who aid and abet child molesters are subject to .....
» 12/04/2010 1:32:44 PM Yabby, Losing significance? It seems to be in the news every day and triggering off count.....
» 12/04/2010 11:41:09 AM Thanks Foxy. I am embarassed to admit that I knew that the Pope's office waived reliance o.....
» 12/04/2010 10:15:25 AM At least one country (how about US of A as things were uncovered there first) should have .....
» 12/04/2010 10:15:06 AM Pericles, "You missed the point, Proxy... Those in Hollywood who have "defende.....
» 9/04/2010 2:44:46 PM Opinionated 2, ”I'll let this site argue the Peter was the first Pope question....http://.....
» 9/04/2010 2:20:45 PM Opinionated 2, ”How many times has the Catholic Church reported one of it's members direc.....
» 9/04/2010 1:39:38 PM From a "Statement of Bernard Fellay, Superior of the Fraternity of St. Pius X" i.....
» 9/04/2010 1:30:19 PM Beyond the fact that he went to court with Ridsdale we can only speculate. Broken Rites ha.....
» 9/04/2010 1:27:36 PM Suzeonline, I also suspect that paedophiles have some type of genetic issue combined with.....
» 8/04/2010 5:03:22 PM Opionated2, I believe in the rule of law and punishment for those who break the law but I.....
» 8/04/2010 2:01:33 PM Robert, It just occurred to me that the options being debated are God loving individuals .....
» 8/04/2010 1:20:05 PM Oliver, You should have also included Belly in that as he has questioned the genuiness of.....
» 8/04/2010 1:10:18 PM Robert I don't. However in the Murphy case the abuse was from 50s to 70s and he died from .....
» 8/04/2010 11:17:37 AM Belly, Saying sorry cannot undo any evil. Fundies still with a faith like to tell everyb.....
» 8/04/2010 10:36:22 AM Robert, I'm with Suzie. Up front I admit the bias that if Jesus talked about being a eunu.....
» 7/04/2010 4:38:26 PM Your link 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpZz8Ps6u6M The BBC claim that the Pope cover.....
» 7/04/2010 4:37:09 PM Opinionated 2, Generally fair comments if the allegations are all true. If it was all as .....
» 7/04/2010 10:54:21 AM we are unique, I refer to my previous celibacy comments. I’d add that I don’t see the uni.....
» 7/04/2010 10:48:58 AM Foxy, Thanks for that. I have no idea where I have buried my copy. It must be around some.....
» 6/04/2010 5:20:55 PM Suzeonline, It is right to be upset over the current revelations of historical child sexu.....
» 31/03/2010 11:19:46 AM The drones could be a highly effectual way of a US computer geek safely killing people in .....
» 10/03/2010 4:27:30 PM ”But by what right do you or your fundy mates presume to permanently interfere in the sexu.....
» 10/03/2010 4:23:57 PM Cevilia, ”Anybody who values freedom of choice has a right to comment on any issue they l.....
» 9/03/2010 4:44:33 PM The member stated that it is unlikely that they will adopt a more negative position. The q.....
» 9/03/2010 4:37:13 PM Cornflower, ”The RACP is in very good company when it advises against ... “ Based on inc.....
» 8/03/2010 2:29:49 PM I don’t know how extensive their review was but, if dishonesty is ruled out (which I do fo.....
» 8/03/2010 2:22:06 PM The 0.2% and 0.6% I know relate to huge studies of neonates/newborns undergoing the proced.....
» 8/03/2010 2:15:55 PM Cornflower, Your opinion based on the Royal Australian College of Physicians comments are.....
» 4/03/2010 2:35:25 PM Houellebecq, "Not me. I just don't care enough." Fair comment. Although I had .....
» 4/03/2010 12:54:42 PM ”Also, the glans of the penis, when unprotected by foreskin, is said to become less sensit.....
» 4/03/2010 12:53:22 PM CJ, Well outside of the anthropological you don’t really seem to be on top of the current.....
» 3/03/2010 4:06:17 PM Why Houellebecq the skin is a very large organ estimated to be about 2 square metres. Remo.....
» 3/03/2010 2:36:21 PM CJ Morgan, Fluoridation and circumcision both can help prevent problems just as immunizat.....
» 3/03/2010 9:56:05 AM Cornflower, Do you have evidence that all cultures in diverse geographical locations prac.....
» 26/02/2010 1:33:29 PM Hi Celivia, But 'potential' medical benefits are not the same as actual established medic.....
» 24/02/2010 10:42:36 AM or U-Tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idTHcot8tLc&feature=related http://www.youtube......
» 24/02/2010 10:38:28 AM I presume of course you are referring to mainstream Australian media not things like pyjam.....
» 24/02/2010 10:33:17 AM Without wanting to go too off track with the other aspect of preventative medicine but Cor.....
» 24/02/2010 10:15:02 AM Well I'm glad you predicted that as I never would have. I am amazed. Almost everything I h.....
» 23/02/2010 10:06:31 AM Fluoridation, vaccination, circumcision. They are a good idea just deal with it. Why do so.....
» 4/01/2010 9:00:36 AM More Bishops resign: http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1225/abuse.html.....
» 23/12/2009 12:01:05 PM It might be better to organise those links for more clarity. The first link (in my reorde.....
» 10/12/2009 9:59:18 AM Hi Oliver, You read some interesting things. You mentioned that widows were discouraged f.....
» 9/12/2009 12:54:41 PM Dear Foxy, Thank you. You may be right on both counts regarding priestly celibacy. Howe.....
» 8/12/2009 2:16:25 PM Foxy, Thank you! I know we don't see all Catholic Church issues exactly alike and you cou.....
» 8/12/2009 1:24:32 PM Even when other religious groups do get reported in the media for similar misconduct the i.....
» 8/12/2009 12:14:58 PM Shadow Minister, "I can't believe that you are trying to make excuses for their beha.....
» 7/12/2009 3:19:55 PM Shadow Minister, I skimmed through the article.Actually I have seen similar estimates for.....
» 7/12/2009 12:16:13 PM Shadow Minister, "However, I do want action to prevent the damage they inflict on th.....
» 7/12/2009 10:03:20 AM Oliver, It would be a good start if you read your Courier Mail story. It had nothing to .....
» 4/12/2009 11:09:24 AM Shadow Minister, Please don't despair. The comments were reasonable. Currently in the Ca.....
» 2/12/2009 4:11:26 PM Shadow Minister, "An audit would involve speaking to many of those that had not comp.....
» 2/12/2009 1:29:45 PM Shadow Minister, Summary of American sexual abuse of minors: Protestant annual incidence.....
» 1/12/2009 3:45:48 PM Runner, The next thing I note is: There is nothing unscriptural about infant baptism and.....
» 1/12/2009 3:31:32 PM Shadow Minister, "In your link, initially the numbers seem the same, but when you lo.....
» 30/11/2009 1:35:24 PM I’ll get back to Runner. Shadow Minister, “The proof of the pudding is that while it hap.....
» 30/11/2009 1:05:16 PM You said that priests are forbidden to marry in contrast with scripture. Scripture doesn’t.....
» 30/11/2009 12:45:12 PM Regarding Mary the Queen title is a scriptural inference. Are you are familiar with the Ol.....
» 30/11/2009 12:36:43 PM Runner, I appreciate your input into these discussions. The only religion outsiders wish .....
» 27/11/2009 2:55:02 PM Good on ya' Shadow Minister. You cite a news item relating to a report which found that 3.....
» 26/11/2009 3:25:28 PM CJ, I left it out deliberately because I didn't agree with the apparent diplomacy. If it .....
» 26/11/2009 2:54:24 PM Pynchme, "...or he continued to identify more closely with his father" ...or h.....
» 26/11/2009 12:00:14 PM CJ, "It was the gunman's father who had a history of abuse of his wife and child. It.....
» 26/11/2009 10:27:13 AM How amazingly lateral. Some misogynist psycho goes on a mass killing spree and Canadian me.....
» 24/11/2009 3:13:01 PM "What I do know is the health professionals are far better organised than most, and s.....
» 24/11/2009 11:17:35 AM The central issue was originally whether lawyers should self regulate. A profession has tr.....
» 10/11/2009 4:10:32 PM Agreed. More background is needed to make a relevant comment. With such scant information .....
» 2/11/2009 2:07:58 PM Hi Hanrahan, "Increasing numbers of young people are choosing to become vegetarians .....
» 20/10/2009 11:11:43 AM Houellebecq, "I just wish some gay people wouldn't be so camp and theatrical. I find.....
» 19/10/2009 11:13:27 AM Suzieonline, "However, I think if we were all honest we would agree that a little ta.....
» 16/10/2009 4:43:21 PM Thanks Graham. It is always a lively topic of conversation......
» 16/10/2009 1:08:00 PM GrahamY, Yep you are biased by your background and no your sister wouldn't be smarter. Be.....
» 13/10/2009 1:51:34 PM E.Sykes "forgive me but errrrr? "what you are saying actually makes no sense w.....
» 13/10/2009 12:22:14 PM E. Sykes, Again I don't consider it blackface because they used cheap makeup for a tacky .....
» 13/10/2009 11:31:48 AM Clownfish, "If it wasn't racist, then on what basis was the jibe at Kamahl included?.....
» 12/10/2009 4:14:38 PM Yes whether or not the segment is considered racist should not depend on comparing the qua.....
» 24/09/2009 3:06:31 PM Hi AJ Phillips, "Secular fundamentalists, eh? Who are these people who believe ...a.....
» 23/09/2009 9:25:57 AM I fully agree with two slight qualifications. Turn Right Then Left said something along th.....
» 8/09/2009 2:35:20 PM Worst in what respect? Some relevant news: http://www.zenit.org/article-26770?l=english.....
» 31/08/2009 12:51:07 PM CJ Morgan, I agree with you again. Hopefully in this thread on this topic it won't offend.....
» 18/08/2009 11:18:30 AM "even one is one too many." No argument there. "This is not a case of &qu.....
» 17/08/2009 3:33:52 PM Oliver, “Yet, could it be the bonds between memebers of the clergy are so tight, the Pope.....
» 13/08/2009 11:12:36 AM Belly, Re: your response to me:Here here. Children were apparently protected prior to the.....
» 11/08/2009 10:14:09 AM "Hello belly, I agree with you when you say "parenting, unless harm can be prove.....
» 7/08/2009 1:10:46 PM The other issue that comes to mind are the mandarin and masses dichotomy that brilliant Br.....
» 7/08/2009 1:09:33 PM I am firmly in favour of smacking as a disciplinary tool being legally available and agree.....
» 30/07/2009 11:44:55 AM If free range eggs were the only available they would have to be more competitive. Besides.....
» 20/07/2009 12:42:45 PM Fractelle, Is your discussion with Col just in here or is it a continuation of a discussi.....
» 17/07/2009 4:13:29 PM "Yes, I regard these “Third Gender” misfits as people who have an overdeveloped sense.....
» 26/06/2009 2:35:25 PM I included the following comment previously. I still find the situation fascinating. Here .....
» 22/06/2009 9:53:40 AM I was shocked when I heard on the radio that it happened in Australia. I was waiting to fi.....
» 19/06/2009 12:42:51 PM Interesting article. http://www.infonews.co.nz/news.cfm?l=1&t=0&id=38129.....
» 9/06/2009 5:05:38 PM DreamOn, ”Maybe its U who are not normal?” Perhaps. But that doesn’t change the fact tha.....
» 9/06/2009 1:47:40 PM Personally, at this stage, I think that eliminating pets is an overkill and they do provid.....
» 2/06/2009 9:52:27 AM This discussion doesn't hold much interest to me so forgive my 'drive by' comment. I had .....
» 2/06/2009 9:34:00 AM Alan, I have just had time to read your original article. I am not confident that the Fr.....
» 29/05/2009 11:22:58 AM Bach, I doubt Father Kennedy is retarded. Few atheists can convince a large group of peop.....
» 21/05/2009 11:36:58 AM Sorry Ludwig, It is a nice thought but the public are used as a cash cow not a source of .....
» 11/05/2009 11:13:36 AM Thanks again. Apart from the Charismatics (who have very vibrant services) many orthodox.....
» 8/05/2009 12:24:14 PM "Where did you hear to the contrary?" Courier Mail 21 Feb states: Writer: &quo.....
» 6/05/2009 3:34:00 PM Hi Alan, "He definitely believes in God – but “an everywhere God” or “the ground of .....
» 5/05/2009 2:39:22 PM AlanA, Thank you for your reply. You seem to have virtually narrowed things down to wheth.....
» 1/05/2009 12:15:48 PM Alan A, I suspect that the Archbishop already embraces such a pastoral style. I believe h.....
» 30/04/2009 4:10:50 PM Pericles has a point irrespective of whether people think that the Catholic Church fails t.....
» 20/03/2009 11:12:51 AM TurnRightThenLeft, When your question is answered I suspect CJ will be vindicated to a de.....
» 16/03/2009 3:04:03 PM George, Yes the issue has developed. At first blush I would also think that anything pro.....
» 16/03/2009 2:40:01 PM Fractelle, "Am I correct that you are excising the Catholic Church from any responsi.....
» 12/03/2009 11:53:22 AM Exterminator, Are you asking did it really happen? If so I believe there is some truth i.....
» 5/03/2009 10:23:03 AM Foxy, Thanks. Bazz, I am open to being wrong about the risk. I note that Foxy did adduc.....
» 4/03/2009 2:09:59 PM Hi Foxy, I should have included a smiley with the original comment. Good! As you know (bu.....
» 4/03/2009 12:31:26 PM Sofisu, ?The stories I read had her at 31 when the incestous relationship commenced. Baz.....
» 3/03/2009 10:48:52 AM So are you proseltysing for atheism or for some obscure Christian sect?.....
» 18/02/2009 1:25:59 PM Opinionated2, I certainly hope the lady can find alternative accomodation with respectful.....
» 16/02/2009 11:54:37 AM I came back because the same friend sent me another such email today with a bunch of stori.....
» 13/02/2009 10:45:09 AM Bronwyn, “Yes, Islamophobia is alive and well, very much here on OLO, and too on the Inte.....
» 11/02/2009 10:26:04 AM I also wanted to express my approval for Pericles comment......
» 10/02/2009 11:29:13 AM "Just look at the disgusting way the Greens are promoting their religion through the .....
» 9/02/2009 1:44:59 PM Meredith, PM Rudd used the term "mass murderers" I think when police investigat.....
» 6/02/2009 10:29:30 AM Foxy, Thanks. George, "I am not going to speculate whether this was on purpose - a.....
» 6/02/2009 8:28:39 AM and here is link for that news http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=93538.....
» 4/02/2009 2:35:29 PM Dear Foxy, Thank you but someone else probably deserves an apology more than even George......
» 3/02/2009 4:40:50 PM I know this won't change anything for people determined to bag the Pope no matter what and.....
» 3/02/2009 3:33:09 PM Hello George, I read about that thanks for sharing it. Good on Fellay for dealing with hi.....
» 30/01/2009 2:42:32 PM So on the (evening of the? I think I read somewhere) 21st January, 2009 this guy for a Soc.....
» 30/01/2009 12:52:30 PM Perhaps being a holocaust denier or whatever slant that others in here put on it wasn't th.....
» 22/01/2009 12:35:56 PM KMB, I too believe you have raised a valid point and agree with Meredith's post on 21 Jan.....
» 19/01/2009 1:18:26 PM Tuckeroo, If that is oorrect he is a busy boy......
» 6/01/2009 8:11:04 PM meredith, "Realistically though I push for animal-welfare and rights to adopt a more.....
» 6/01/2009 3:52:43 PM But that comment was from Pedro Jose Maria Simon Castellvi...(?).....
» 6/01/2009 11:35:21 AM Countryperson, You obviously feel strong about priests not having sex (and homosexuality).....
» 6/01/2009 10:42:14 AM meredith, Wow! Regarding your first paragraph and the party kink drug comment you are pre.....
» 5/01/2009 9:49:16 PM Hi meredith, "What I ask is would it cause more problems than it would solve... Is i.....
» 5/01/2009 4:05:42 PM "I think it is a bit like the euthanasia debate... ultimately people should have righ.....
» 4/01/2009 4:50:33 PM TurnRightThenLeft, "Would that be the same for everyone?" Here. Here. A point .....
» 3/01/2009 9:38:16 PM Veronika, “Non-normative? The norm throughout human history has been that a minority of h.....
» 3/01/2009 9:34:59 PM Sancho, “ mjpb, my experience isn't universal, but each and every tale I've encountered o.....
» 1/01/2009 4:18:22 PM Sancho, "But the misery stems from social and religious vilification, not the mere f.....
» 30/12/2008 8:21:31 PM I'm probably chiming in too late but yep it had nothing to do with his Christmas message. .....
» 30/12/2008 8:03:07 PM Thank you very much for the thumbs up Foxy. There is one thing that I would like to add f.....
» 29/12/2008 1:44:33 PM "No way I want to ever side with those who say global warming is wrong/natural/a beat.....
» 29/12/2008 11:46:48 AM I suspect that safeguards such as proper analysis of each individual case, thorough counse.....
» 29/12/2008 11:46:19 AM TRTL, That is a very interesting hypothetical. However I think that if there was a hypot.....
» 18/12/2008 12:06:23 PM Divorce Doctor, “… why do they have to rub it in our face. like any "discrimination&.....
» 18/12/2008 8:16:01 AM I have gone from agnostic to skeptic. It is a great excuse for a tax and a gravy train for.....
» 17/12/2008 11:01:54 AM Pynchme You make some very good points and I was virtually in love until your horrible tw.....
» 16/12/2008 10:10:53 AM I think that there are (*at least*) two different issues which get mixed up in this debate.....
» 12/12/2008 12:24:58 PM There may be some method to the madness. The political powers that be involved would want .....
» 12/12/2008 12:06:19 PM David, How dare you call Meredith’s logical conclusions from her argument unadulterated n.....
» 12/12/2008 10:33:10 AM I heard on the news yesterday that Federal police had busted a big paedophile ring. Normal.....
» 12/12/2008 8:04:32 AM I mean the pastors did it within their Church. The atheist foundation are obviously trying.....
» 12/12/2008 8:01:55 AM A pair of pastors got in strife for doing something similar to Islam that the atheist foun.....
» 11/12/2008 1:39:22 PM "You need a lot more than a fertile imagination to die for something you KNOW is not .....
» 10/12/2008 10:13:49 AM Gibo, “I appreciate conflict within.” I won’t argue. I can’t read your mind. However it .....
» 9/12/2008 4:07:53 PM Spkout, I hope that your sister and her husband’s relationship improves as does the rela.....
» 2/12/2008 12:15:59 PM I witnessed this while at the AP and kept my mouth shut. At my age and a retread, I was lu.....
» 2/12/2008 12:10:19 PM Dream On, “My view is …” Agreed. If it doesn’t relate to a pastor / can’t make Christian.....
» 1/12/2008 8:58:39 AM Runner and Polycarp have a point. Serious misbehaviour of Christians could have the effect.....
» 27/11/2008 11:09:18 AM Mr Nicholls, I started a long post about Polycarp mere reporting etc but it is superfluou.....
» 26/11/2008 12:37:59 PM Ludwig, "We obviously think in a fundamentally different way mj." I'm open to .....
» 26/11/2008 12:11:49 PM david f, "Christianity regards faith as a virtue. This opposes reason." Are yo.....
» 26/11/2008 11:09:57 AM So, if I asked the following you wouldn't think it was insulting? Is atheism a product of.....
» 26/11/2008 9:20:47 AM Ludwig, I'm surprised at you. Your initial post sounds like an unusually nasty, arrogant .....
» 24/11/2008 11:32:33 AM I don't have time to wade into this substantively. However I do want to observe that the t.....
» 10/11/2008 11:11:57 AM Ludwig, I accept your general point that the focus proposed is absurdly narrow. I note m.....
» 4/11/2008 3:28:31 PM Foxy, I haven't followed the link but I know you well enough to know you are being helpfu.....
» 31/10/2008 11:03:26 AM I know this discussion is not really about the puppy but it irks me that the judiciary or .....
» 29/10/2008 1:39:00 PM I've just read the whole thread. Thank you Steele Mann for your lucid grounded contributio.....
» 24/10/2008 10:29:28 AM Oly, I was recently reading about first century Jews and the facts Andrew raised. When I .....
» 23/10/2008 3:18:40 PM 2. As Dr Bruce Metzger has neatly expressed "For somebody now to say that the canon e.....
» 23/10/2008 3:17:17 PM In spite of the facts adduced so far which provide at least "arguments for" &quo.....
» 23/10/2008 12:38:13 PM Pericles, You've dumped me before and come back... I'll keep going. I'd like to expand u.....
» 21/10/2008 10:52:53 AM Evo, Thanks for your thoughts. Davidf, Thanks. We use "belief" in different w.....
» 20/10/2008 1:00:56 PM 1st sentence 3rd paragraph: sorry no such thing as religious truth.....
» 20/10/2008 12:58:52 PM davidf, You apologized to Foxy but as a Christian I'd like to thank you for doing so. Pol.....
» 17/10/2008 1:41:42 PM You guys are just trying to get the high moral ground for your side by competing on diplom.....
» 13/10/2008 9:45:01 AM George, You are welcome. Pericles, With the greatest respect, when Boazy suggested hist.....
» 10/10/2008 1:36:29 PM I am convinced that none of this has escaped his notice, because it was not done in a corn.....
» 10/10/2008 1:31:01 PM Pericles, Moving right along... Circumstantial inferences That the books are substantia.....
» 10/10/2008 1:16:39 PM Pericles, I’m happy to amend the Internal Evidence section of the original post as follow.....
» 10/10/2008 1:13:50 PM Pericles, Sorry I have had a horrendously busy week and deliberately avoided getting side.....
» 6/10/2008 2:21:20 PM ”Celsus: ….” Hopefully Origen had better things to do then debate something that wasn’t s.....
» 6/10/2008 2:17:51 PM Pericles, “I'm not mistaken in that?” Without checking I assume you copied and pasted so.....
» 3/10/2008 3:46:27 PM Pericles, You are back. ”But Jesus went around raising people from the dead, turning wat.....
» 3/10/2008 10:35:04 AM The New Testament was assembled from 27 writings written by 9 different writers over a 20-.....
» 3/10/2008 9:47:42 AM Sancho, And Douglas Adams has an argument that is better made with a puddle but is nevert.....
» 2/10/2008 4:26:24 PM Sancho, I agree that it is incredible to the extent that it is amazing or astonishing but.....
» 2/10/2008 3:26:54 PM "CJ Morgan, I do not remember offering you any arguments, convoluted or not, in favou.....
» 30/09/2008 10:30:19 AM (possibly not) ”I haven't become a serial killer, I haven't joined NAMBLA (that's Boaz's .....
» 30/09/2008 10:28:38 AM Pericles, “What does "a theist who rejects all formal religion" believe that hi.....
» 29/09/2008 2:24:36 PM Veronika, “The Bible is compromised as a historical source because it's a document of fai.....
» 29/09/2008 2:24:03 PM Robert, Although I have a different opinion to that of your conclusions on the topic I ag.....
» 29/09/2008 10:16:50 AM Poly adduced the issue of witness testimony. You claimed there was none. He raised the iss.....
» 29/09/2008 10:14:25 AM Pericles, "My my, George, what a patronizing son-of-a-gun you are!" He seems t.....
» 26/09/2008 2:31:15 PM Okay folks, “The equation of religious belief with truth is mischievous. If a concept can.....
» 25/09/2008 2:58:34 PM Bronwyn, Perhaps neither the religious nor the atheists I refer to are fundamentalist in .....
» 25/09/2008 12:31:20 PM GW, I didn't relate to the way you framed your original question more particularly lumpin.....
» 22/09/2008 11:49:08 AM Pericles, "That's two facts, both wrong, and a serving of paranoia. There is no Shar.....
» 18/09/2008 12:11:29 PM "Calm down." I'm okay but the Islamic thing is a little hard to get to grips wi.....
» 18/09/2008 10:13:07 AM There would be no need to introduce the death penalty if an appeal was available to the Hi.....
» 17/09/2008 11:17:26 AM Young Dan, The Judge who you identified by his sexual preference is actually an Anglican......
» 12/09/2008 8:22:31 AM All, StG resolved the ambiguity by advising that he was referring to inept public servant.....
» 11/09/2008 1:46:08 PM Veronika, I’m glad we see eye to eye on the global issues and you have made some good poi.....
» 11/09/2008 12:02:25 PM Country Gal, “Its not discrimination, that's why the particular body you chose to complai.....
» 11/09/2008 10:48:36 AM StG "How do you conclude it to be 'discrimination' and not just ineptitude, Jolanda?&.....
» 10/09/2008 3:16:02 PM You are welcome. They aren't protected due to the irony I highlighted above. However I un.....
» 10/09/2008 10:49:28 AM Firstly I note that it is unsurprising that no supporters have yet responded. You can alwa.....
» 26/08/2008 9:57:22 AM Fellow Human, You aren't a pseudoname for Graham are you by any chance? It seems strange .....
» 20/08/2008 11:21:36 AM Polycarp, Cutting to the chase the Melbourne University Act is a state act not a Federal .....
» 8/08/2008 9:43:02 AM Dear Foxy, "I'm going to pull out of this discussion." All the best then. Than.....
» 7/08/2008 10:51:24 AM "In that sense Catholicism stands as the very opposite of sectarian, particularist an.....
» 7/08/2008 10:41:13 AM Foxy, Sorry to keep you. "Firstly..." Thank you very much. "I took him .....
» 6/08/2008 4:07:15 PM Given the contents of the document, the argument (not made in Collins’ book) that it justi.....
» 5/08/2008 4:40:24 PM I struggle with the term “primacy of conscience’. I acknowledge an obvious overlap in that.....
» 5/08/2008 4:27:28 PM Another issue is the “primacy of conscience” debate he admits having with Cardinal Pell. B.....
» 5/08/2008 4:07:16 PM (strong refers to the powerful guilt it is calculated to give Bishops) To avoid conflict,.....
» 5/08/2008 3:41:09 PM He forcefully presents the argument that not providing sufficient priests (by countenancin.....
» 5/08/2008 1:28:57 PM Stickey, No. If if you wanted me to say that then I'm glad it came together. In Paul Col.....
» 4/08/2008 3:24:15 PM His dismissal of “Lost” as simplistic (p63) (presumably due to the assumption that correct.....
» 4/08/2008 3:16:07 PM Never before have I seen such a refreshing detailing of the function of certain parts of t.....
» 4/08/2008 3:14:04 PM Another symptom may be his willingness to go into great detail on some things but gloss ov.....
» 4/08/2008 3:12:05 PM Okay Foxy it would probably be disrespectful to not proceed after you have said that. I do.....
» 1/08/2008 1:52:08 PM Hi Spikey, "You show a touching concern for priests accused of sexual abuse and I'm .....
» 1/08/2008 11:02:33 AM And the inside gos on the Brisbane Archbishop which confirmed the rumours was fascinating......
» 1/08/2008 10:58:42 AM Foxy, I'm just concerned that you might be gazing at me with your cyber eyes with great e.....
» 1/08/2008 9:34:20 AM "...no bad blood within the family at all, just a problem of weakness..." Perha.....
» 31/07/2008 3:07:52 PM RobP Your dad has a weak pulse and needs to go to hospital and their reason for not helpi.....
» 31/07/2008 12:55:51 PM "It reminds me of my uncle and his wife. All they ever do is sit around at home, read.....
» 31/07/2008 12:50:30 PM RobP, To avoid being a dead weight and a total hypocrite what should the Church do beside.....
» 31/07/2008 11:34:25 AM I am an climate change agnostic. I can't help noticing those graphs we keep seeing where t.....
» 30/07/2008 4:18:25 PM RobP, We aren't throwing up our hands and being defeatist. (cutting and pasting and twea.....
» 30/07/2008 1:30:55 PM Foxy, As you attempt to wrap up this discussion a 190 page paperback book with a prominan.....
» 30/07/2008 9:23:56 AM "...read the entire book, then evaluate what he has to say in its proper context. It .....
» 29/07/2008 3:11:09 PM Thanks Foxy. I explained why I was asking. You keep calling him Father James Kavanaugh. Do.....
» 29/07/2008 10:46:07 AM Foxy, There is nothing wrong with different opinions. Why not agree to disagree? I have .....
» 28/07/2008 3:41:20 PM Ludwig, "But it makes no sense for all of these different manifestations of bad driv.....
» 28/07/2008 3:25:05 PM Dear Foxy, "... refuse to question what they have learned in childhood..." Tap.....
» 28/07/2008 2:30:56 PM Socrates, "Married priests served the Church since it was founded until it was banne.....
» 28/07/2008 11:59:15 AM Robert, "I'm still thinking about how the ones that divorced wives ...Presumably the.....
» 28/07/2008 11:21:08 AM “My whole argument hinges on leadership in fixing the problem.” But you think the highest.....
» 28/07/2008 10:31:34 AM ”AGAIN,I remind people that even a 10kph increase in speed GREATLY increases the stopping .....
» 28/07/2008 10:22:16 AM Phillips, “Whether "some" people here care to admit it or not, speed and drink .....
» 25/07/2008 1:39:52 PM Rache, Adding to the historical background of priests not having sex is another writing o.....
» 25/07/2008 1:09:59 PM Spikey, George said it best when he said: "As sad as it is what happened to you and.....
» 25/07/2008 11:45:40 AM Foxy, "...God chose what is low and despised in the world...to reduce to nothing thi.....
» 25/07/2008 10:45:16 AM Polycarp, "The old monk ..." The way I heard it he had tears streaming down hi.....
» 24/07/2008 1:59:27 PM StG, Not after putting my foot in my mouth like that. Rache, That is correct and the de.....
» 24/07/2008 1:15:53 PM "...and I do not see any point in trying to answer loaded questions like “When did yo.....
» 24/07/2008 12:50:49 PM StG, Before you fire something like that off please re-read what Runner typed and have a .....
» 23/07/2008 4:19:12 PM Wobbles, It is historically established that requiring priests to be sexually continent .....
» 23/07/2008 2:56:11 PM Ludwig, I owe you an apology. I have looked extensively. It used to be linked to a webpag.....
» 23/07/2008 2:14:24 PM Foxy, “Have you actually read Paul Collins' book?” No. Have you read Michael Gilchrist’s.....
» 23/07/2008 1:00:15 PM TurnRightThenLeft, Runner is a Pentecostal I believe. The media don’t give the full pictu.....
» 23/07/2008 12:56:17 PM Ludwig, "Yes mj. But I wonder just how applicable it is in Australia? Who actually s.....
» 23/07/2008 12:37:45 PM 1. Why would the Church hierarchy think they were best placed to identify the four 'repres.....
» 23/07/2008 10:52:01 AM "Mjpb, if we had a reward system for driving safely and no punishment for driving rec.....
» 23/07/2008 10:03:22 AM Runner, The apparent arrogance is an artifact of Western Civilization believing that it o.....
» 22/07/2008 4:07:27 PM Fractelle, You are correct that I didn’t think about it a lot. Small town doctors have th.....
» 22/07/2008 12:47:20 PM Much earlier a Catholic Bishop laid down a number of requirements for qualifying as a Bish.....
» 22/07/2008 12:46:47 PM Foxy, I agree with Veronika to a point that continence is the theologically important thi.....
» 22/07/2008 9:28:44 AM "Steel, how could we possibly have a non-punitive system without it just being open s.....
» 22/07/2008 9:21:54 AM Oliver, Further to the middle kingdom issue you raised there are a lot of nuances relatin.....
» 21/07/2008 3:43:41 PM Oliver, Some interesting thoughts from you. Thank you. The Catholic Church doesn't see t.....
» 21/07/2008 3:18:30 PM Foxy, There is more involved than newsworthiness. The media don't like the Catholic Churc.....
» 21/07/2008 1:16:37 PM Oliver, "Criminals must not be insulated by the Church. If the Bishops wont do this,.....
» 21/07/2008 12:31:17 PM Runner you have got to the crux of the problem. The media have a lot to answer for. Politi.....
» 21/07/2008 10:36:25 AM Cuphandle, "The reason being given is that the road toll this year is 37 (15 more th.....
» 21/07/2008 10:10:08 AM Ludwig, Further to the points Foxy made and which I agree with I note a news item today I.....
» 18/07/2008 2:41:32 PM Further to my response to George above I located an onpoint albeit American article but it.....
» 18/07/2008 11:22:26 AM The Church has a surge of sexual abuse in the 60s to 80s. In a number of cases it is misha.....
» 18/07/2008 11:17:42 AM Oliver, I agree that the Bishop’s comments were inappropriate and I’m sure he must know b.....
» 17/07/2008 10:25:07 AM George, "I do not understand what is wrong with asking your lawyer's advice and help.....
» 16/07/2008 4:41:26 PM Your comment is so brief I might misinterpret it. If you mean was I referring to your arc.....
» 16/07/2008 1:32:34 PM Spikey, “Lateline tonight. Yet another Pell mishandling of a very serious rape case by on.....
» 16/07/2008 9:54:57 AM Spikey, “ Chris MacIsaac had not had a sex change when I last saw her.” Noted. ”… 'his b.....
» 15/07/2008 3:36:38 PM Ludwig, Perhaps it is something important to him. I can't think of any other explanation......
» 15/07/2008 1:33:41 PM Stickey, ”Without a scrap of evidence, you scurrilously accuse me "...unethically us.....
» 15/07/2008 1:17:21 PM Stickey, I admit my errors. e.g. on 10 July I clarified that "...Pell and Ridsdale w.....
» 14/07/2008 1:10:30 PM mjpb, "I could have sworn that organisation is on very recent record as having slamm.....
» 14/07/2008 11:24:00 AM There are many double standards at play. Everyone calls for tolerance unless it is tolera.....
» 14/07/2008 10:41:09 AM Oliver, "If Bank manager hid a teller's fraud he/she would be in serious trouble. Ye.....
» 14/07/2008 10:18:37 AM Belly, "Pell if he is not forced too leave ...the Catholic church is not ready to ch.....
» 11/07/2008 12:29:38 PM Spikey, “Why ...Pell ... suddenly announced a review of the case at this particular time?.....
» 11/07/2008 11:27:27 AM Spikey, “ Thank you for the additional forensic detail. And your point is...?” The repo.....
» 10/07/2008 1:47:28 PM Spikey, “Yes, … some years apart … but they were seminarians together and shared the same.....
» 10/07/2008 12:36:57 PM George, I am Catholic so I already have a passing familiarity with these things. I can’t .....
» 10/07/2008 10:08:29 AM Oliver, "...statistically, some are going to be deviants and criminals. What annoys .....
» 10/07/2008 9:51:30 AM Gibo, “Mjpb...I really only jumped in on the Police state/World Youth Day thing to mentio.....
» 9/07/2008 4:21:13 PM Spikey, “- Pell and Ridsdale knew each other well - same school, seminarians together and.....
» 9/07/2008 1:01:34 PM "On the eve of his swearing-in as archbishop of Melbourne, Dr Pell said he had had &q.....
» 9/07/2008 12:19:41 PM RobP, “… a paedophilia victim ..” Are you a journalist? If so why is any abuse by a Cath.....
» 9/07/2008 11:10:28 AM Oliver, The general situation was that the priest had made advances to alter boys and had.....
» 9/07/2008 10:53:05 AM Gibo, You are not being very responsive to my actual comments. They relate strongly to yo.....
» 7/07/2008 4:18:56 PM Steel, "mjpb>"Christianity often doesn't get a fair deal"? They are ta.....
» 7/07/2008 11:46:13 AM Thanks Steel Mann. Your anglican comments ring a bell. Thanks for reminding me. But I hop.....
» 7/07/2008 9:05:48 AM Foxy, Talk about pissing on their parade. All that wishful thinking about the public expe.....
» 6/07/2008 1:01:36 PM "My overall concern is with One World Church and what it will do to christian believe.....
» 4/07/2008 5:15:59 PM Gibo, "The photo in the SMH clearly portrayed the Pope taking the worship." Th.....
» 4/07/2008 1:09:28 PM Robert, "mjpb, you obviously don't know how to interpret snippets of information whi.....
» 4/07/2008 10:55:00 AM Gibo, "The Pope has also, already, put himself above The Lord. I have a photo from .....
» 3/07/2008 11:33:13 AM Oliver, "I thought special police powers were "a once only" for APEC. It's.....
» 3/07/2008 11:29:44 AM “Much of my knowledge mjpb re: the RC global empire, incorporating their (coming) ONE WORL.....
» 3/07/2008 10:12:54 AM Gibo, "But mjpb...you were indoctrinated from an early age... and as one priest is k.....
» 2/07/2008 3:48:13 PM "In the RC empire you can find anything." Not surprisingly with 1.5 billion the.....
» 1/07/2008 3:52:29 PM "Personally I'd rather risk the abuse of freedom than the abuse of government power.&.....
» 1/07/2008 1:50:08 PM Robert, Are you agreeing with Foxy that it is analogous to the Olympic Games? What about .....
» 1/07/2008 1:47:10 PM Yes Steel it does appear to be an erosion of civil liberties. Perhaps there may be a conte.....
» 4/06/2008 10:51:56 AM Curaezipirid, What are you doing posting something that actually relates to the thread ti.....
» 3/06/2008 12:53:05 PM “• Mutilation or maiming is an act or physical injury that degrades the appearance or func.....
» 3/06/2008 12:50:59 PM Steel, We can discuss this all we want but it doesn’t change the fact that things like im.....
» 2/06/2008 1:04:45 PM “1. Objectively false huh? Care to research this subject,...” I have and you are wrong. I.....
» 30/05/2008 2:05:47 PM The difference is that the syringe ultimately leaves no trace whilst circumcision normally.....
» 30/05/2008 2:03:12 PM Hi Vanilla, ”The media has deceived you here.” That doesn’t surprise me! ”…. I (don’t) .....
» 29/05/2008 3:00:49 PM "You can observe the mutilation of the baby's sexual genitalia." It isn't getti.....
» 29/05/2008 2:57:48 PM Steel, You probably realised I meant "glans" not "gland" in my last p.....
» 29/05/2008 11:55:00 AM Link 2. Sorry but it just wasn’t working for me and I’m not going to download software spe.....
» 29/05/2008 11:45:57 AM Steele, Link 1 Dear oh dear a u-tube video the ultimate in credible information! I was .....
» 28/05/2008 2:39:14 PM Steel, I'll get back to it. No time right now......
» 28/05/2008 10:41:44 AM CJ, "...but we do seem to be experiencing a re-definition of 'child abuse', don't we.....
» 28/05/2008 10:18:46 AM "No one of you can demonstrate this teenager was harmed in any shape or form." .....
» 22/05/2008 11:24:53 AM Oliver, "Trivia: We a Trichomats. Turtles are Septochomats. Image how incredible the.....
» 20/05/2008 3:21:53 PM “I have three years of Psych. From Sydney U., and, understand that with age regression hyp.....
» 20/05/2008 3:10:46 PM He seems to be cobbling together a variety of cognitive functions with the God thing the m.....
» 20/05/2008 9:51:52 AM David, You will need to speak to some radically different perspectives. You are consideri.....
» 19/05/2008 11:41:05 AM "2. Why did god allow the Pre-Cambrian Extinction?” The point has already been made:.....
» 19/05/2008 11:39:25 AM Oliver, Apologies if you think that this has moved way past your questions but I really d.....
» 14/05/2008 12:58:12 PM I meant get an academic job. He had to work in a patent office until his theories got him .....
» 14/05/2008 12:55:50 PM I suspect common sense in some respects isn't as common as it is believed to be and in oth.....
» 13/05/2008 10:30:36 AM Ludwig, In all the theological perspective that Gibo put forward I believe he didn't get .....
» 13/05/2008 10:12:25 AM Gibo re: aborigines Would you at all concede that God may have provided an opportunity fo.....
» 12/05/2008 10:26:52 AM Gibo, I have said before how I take exception to the cruel taunts you encounter. I notice.....
» 8/05/2008 12:15:29 PM Robert, "In other words I read that damn excuse for a study for no reason. I ought t.....
» 7/05/2008 4:32:21 PM ""that countless minds in the past could not have possibly been clever enough to.....
» 7/05/2008 1:30:25 PM Robert, The list wasn't intended to exclude smacking. From memory most of it came from Bo.....
» 6/05/2008 10:54:53 AM 3. Even with the minor differences in percentages the subjects are at the age where bad be.....
» 6/05/2008 10:39:49 AM Robert, You may have other reasons that you think corporal punishment is risky that you c.....
» 24/04/2008 11:31:47 AM I recall the issue being raised previously but never heard much more about it. It seems th.....
» 23/04/2008 2:54:01 PM Robert, Thanks for the further info. "The first part is similar to David's point ab.....
» 23/04/2008 1:12:24 PM Robert, Can I clarify whether you intend to track down the studies? If so when you do can.....
» 15/04/2008 10:48:40 AM There was something about Dawkins recently so I thought this would fit in. (I'm thinking o.....
» 11/04/2008 4:05:34 PM “ mjpb thinks about the Association of Psychological Science” LOL Sorry I didn’t get arou.....
» 11/04/2008 12:52:18 PM Vanilla, “I know I irritate some of you ... pointing out the failings of religion. I am s.....
» 11/04/2008 11:46:46 AM Foxy, Sorry for this diversion. Pericles, “... most historians agree that religion is a.....
» 10/04/2008 2:02:25 PM ”...How does traditional religion compete with this?” I expect to compete it would need t.....
» 10/04/2008 2:01:57 PM Pericles, http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/tudors/elizabeth_ireland_02.shtml Anyway, .....
» 9/04/2008 2:31:47 PM TRTL, ”I never ...” I interpreted your expressive typing as agitated and the focus was o.....
» 9/04/2008 11:51:48 AM TRTL, Take a few deep breaths. It is just a correlation. The sky isn't falling in just be.....
» 9/04/2008 10:33:00 AM You are probably aware that Neil Sedaka is about to tour Australia. (Yes the old codger th.....
» 9/04/2008 9:42:45 AM Pericles, You might find it amusing when Boazy typed: >>I reject the idea that it .....
» 9/04/2008 9:40:04 AM Boazy, Clearly peforming and publishing a study like that represents some atheist being a.....
» 3/04/2008 11:34:10 AM CJ Morgan & Fractelle, Good points. “There are times when stoicism is appropriate, war.......
» 1/04/2008 12:52:32 PM Fractelle, Thank you very much. "The pressure on boys to be some idealised version .....
» 1/04/2008 11:15:49 AM "Men suicide at far higher rates that women I thought so maybe we learn from women wh.....
» 28/03/2008 9:50:58 AM Gibo, I don't know what to make of your experiences but I admire your strength in the fac.....
» 27/03/2008 3:35:31 PM Fractelle, "Your description reminds me of the Buddhist meditation for mindfulness, .....
» 27/03/2008 2:07:33 PM Here's a definition I googled in case it helps: adj. Of, relating to, consisting of, or h.....
» 27/03/2008 10:52:19 AM Previous posters have number 1 covered so excuse any repetition. "1. Is weight gain......
» 25/03/2008 1:51:04 PM Steven, Why I don't see the school curriculum idea as negatively as you is because I beli.....
» 25/03/2008 11:24:09 AM Thank you TRTL for supporting Robert. It does you credit. I didn't want to say it before a.....
» 25/03/2008 10:40:19 AM Robert, “Fractelle, I think that you are being rather unfair to the christain church hold.....
» 20/03/2008 4:01:17 PM In that case Vanilla (and Bugsy) I'm not sure. I presume they don't as an organisation. I .....
» 20/03/2008 1:30:53 PM "All I see you've done is changed the argument from whether god exists, into who crea.....
» 20/03/2008 1:19:14 PM Vanilla, mjpb: "I believe science and religious beliefs are generally compatible and.....
» 20/03/2008 12:10:18 PM ”You could have entered the discussion by stating why you believe that formal religious do.....
» 20/03/2008 12:06:53 PM Sorry again Fractelle honest mistake. When you said: “To the intelligent and curious mind.....
» 20/03/2008 10:46:14 AM Whitty, "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than y.....
» 19/03/2008 5:27:08 PM TurnRightThenLeft, Your experiment didn't work but that doesn't mean you are wrong about .....
» 19/03/2008 4:11:02 PM There has been some inappropriate comparisons in here as I have pointed out. Having done s.....
» 19/03/2008 1:02:37 PM Robert, "Whilst the christains on this thread seem to have been willing to see the w.....
» 19/03/2008 12:58:44 PM Your are welcome Fractelle although I missed it. Anyways sorry to try that in the forum t.....
» 18/03/2008 1:40:57 PM TurnRightThenLeft, I suspect that moderate Muslims do get a bad rap. However your approac.....
» 18/03/2008 10:07:15 AM "Often in situations of long term conflict a useful tool is to avoid interpreting the.....
» 18/03/2008 9:45:42 AM Ladies and gentlemen, An awesome opportunity may present itself. For those who don't kno.....
» 17/03/2008 1:32:11 PM Boazy, Why do you invite comments like this: “Fractelle! Have you noticed that every-tim.....
» 17/03/2008 1:28:14 PM Fractelle, The last thing I want to do is to tap on this hornets nest of atheism having s.....
» 14/03/2008 3:43:09 PM Bugsy, You recently pointed out something I hadn't addressed. There is something else. &.....
» 14/03/2008 2:07:32 PM Can I cheat with China? I notice in these forums atheists consider any atheist assertion i.....
» 14/03/2008 1:41:18 PM "a couple of points; 1) you still haven't clearly outlined where the previous contri.....
» 13/03/2008 12:07:11 PM Bugsy, You are non committal even with the term "modern science". I am happy to.....
» 12/03/2008 12:10:22 PM I googled this early on in the discussion and was planning on using it to better express s.....
» 12/03/2008 11:53:38 AM CJ Morgan, But injuring people is already prohibited... It seems to just add to the penal.....
» 12/03/2008 10:43:20 AM “bodily injury to any person or, through the use of fire, a firearm, or an explosive or in.....
» 12/03/2008 10:01:57 AM gz, CJ's infantile behaviour is just a manifestation of his nasty personality rather than.....
» 11/03/2008 3:11:13 PM challenging someone I really need to proof read first and post later......
» 11/03/2008 3:10:10 PM I mean what is the point of challenging some to prove something to you that you already ag.....
» 11/03/2008 11:23:38 AM I guess I don't learn but here goes... Mr Right, "Boaz I am sure people have told y.....
» 11/03/2008 9:59:43 AM Bugsy, Sorry I don’t speak much Latin. For those in a similar boat that don’t have the ti.....
» 10/03/2008 4:57:25 PM Bugsy, Then hopefully I’m not doing that. Whether or not Christian thought was affected b.....
» 10/03/2008 4:08:03 PM Celivia, Yes to alot of that. Obviously you are not a Christian and have different outloo.....
» 10/03/2008 10:04:04 AM Dickie, No I don’t believe Christians can ignore that. That doesn’t mean we will ever tre.....
» 7/03/2008 1:48:23 PM Pericles, "But unless you are able to get past this barrier of "I'm right, he's.....
» 7/03/2008 1:10:12 PM CJ, “The noodle analogy is pure sophistry. Why does the Flying Spaghetti Monster spring .....
» 7/03/2008 9:05:23 AM Fractelle, I’m starting to wonder if the issue is the history I point to or the fact that.....
» 6/03/2008 2:17:45 PM “… religious interference ...” What was the interference with science between Gallileo an.....
» 6/03/2008 12:41:10 PM Dickie, I cited Descartes for his science and how Christianity drove his approach rather .....
» 6/03/2008 12:15:42 PM Dickie, Absolutely correct about Descartes stomach turning mechanical reaction stuff. I c.....
» 5/03/2008 4:50:47 PM Vanilla, If that is a chip on your shoulder (cf. disingenuousness) then please remove it .....
» 5/03/2008 11:39:52 AM I'll discriminate between what is or isn't science to help clarify. Science is not Aristot.....
» 5/03/2008 8:46:11 AM Vanilla, What you probably should ask yourself is why the pop culture powers haven't reve.....
» 4/03/2008 3:29:11 PM Hi Fractelle, "Well, I have to confess I am having trouble understanding you." .....
» 4/03/2008 1:34:25 PM Hi Vanilla, Thanks for taking an interest in my reasons for believing. "What are th.....
» 4/03/2008 11:19:19 AM If there is still a place in this forum to address the original topic... I believe in God.....
» 3/03/2008 12:36:51 PM Roch, “mjpb – with respect - Whether a person is theist, agnostic, atheist, anti-theist o.....
» 3/03/2008 12:25:38 PM Fractelle, I felt you are now missing something I value. I apologise if you found that co.....
» 28/02/2008 11:05:18 AM Col, Danielle, Fractelle, and JR have said everything that presently needs to be said so .....
» 28/02/2008 10:54:07 AM Roch, I didn’t mean you. I meant those who answer atheists with scriptures as if atheists.....
» 25/02/2008 1:00:30 PM JR, If you are going to add things like that in brackets (thus enabling the use of my obs.....
» 25/02/2008 12:22:46 PM Fractelle, "OK, Roch, YOU believe in all this, but there is no point quoting from st.....
» 25/02/2008 11:43:24 AM What a coincidence that someone who can afford to put away $1,000 per month (with 'sacrifi.....
» 20/02/2008 3:02:13 PM "The religios say they want equal time for their crackpottery. Maybe we should give.....
» 31/01/2008 5:44:20 PM Robert, Thank you for taking the time to find the studies. It seems to stand to reason t.....
» 11/01/2008 2:06:34 PM Botheration, “Well done for calling me on it. “ You are welcome and I’m impressed that y.....
» 10/01/2008 3:19:38 PM Botheration, This thread still going... ”If you're suggesting that adults want to lower .....
» 20/12/2007 9:02:50 AM Ciao Jpw2040. None of my business but I wonder who you are frying and where. I suspect you.....
» 19/12/2007 5:04:22 PM Robert, Jack’s quote: “Great link, jpw2040. Kind of like saying that Leftism is a consequ.....
» 19/12/2007 4:46:23 PM Jpw2040, I thank you for the definition and now I’d like to dispute its merit. You didn’t.....
» 18/12/2007 11:27:48 AM Jack the Lad, "How about Pythagoras as an example of pre-Christian scientists?".....
» 18/12/2007 10:49:06 AM Jpw2040, "...You keep reminding us that I referred to you as neanderthal..." N.....
» 17/12/2007 11:35:01 AM “OK, since you insist…” You don’t want a Neanderthal feeling smugly superior do you? You,.....
» 17/12/2007 10:47:48 AM Philo, If you wouldn't mind. Westy, Good to see you again. I haven't enjoyed your lovea.....
» 15/12/2007 6:05:34 AM "I’ve made it abundantly clear what I think of your rhetorical tactics. I don’t see a.....
» 14/12/2007 2:06:39 PM 2. (continued) Note that discoveries that have improved our understanding have not remove.....
» 14/12/2007 1:56:02 PM Jack the Lad, I note that I am a Christian. It is unclear whether or not you realize that.....
» 14/12/2007 11:05:09 AM Jpw2040, Sorry but can you please type more slowly. I don't know how chimpanzees are copi.....
» 13/12/2007 3:09:53 PM Wizofaus, "Jack, you go argue with some of the most intelligent minds on the planet .....
» 12/12/2007 3:14:41 PM CJ, I'll try to just bite my tongue......
» 12/12/2007 2:53:22 PM Will you guys start speaking the same language so your dialogue has purpose. Philo, I'd .....
» 12/12/2007 12:23:09 PM Belly, I have nothing much to add except my disgust that this happened. Thank you for sta.....
» 11/12/2007 1:41:56 PM Perhaps this can be resolved to mutual satisfaction without any more subtle hints from Jpw.....
» 11/12/2007 10:42:30 AM Jpw2040, Again excuse my neanderthal slowness but there are three things I need explained.....
» 10/12/2007 2:40:01 PM Sorry Jpw2040 I guess as a neanderthal it takes me a while to catch on. "Cheering on&.....
» 10/12/2007 11:38:56 AM Philo, I know what social intelligence is but I am not clear on what you mean or at least.....
» 10/12/2007 9:57:54 AM Philo, I read a book review of a book authored by a man claiming a same sex attraction. F.....
» 7/12/2007 4:24:01 PM Turn Right Then Left, "Heck, pope Pius II fathered two illegitimate children." .....
» 7/12/2007 8:36:00 AM Jpw2040, As you well know that isn't exactly what I meant by the way you were going. You .....
» 6/12/2007 5:01:09 PM Jpw2040, Feeling good too! Like I said in the last post I sincerely wish you had stopped .....
» 6/12/2007 1:03:33 PM Robert, Thanks. I suspect that if CJ’s wife read his posts she wouldn’t be his wife so I .....
» 6/12/2007 9:52:21 AM Fester, As someone who was bottle fed but had plenty of fluoride I am biased. Every time .....
» 5/12/2007 5:37:10 PM jpw2040, I'm happy to call it a day if you are finished with me........
» 5/12/2007 5:17:32 PM Jack the Lad, Robert is normally really respectful and friendly. Basically the opposite o.....
» 5/12/2007 12:55:36 PM AJD responded with the claim: "mjpb uses the old christian lie of trying to equate h.....
» 5/12/2007 12:55:12 PM Certainly Jw2040. Like yourself the neanderthal is detecting all manner of patterns. &quo.....
» 4/12/2007 3:22:27 PM Jack the Lad, I was surprised at how that spiced things up. I thought only CJ would hate .....
» 4/12/2007 2:17:15 PM J Bennett, They say fools rush in where angels fear to tread… I’m no angel but… CJ, I’m.....
» 3/12/2007 11:28:53 AM I pointed out to Robert that I have seen attempts in olo to brand Christians as paedophile.....
» 3/12/2007 11:28:00 AM ”vilification of christians in this discussion is non-existent. “ I guess if you think th.....
» 2/12/2007 6:15:47 AM Robert, Before replying to the comments you directed at me I'll just comment on the homop.....
» 30/11/2007 4:07:19 PM "mjpb, just which posters do you think are "homosexual activists"? I've ha.....
» 30/11/2007 1:01:23 PM Which musing do you want me to explain. They relate to different posts and different issue.....
» 30/11/2007 12:17:38 PM In response to my earlier question (“was it malice or carelessness?”) you’ve pretty well r.....
» 30/11/2007 12:17:10 PM “...The pejorative part of the term “homosexual activist” is “activist,” which I guess mea.....
» 29/11/2007 11:12:46 AM CJ, "However Jw2040 clearly believes in making changes ..." Should read: Howe.....
» 29/11/2007 11:07:52 AM "Once again - Thanks to everyone for your comments, and for answering the legal quest.....
» 29/11/2007 10:23:09 AM Jw2040, Sorry for the delayed response. I tried to reply yesterday but didn't have time t.....
» 29/11/2007 10:20:56 AM Robert, Thank you for the correction but as you can see Jw2040 was fully informed in spit.....
» 27/11/2007 4:39:33 PM Foxy, I think Robert has covered something reasonably well and that is a nutshell summary.....
» 20/11/2007 8:32:46 AM Why do you suppose it is hard wired? Divine gift to help us come to the truth? A civilizin.....
» 20/11/2007 8:24:35 AM Boazy, I am often surprised as to when you 'choose' to disappear from threads. It is usua.....
» 15/11/2007 11:58:53 AM Jack, I have never heard of any association between Martin Luther King and communism. Ind.....
» 14/11/2007 12:16:25 PM CJ, Thank you for the compliment but when you opined "...utilise them in exercises o.....
» 12/11/2007 11:27:34 AM CJ, I'm cutting this down from 463 words by prioritising but am happy to revisit the bits.....
» 9/11/2007 12:41:14 PM "Yet another teenager today tried to awaken a numb world with the sacrifice of himsel.....
» 9/11/2007 9:47:30 AM "How do you figure that?" You exhibit symptoms of putting blind faith in politi.....
» 9/11/2007 9:11:31 AM Bugsy, Sorry didn’t mean to go over your head. My analogy is probably too unsubtle to pro.....
» 8/11/2007 3:35:04 PM JR, Are you saying that you think that Runner has attacked you personally? I missed it – .....
» 8/11/2007 10:10:51 AM Johnny, Perhaps you are right but I still believe it was sloppy because odds are Runner w.....
» 7/11/2007 2:18:50 PM "And if these 20% of football players that regularly played wanted to change the laws.....
» 7/11/2007 1:27:52 PM Johnny Rotten, I'm surprised that you criticise runner for being sloppy in the way he exp.....
» 7/11/2007 1:18:15 PM So CJ..., If in a context that most people were statistically football players and I was .....
» 5/11/2007 11:37:49 AM "Reality is you would have no problems in agreeing with me some Gods never existed is.....
» 2/11/2007 8:53:54 AM C'mon Q & A. I am reluctant to buy in because of the political ramifications. I'd also rat.....
» 29/10/2007 2:09:01 PM How about I just introduce some irony? http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/23410/Eight-de.....
» 24/10/2007 12:05:36 PM Bugsy, I was recently listening to a radio program where one of the jocks admitted arguin.....
» 23/10/2007 12:44:45 PM Wow. While people were pursuing the witchcraft angle some very good pr for homosexual tole.....
» 23/10/2007 11:58:35 AM Bugsy, "mjpb, please do not associate your failure as a communicator on others ".....
» 23/10/2007 11:01:17 AM Bek, This raises a few issues: 1. Note Bronwyn’s points for the problems and note that m.....
» 22/10/2007 8:53:43 AM I believe that a significant reason Bugsy struggled with my comments directed to you was t.....
» 22/10/2007 7:10:18 AM Belly, I still don't think that weighing up the merit of nothing compared to nothing is a.....
» 19/10/2007 10:35:05 AM Steel, Don’t feel ignored. Even though you actually put forward a coherent argument rathe.....
» 19/10/2007 8:16:08 AM Belly, That could go in a number of different directions. However saying that God is for .....
» 18/10/2007 1:51:15 PM PS. Another comment on the "young boys" as they are described by the journalist......
» 18/10/2007 1:46:42 PM My experience at child care centres is the same as Roberts. Things seem highly variable. .....
» 12/10/2007 9:50:09 AM “mjpb come in at any time, in real life I think you and I could get along well.” Thank yo.....
» 11/10/2007 4:33:22 PM I did some googling. There doesn't appear to be an official Catholic stance on the HP issu.....
» 11/10/2007 4:18:44 PM If the Catholic Church supports Potter then the Pope should stop writing books that knock .....
» 11/10/2007 10:18:38 AM "Looks to me as though Mr. Pell has crossed the valley to set up his tent in satans c.....
» 11/10/2007 10:01:21 AM You are addressing Boazy but it is a public forum so I'll leave questions to him but comme.....
» 10/10/2007 1:19:06 PM "If God does not unite all mankind why?" Because God gave humankind free choice.....
» 9/10/2007 7:47:27 AM "Why are we divided by those different Gods?" Because we are human. God just gi.....
» 8/10/2007 12:47:18 PM I note two issues: 1. People should not rely upon the media for their information because.....
» 3/10/2007 4:29:27 PM Dickie, Don’t be … um … never mind. Your pedantic approach may be correct if modern usag.....
» 3/10/2007 11:40:16 AM Belly, ”I fight any type of unfounded bigotry always.” I think I’ve seen that. ”…eviden.....
» 3/10/2007 11:29:52 AM Pericles, ”>>I can point to a God who holds that all humans are equal... The same G.....
» 2/10/2007 11:57:14 AM “Find me a God. single one that claims every one is equal, no one lessor , and while not b.....
» 1/10/2007 12:29:57 PM Belly, To correct the previous comment. You don't take offence but you assume it is direc.....
» 1/10/2007 8:44:38 AM Belly, If you mean the obvious can't a distinction be drawn between the writings of a sci.....
» 28/09/2007 12:03:26 PM Pericles, “If I were to tell you that the earth was at the centre of the universe, you wo.....
» 27/09/2007 11:49:58 AM Many a true word said in jest... "Sheesh, so thats what all those priests, ministers.....
» 27/09/2007 11:28:01 AM Spanky, Clearly there has been a shift in attitude toward marital vows. I suspect this co.....
» 27/09/2007 10:10:28 AM I guess when they stop paying so much money to major media corporations. Then the media wo.....
» 24/09/2007 4:11:23 PM Belly, “mjpb it is true that many different religions try to enforce their views on other.....
» 24/09/2007 8:14:13 AM “MJBP.. Jesus more than any other condemns mistreatment of children by so called Christian.....
» 22/09/2007 7:17:42 AM Belly, “Jim and I clash often yet we both think we want a better life for Aboriginals.” .....
» 21/09/2007 4:19:39 PM Belly, I may not be invited but I'll need to sit somewhere since you are telling me that .....
» 21/09/2007 10:07:18 AM KJ, Re: who would know? I think a reasonable inference can be made from the Bible and Ch.....
» 21/09/2007 8:36:38 AM Wobbles, “However I put this down to their innate personal nature rather than their readi.....
» 20/09/2007 10:35:46 AM Cakers thanx for the statistical perspective and education. Belly, “The Christian Bible .....
» 19/09/2007 10:44:30 AM Spanky, You make a lot of good points for the Christian religion. I suspect the casual cl.....
» 18/09/2007 4:02:57 PM "I do not scoff at your views ..." Sorry for the misunderstanding. I actually t.....
» 18/09/2007 1:42:10 PM "...it seems Christianity in this country is a bit part time for most. That the commi.....
» 18/09/2007 9:57:11 AM Pericles, “It would make absolutely no sense whatsoever if a family, ... were to invent t.....
» 17/09/2007 7:57:09 AM Palimpest, “We do create our gods, but that doesn't invalidate the possibility of a Supre.....
» 16/09/2007 6:39:48 AM Boazy, "CONSTANTINE.. started the problem of 'manipulation of the masses'.... by leg.....
» 14/09/2007 12:36:42 PM "Each book of God any God informs us if we only obey we get life forever, to do what?.....
» 14/09/2007 12:33:43 PM Belly, "The fact some, once most religions can call for my death because I do not be.....
» 5/09/2007 12:34:33 PM Country Gal, "Actually I thought it was more to do with helping fulfil the prophecy .....
» 4/09/2007 10:16:57 AM Considering water covers 2/3 of the planet and is found in every cloud floating by I suspe.....
» 27/08/2007 11:23:00 AM At least noone has suggested that we be stopped from using knives... I don't know the sta.....
» 27/08/2007 10:22:56 AM Pericles, Thanks for answering. David, "In fact, the RC Church was heavily involve.....
» 24/08/2007 11:53:57 AM Hi Pericles, "My point still stands." The point relates to the reason provided.....
» 17/08/2007 11:06:47 AM Dave, "Philo stated: “Christians are taught that all life in all stages is sacred.” .....
» 15/08/2007 12:33:22 PM Callie, "Just wondering...because once a "christian" friend of mine said t.....
» 15/08/2007 12:13:49 PM AFOAI, If hypothetically in both cases the Christian value thing is flaunted for politica.....
» 13/08/2007 11:39:40 AM Celivia, The possibility of the siblings inbreeding exists. However certainly in Queensla.....
» 9/08/2007 9:47:32 AM Boazy, I am sure there are sound theological reasons for eschewing the sperm donor approa.....
» 2/08/2007 11:46:49 AM Maybe it is dissatisfaction with sex... ( ; Saudi Arabian women claim their men are best......
» 4/07/2007 3:26:23 PM Zygote, I am glad you have raised the issue. It is about time. Firstly, your key issue i.....
» 2/07/2007 2:49:46 PM Boazy, You wrote: "It is unthinkable, that given the fulfillment of the New Covenan.....
» 20/06/2007 4:42:37 PM Ludwig, I wanted to say yesterday that I was impressed with the way you understood that i.....
» 19/06/2007 2:33:44 PM Ludwig, That does seem to be an issue for the prosecution albeit worded to suit prosecuti.....
» 19/06/2007 9:01:52 AM Did you hear about how the jury asked the judge why Roy Bramwell wasn't called? Their dut.....
» 18/06/2007 12:29:35 PM Ludwig, I wouldn't call that half the story but you are entitled to your opinion. And wha.....
» 18/06/2007 11:55:11 AM It depends on your perception. I think it is $500 odd dollars plus lawyer cost if you use .....
» 15/06/2007 9:59:28 AM Noone else is having a go so I will give a view off the top of my head that you can take w.....
» 14/06/2007 5:32:35 PM Yes Runner has a point Chelle. The issues you raise are obviously controversial but you do.....
» 14/06/2007 5:16:47 PM Divorce is easy to obtain in Australia. It simply requires that the marriage is irretrieva.....
» 14/06/2007 10:42:34 AM The trial has got off to an interesting start. According to ABC News prosecution witness .....
» 12/06/2007 4:44:52 PM I suggest "no" if you mean usurping the role of other participants. Judges can .....
» 22/05/2007 11:09:15 AM Sharkfin, A confessed terrorist becoming a national hero and getting a wonderful expensiv.....
» 22/05/2007 8:58:01 AM Apparently last year our "no gay marriage" PM made unpublicised changes to the M.....
» 30/04/2007 12:31:58 PM "I’m not passing judgement on his guilt or innocence," But you do think that: &.....
» 27/04/2007 10:16:22 AM The following concerning Chris Hurley was published in a letter to the editor in the Austr.....
» 26/04/2007 9:48:30 AM Ludwig, “The height of irrelevance and distraction is smoke screen ...” I concede that I.....
» 24/04/2007 3:31:25 PM I really wish that it would concern you that the media make the DPP look like they erred a.....
» 24/04/2007 12:22:32 PM "Maybe you should ask the Police officer or his lawyer why the comments about being h.....
» 24/04/2007 9:50:52 AM You recall correctly about Beattie but it was totally improper to politically interfere wi.....
» 23/04/2007 2:02:03 PM ” ...ONLY thing that matters...” The context indicated that DPP made their decision carefu.....
» 23/04/2007 9:41:54 AM ““Balanced reporting wouldn't stir people up.” ”O dear. This is another rather unbelievab.....
» 19/04/2007 4:21:14 PM BTW It was good money for his legal skills and made him look good but Street should have t.....
» 19/04/2007 10:20:45 AM ”How ... could it have been reported in ...a balanced fashion without people ... strongly .....
» 18/04/2007 10:50:58 AM Here here Graham. A study on allegations of clerical sexual abuse of children sent a surv.....
» 17/04/2007 11:43:39 AM “I observe that you are willing to research this media angle in quite some detail and post.....
» 16/04/2007 10:14:47 AM In the last paragraph I meant to say that those two investigations had the appearance of a.....
» 16/04/2007 10:10:21 AM "Confidence in the legal system within the community is of paramount importance.".....
» 13/04/2007 2:22:48 PM "...Confidence in the courts certainly appears to be better than in any other method .....
» 13/04/2007 9:59:11 AM There are certainly different definitions. My experience has been that 'do gooder' is a t.....
» 11/04/2007 5:28:58 PM "And the fact that Street found ...indicates that there is sufficient evidence.".....
» 10/04/2007 9:18:51 AM "We aren’t going to get past ..." True but will either of us drop it? ( : &quo.....
» 5/04/2007 11:24:55 AM Ludwig, ”..The circumstances of Hurley’s case are extra ordinary. He certainly hasn’t bee.....
» 5/04/2007 11:22:50 AM “This brings us into agreement. Yahoo!! “ I really regret using the word “absolutely”. ”.....
» 3/04/2007 10:44:55 AM “I am astounded by this..." Ok try substituting "yes" instead of "abs.....
» 2/04/2007 4:42:55 PM “If the tables had been turned, ...” Hopefully DPP wouldn’t stoop to doing that. A point .....
» 30/03/2007 3:08:37 PM R, “...my first "scuffle" at ... 17 was with two policemen. I'm Aboriginal, nee.....
» 29/03/2007 4:09:20 PM “Mjpb, so you think that the CJC appraisal, which found very strong reasons to try Hurley .....
» 28/03/2007 3:56:13 PM continuation ”...I have a pretty good idea of the case. How could anyone who is intereste.....
» 28/03/2007 3:52:14 PM Rainier & Ludwig, “It was a one-off extraordinary circumstance.” Many extraordinary case.....
» 27/03/2007 10:08:39 AM ”We should definitely not pre-empt a court judgement by not committing someone to trial wh.....
» 27/03/2007 10:07:43 AM “It is crystal clear to me that the circumstances would warrant a trial, no matter who was.....
» 27/03/2007 9:27:49 AM “http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/biz/trafficoperations/traffic/limits.htm” I read this site when .....
» 25/03/2007 9:50:58 PM No problem Ludwig and I’ll comment on it again in case it helps. ”; the police need to be.....
» 22/03/2007 12:33:38 PM “ ‘the police need to be as accountable ..." ”MIGHT be relevant?? …??” The issue is.....
» 21/03/2007 11:27:27 AM Ludwig, Sorry if I was too short with you yesterday. A human being is involved so I felt .....
» 20/03/2007 11:22:37 AM "Mjpb, we are obviously going to get nowhere in this discussion." Well at leas.....
» 16/03/2007 3:55:25 PM Ludwig, ”My goodness! ...is comparable ... is it?” I chose it as an extreme example to s.....
» 15/03/2007 3:51:05 PM Ludwig, “The PU should surely have upheld the principle that Hurley needed to be tried. T.....
» 14/03/2007 12:55:15 PM "I think that the fact that Mulrunji ended up dead from horrific injuries while in th.....
» 13/03/2007 9:57:43 AM Aka, “.. what if a jury of his peers finds he is guilty?” He’d be a cop in jail for a lo.....
» 12/03/2007 1:28:58 PM "The facts are that the Coroner and the DPP findings were totally opposite." Im.....
» 12/03/2007 9:47:29 AM JamesH, Get your hand off it! Expert opinion said the fall could cause that damage but yo.....
» 12/03/2007 9:43:19 AM sorry backspaced too far. wrong thread.....
» 12/03/2007 9:41:25 AM JamesH, Get your hand off it! Expert opinion said the fall could cause that damage but yo.....
» 7/03/2007 1:52:05 PM Here here mylakhrion, What you say is common sense and based on personal experience. Howe.....
» 6/03/2007 11:46:36 AM "Most cases of FGM have nothing to do with the labia and only deal with the clitoris......
» 6/03/2007 11:27:52 AM So where is Mirko?.....
» 5/03/2007 10:10:25 AM Darwin, I don't know where to go with this. I know what Rainier has posted. I know what I.....
» 5/03/2007 9:38:42 AM Correction: For trivia buffs: In cold countries circumcision seems to be next to useless .....
» 5/03/2007 9:34:07 AM Tragically comparisons with male circumcision trivialise female genital mutilation and mak.....
» 28/02/2007 3:24:30 PM Cevilia, In arguing for legalising it someone above compared it with food allergies. Henc.....
» 26/02/2007 11:26:10 AM I find comparisons with food allergies surprising. You discover you have a food allergy a.....
» 21/02/2007 1:09:32 PM Darwin, Re: Camera. You originally said: “…turned off just before they entered and turne.....
» 20/02/2007 9:08:46 AM fluff, Kirby wasn't involved. Are you thinking of Street who's integrity I am not questio.....
» 16/02/2007 12:28:42 PM Darwin, You raise other issues and I don't want to prolong them because I believe that Hu.....
» 15/02/2007 8:13:35 AM Young Dan, You would think a coroner in those circumstances should have felt compelled to.....
» 13/02/2007 11:12:44 AM John, As regards the rioting I hope this doesn't sound too pedantic but ... I don't belie.....
» 12/02/2007 10:58:02 AM Aka, Re: different treatment Mulrunji's tragic death demands that action be taken to pr.....
» 12/02/2007 9:36:05 AM Rainier, The selectivity is noticeable. Actually it seems to get worse for QPU if the rum.....
» 9/02/2007 2:32:01 PM It isn’t about immunity from prosecution. It is about different treatment of someone in th.....
» 7/02/2007 3:57:57 PM Darwinboy, "You appear to have me confused with Darwin so your comments don't apply .....
» 7/02/2007 3:19:54 PM "Why or how could their objections not be interpreted as quite sinister?" Read .....
» 7/02/2007 3:12:15 PM Aka, "But they seem to be objecting to their member facing charges over a very suspi.....
» 7/02/2007 3:00:15 PM Darwinboy, If the video camera thing were true it would be on the front page of the Couri.....
» 6/02/2007 2:44:46 PM Darwinboy, He was in an unenviable position particularly if there is anything in the cons.....
» 6/02/2007 1:26:16 PM Saint, There was a liaison officer. If you look at news reports regarding the findings o.....
» 30/01/2007 1:04:39 PM Runner, Philo, HW. I'd love to get your emails. However I can understand if you wouldn't w.....
» 30/01/2007 11:35:46 AM Proverbs I'd love to get your email but I can understand if you wouldn't want to publish i.....
» 30/01/2007 11:28:28 AM w, Sometimes picky points can be the hardest to grasp... Thank you for the information. .....
» 29/01/2007 4:12:47 PM Proverbs, Westy habitually makes those posts. He will say worse if you converse with him......
» 29/01/2007 10:39:23 AM W, It has been a while. A belated happy new year to you. Thanks for posting the link. I h.....
» 25/01/2007 10:58:15 AM I have heard about the illegality of Christianity in Saudi Arabia. That surprised me as I .....
» 24/01/2007 11:08:49 AM The Buddhists of Burma may want to bump off the baptized according to a recent article. B.....
» 2/01/2007 10:51:42 AM Westy, Sorry if I wielded too blunt an instrument but you do make 'over the top comments'.....
» 2/01/2007 10:26:07 AM Westy that would not be appropriate. There is an unresolved controversy between scientists.....
» 2/01/2007 9:21:57 AM LOL Good one Renee! It has often been speculated that Westy had a problem in his childhood.....
» 2/01/2007 8:55:57 AM Thank you Sells for such a controversial article that is of interest to so many people. Yo.....
» 2/01/2007 8:38:22 AM I can't help wondering if he will be considered a matryr by some extremist group or anothe.....
» 17/11/2006 1:45:43 PM Hi Rex thank you very much. I'd suggest not letting down the guard with media reports eve.....
» 16/11/2006 9:45:27 AM Rex, "The known circumstances/evidence of the crashes frequently positively identifi.....
» 16/11/2006 9:43:43 AM Rex, "The known circumstances/evidence of the crashes frequently positively identifi.....
» 16/11/2006 9:20:07 AM And if you do decide to hang around you'll have to get used to Westy's comments. Westy has.....
» 10/11/2006 12:30:13 PM Braindrain, Please answer this question: "By the fourth century the Romans who cruc.....
» 9/11/2006 1:06:47 PM Braindrain "I believe he is doing more of the devil’s work than he is of Christ’s t.....
» 8/11/2006 1:00:28 PM Spider, Thank you for the reply. I have nothing to add to what people have already said. .....
» 7/11/2006 10:29:46 AM Braindrain, Just so you don't misinterpret my comments ... there seems to be some George .....
» 7/11/2006 9:36:10 AM Rainier, “… employing someone to talk to their kids about enviromentalism, ... is and woul.....
» 6/11/2006 8:13:53 AM Ludwig, “You seem to forget that 'good' people do generally respect and adhere to the law.....
» 2/11/2006 2:13:28 PM Westy, Perhaps your hostility is due to some misconceptions about Christians. I might be .....
» 2/11/2006 1:38:59 PM Because it is Australia. It is one of our unique features like kangaroos to have a democra.....
» 2/11/2006 1:36:08 PM "Indeed, there is much evidence to support the historical fact that the Arabic type C.....
» 1/11/2006 3:19:30 PM “You completely failed to address Rob and others' concerns with your previous email.” Rob.....
» 1/11/2006 2:16:00 PM West, I believe homosexuals are smarter. In any event they are in a different ballpark to.....
» 1/11/2006 12:17:24 PM W, "To work out what you meant ... I had to head off to another discussion..." .....
» 31/10/2006 12:16:16 PM w, Your serious question was: “I'm clearly not as 'au fait' with these issues as you are.....
» 31/10/2006 11:47:55 AM SF, Homosexuals do have values on many different things. However you could easily guess w.....
» 31/10/2006 10:07:04 AM Snout & CJ, I don't mind the question at all as I deliberately stopped short. But in the .....
» 30/10/2006 10:34:09 AM Robert, "Ok.. I book your 9 yr old daughter to add to my 50 yr old wife." I re.....
» 30/10/2006 9:56:56 AM Snout, It was such an extreme incident that it was reported at least across the country. .....
» 30/10/2006 8:58:58 AM “…he never angrily says that Christians are obsessed with homosexuals.” "Probably be.....
» 27/10/2006 12:42:20 PM West, Stop being so paranoid I don't hate homosexuals - although I'm willing to make exce.....
» 27/10/2006 11:51:23 AM Rob, "One problem is that if a fundy couple moves in next door, and I'm teaching my .....
» 27/10/2006 11:35:22 AM Ludwig, I went to the other forum and the first things that caught my eye were these comm.....
» 27/10/2006 9:57:32 AM Snout, “I have to say I’m inclined to agree with you, Leigh: these arguments do tend to g.....
» 27/10/2006 9:41:27 AM West, The other issue is whether a lab assistance who knew an abusive amoeba was insultin.....
» 26/10/2006 12:55:32 PM “The Bible clearly and unambiguously condemns homosexual behavior/acts, as much as incest .....
» 26/10/2006 12:33:20 PM Ludwig, The slogan is obviously approved of by the government. Reality is that if any pol.....
» 26/10/2006 11:27:32 AM “I think you’re confusing a few issues ...”” The key thing I wanted to put forward prior .....
» 25/10/2006 2:16:11 PM "So you are happy with the schizophrenic approach to the law: we make laws….. and the.....
» 25/10/2006 11:53:14 AM Bosie, "For example, if the issue was accomodation and a neighbour objected to a hom.....
» 25/10/2006 11:12:15 AM w, "It’s possible to love left-handed people while despising left-handed behaviour. .....
» 25/10/2006 10:43:53 AM I agree completely with the article or at least what I read when I skimmed through it. It.....
» 24/10/2006 9:15:50 AM “I don’t know how you can say this! Speed was no doubt a factor in many of the cases you i.....
» 24/10/2006 8:51:41 AM Excuse my ignorance but if cost is such a limitation and the technology so expensive is th.....
» 24/10/2006 8:45:12 AM "Have you listened to federal parliament lately? Pea brain was an apt description for.....
» 23/10/2006 3:21:53 PM Saint Fletcher, Scary stuff! Looks like people who consider themselves Christians aren't .....
» 23/10/2006 12:31:18 PM Ludwig, So why do you pick that offence when it is a safety law and 3% tolerance defeats .....
» 23/10/2006 9:38:10 AM Quiggley, "I don't believe that anyone should be given a ticket for exceeding the sp.....
» 23/10/2006 9:10:29 AM HL, Just in case you should keep reading... As an Australian I again want to ensure that.....
» 23/10/2006 8:45:06 AM W, Thank you for your reply and your response to T800 and West – even if the latter was a.....
» 20/10/2006 1:59:13 PM W, I don’t think you do. But I can empathise with the reaction. The practical effect is .....
» 20/10/2006 11:49:47 AM West, “Mjpb what planet are you on?...” If you substitute "African-American" f.....
» 20/10/2006 10:04:07 AM SPECS camera UK motorists do not need to fear the latest in speed camera technology as gov.....
» 20/10/2006 8:55:33 AM Someone else has started a thread complaining specifically about policing. I notice that t.....
» 20/10/2006 8:36:19 AM Re: tailgating. "...But if they pull over or change lanes to let the mongrels throu.....
» 19/10/2006 1:29:20 PM West, Of course you don’t want Christianity banned. You enjoy vilifying Christians far to.....
» 19/10/2006 9:17:56 AM "Mjpb, I hope you can appreciate now why I feel a certain level of disgust about the .....
» 18/10/2006 1:55:35 PM I think you would find that while some technicalities are left alone police do balance the.....
» 18/10/2006 1:31:18 PM "However the reason this happens is because you and others think that one rule for st.....
» 18/10/2006 1:17:40 PM W, Doesn't homophobia mean fear of homosexuals? If you think someone is scared why aren't.....
» 17/10/2006 8:27:37 AM "My reading of this article wasn't that jesus was immoral (title not withstanding) bu.....
» 16/10/2006 2:16:17 PM Robert, You accuse HL of "continuing to insist ...". Skimming through the relev.....
» 16/10/2006 2:05:47 PM I’d be content if I just make the point that prostitution isn’t hell in America and heaven.....
» 16/10/2006 1:18:52 PM I believe that Jesus (while not the intended target) is horribly misrepresented. Neverthel.....
» 16/10/2006 8:51:21 AM Pisces, Yes I think the comments are fair! In response to the allegation that farmers cl.....
» 13/10/2006 1:42:42 PM "Mmmm now you’ve lost me. Facilitating significant crime??" Police can't be eve.....
» 13/10/2006 1:11:03 PM "mjpb..that horse story, hilariuos...are you sure that horse really planned it that w.....
» 12/10/2006 3:32:15 PM "less than polite or decent to other people... Let’s face it, police are very often n.....
» 12/10/2006 3:30:33 PM "Four posts actually…." My mistake. "Please see my 104 posts under ‘Puttin.....
» 11/10/2006 12:52:21 PM "...legislation that allows for a 10% leeway... (How come the Victorian police/govern.....
» 11/10/2006 12:40:29 PM Ludwig, Three posts. I know the word limit is tough but you sure are enthusiastic. ".....
» 11/10/2006 9:12:19 AM logic, Whilst I am in general agreement with what you say I suspect that you might be rea.....
» 10/10/2006 2:10:15 PM "happy to say..." Good to hear. So many people do these days. I'd suggest the .....
» 10/10/2006 8:16:59 AM Taurus, The name of the thread is "do animals feel pain - what are the pain indicato.....
» 5/10/2006 4:28:23 PM "I don't criticise people ..." Do you mind if I ask why you mentioned that? I'm.....
» 5/10/2006 10:42:51 AM Wayne, I don't find your argument compelling when there has been a much more extensive tr.....
» 4/10/2006 10:26:59 AM Wow! That reminds me of Nicola Tesla's oft quoted comment "They said it couldn't be d.....
» 4/10/2006 9:47:13 AM Continued. I recall a guy I once talked to speculating that the reason prostitutes gravit.....
» 4/10/2006 9:45:22 AM Hawaiilawyer, For the record I am also in Australia and things aren't a total Utopia for .....
» 2/10/2006 2:15:29 PM Thanks for your most recent reply, "In actual fact, I don't think pornography increa.....
» 2/10/2006 11:02:53 AM Ludwig, Police need to be able to prioritize using common sense and discretion or they wo.....
» 2/10/2006 8:48:30 AM TRTL, I didn't say:"you've been told these stores stock pornography". Of course.....
» 29/09/2006 12:29:38 PM Hello Yabby it has been a while, Get your mind out of your pants! : ) I was talking about.....
» 29/09/2006 12:01:33 PM They become less slaves to their testosterone levels but I think they often get declining .....
» 29/09/2006 11:41:42 AM Please! The study shows an illusory correlation between an international trend for reduced.....
» 29/09/2006 11:06:28 AM I could go on but there is a need to respect centuries of thinking and not approach seriou.....
» 29/09/2006 11:04:20 AM "But sooner or later we need to be willing to review our practices against those used.....
» 27/09/2006 1:28:11 PM Sorry if I derailed the thread. Perhaps I can kick start it again. Jasper BBB “Judas” In.....
» 27/09/2006 11:58:38 AM Hi FH, Don’t worry. If you say something offensive I will tell you. I have been known to .....
» 27/09/2006 11:01:48 AM “Either way, is it not then beholden to the pope to make the distinction and clarify the '.....
» 26/09/2006 10:21:09 AM F H, Your Egyptian example if I understand it correctly is thought provoking. The behavio.....
» 26/09/2006 9:17:22 AM relda, As far as the pub thing I would agree. He is hardly a BBC knee jerk reaction kinda.....
» 25/09/2006 3:43:31 PM Relda, I have just read your intelligent understanding of the Pope’s speech. It is always.....
» 25/09/2006 10:35:24 AM Athair, If I may be at liberty to interject in your dialogue with David... ”The Pope Has.....
» 25/09/2006 10:05:31 AM Irfan, Protestant bashing seems almost as lateral a possibility as Muslim bashing. Howeve.....
» 22/09/2006 1:05:41 PM FW, Catholics have a type of mini-Ramadan every Friday but no feast afterward. You guys g.....
» 22/09/2006 8:55:37 AM The Pope qualified his use of the quote to ensure that there was no misunderstanding and a.....
» 22/09/2006 8:21:55 AM I believe these comments in an article I found identify the source of the problem quite we.....
» 21/09/2006 4:02:07 PM Irfan, Thank you for the interesting article. An issue tangential to the article but imp.....
» 21/09/2006 1:28:50 PM I second that. An Aussie Icon is lost. I feel sorry for his family. If the media hadn't la.....
» 21/09/2006 1:20:09 PM "Graham Y, why don’t you remove all defamatory posts- all people involved in this dis.....
» 21/09/2006 1:06:21 PM Thanks AJD. So you are producing a documentary and your team has conducted FOI applicatio.....
» 21/09/2006 12:46:30 PM Rhian, I believe that you misunderstood me and I am not doubting your scriptures. I was .....
» 21/09/2006 12:33:14 PM Just to clarify my understanding of a few things so to try to ensure we are speaking the s.....
» 20/09/2006 11:07:05 AM David, Were the Pastors who gave the speech about Islam converts from Islam or something?.....
» 20/09/2006 8:11:04 AM "Our doco is an independant production." As the information that you are puttin.....
» 20/09/2006 8:04:31 AM Rhian, That is a very thoughtful and flattering interpretation seeking a truth in an arti.....
» 19/09/2006 12:32:30 PM I know the door gets closed during confession but it would still be a pretty daring and am.....
» 19/09/2006 12:12:03 PM Athair, "if he was to truelly change his blooper he would say that the report by Pro.....
» 19/09/2006 10:03:31 AM Pericles, Many of the other stories in the religion section were also quite amusing. Care.....
» 19/09/2006 8:42:24 AM "We are making a documentary, you can see all our data once it is completed. We will .....
» 19/09/2006 8:21:30 AM Athair, If I may be at liberty to interject. I find your comments about the Pope, David, .....
» 18/09/2006 2:39:15 PM To all concerned. Would farmers really support Compassion in World Farming and their “eat.....
» 18/09/2006 11:35:53 AM Thanks for your reply AJD. You have certainly looked into the issue with your Department a.....
» 18/09/2006 9:57:41 AM Sorry to disappoint but from what I have heard the Pope has already apologized. Before th.....
» 15/09/2006 12:18:04 PM AJD Thank you for noting the first bit. You and your team gave an understandable initial r.....
» 14/09/2006 2:13:54 PM "Wendy...ship Yabby off to middle east..funny as..hope hes packed his lil backpack an.....
» 14/09/2006 2:11:54 PM "Mjpb, AJD is right, more 95% of those in jail for sexual crimes follow Yahweh.".....
» 14/09/2006 12:10:54 PM The Alchemist, You haven't posted for a while. Here is something off topic to ensure you .....
» 13/09/2006 1:22:32 PM Clearly there are both historical and theological links between Christianity and a dislike.....
» 13/09/2006 10:21:49 AM No Rhys and Alchemist that is wishful thinking. I did not make the comment based on number.....
» 13/09/2006 7:34:16 AM "To join into your discussion group it is necessary to join Yahoo - which I'm in the .....
» 12/09/2006 2:15:54 PM Ybgirp The last thing I would do is suggest that that is not an “other social issue” and .....
» 12/09/2006 1:28:36 PM The Alchemist You are a vegetarian! We have something else not in common. My only interes.....
» 12/09/2006 11:30:52 AM AntjeStruthmann Thank you but this thread is really long and padded with some personal no.....
» 12/09/2006 11:11:37 AM Accent Re: equating secular killers with secularism Indeed you have a point. However tha.....
» 12/09/2006 9:44:07 AM Ybgirp I aimed to make 3 points. The two going out to you related to childhood indoctrina.....
» 11/09/2006 3:34:34 PM I note that some support various points by claiming that atheists aren’t pushing a barrow .....
» 11/09/2006 12:58:20 PM Rhys Fact 1: Your "fact" is prefaced with “no credible”. Credible to you presu.....
» 8/09/2006 12:53:27 PM It is great to see such an overwhelmingly large number of posts on this important topic. I.....
» 8/09/2006 12:07:11 PM A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you kn.....
» 8/09/2006 12:05:03 PM You may have read this before. I just thought it might create a diversion easing the tensi.....
» 8/09/2006 10:26:55 AM Rhys, David is correct. This is our nation’s heritage and should be preserved. Certainly .....
» 8/09/2006 10:00:13 AM David you have raised many issues in analysing the pros and cons of the crusades and I agr.....
» 7/09/2006 2:43:18 PM "Why are our laws prohibiting child_sacrifice to pagan_deities not subject to challen.....
» 7/09/2006 2:33:53 PM A good example of why the Anglican Communion around the globe is in trouble. He is either.....
» 11/07/2006 9:44:44 AM As a lay Catholic with no theology degree my view is perhaps simpler than the author's. Ho.....
» 13/05/2006 5:28:40 AM Yabby, “ cherrypicked out a few bits about what was natural law “ The information you h.....
» 5/05/2006 3:15:06 AM Yabby, ”The whole world is wrong, ... everyone is wrong except Meg, the Pope and Mother T.....
» 5/05/2006 3:06:11 AM Meg, Thanks for the thumbs up. Yabby, “ If only women who wanted children had them, the.....
» 3/05/2006 1:39:31 AM Yabby, ”Many of the Mafia were churchgoing Catholics remember.” But were they really pra.....
» 3/05/2006 1:33:23 AM What a mountain of posts as usual! Yabby, “Let me give you the bad news however: nearly.....
» 30/04/2006 11:20:07 AM "MJ, you still have not answered the question. Do you think that a 9 year old who is .....
» 27/04/2006 6:18:35 AM Yabby ”… unlike third world women, where your church wants to force raped 9 year olds to .....
» 27/04/2006 6:08:10 AM Yabby “ When 9 year olds who were raped, …” it shows the consequences of a rejection of.....
» 22/04/2006 4:10:19 AM Yabby, "I don't "abuse' the Catholic Church, I simply use informed criticism to.....
» 21/04/2006 6:20:37 AM Yabby "...crusaders would head off to kill the muslims," Who had conquered the.....
» 18/04/2006 11:28:10 PM “MJ, she didn't have legal abortion, because legal abortions are banned in much of the thi.....
» 17/04/2006 1:27:17 PM ”You are saying that if people die, who don't follow Catholic dogma, well so be it. The ef.....
» 17/04/2006 6:34:25 AM Yabby, “"If Church dogma was adopted it would not happen." MJ, you show simila.....
» 16/04/2006 5:57:07 AM “MJ, sadly the effects of the policies of the Catholic Church, kill far more women in the .....
» 12/04/2006 5:27:26 AM ”Re tolerance, I don't have a problems with Buddhists or Hare Krishnas, only with those wh.....
» 12/04/2006 5:24:29 AM “Bin Laden encourages killing of innocents, more akin to your comments, not mine…” LOL Wel.....
» 10/04/2006 3:42:26 AM ”Fact is that most US Catholics ignore church teachings on contraception and the abortion .....
» 10/04/2006 3:29:22 AM Yabby, “MJ, the difference in abortion rates between England and Holland has long been ex.....
» 7/04/2006 11:25:16 PM Yabby, “ The Dutch story is easy to explain..” That explanation doesn’t work. Contracept.....
» 6/04/2006 11:04:25 PM Yabby, “The problem with the Catholic Church …enforce its agenda politically, resulting i.....
» 6/04/2006 1:06:44 AM ""If they complied with Church policies they would be alive." "...You.....
» 5/04/2006 4:27:57 AM Yabby “MJ, the Catholic Church uses every method in can, to restrict women in South Americ.....
» 4/04/2006 5:21:47 AM Bosk ”Not in South America MJ… done deals with right wing dictators & preached patience to.....
» 3/04/2006 3:18:19 AM ”Regarding empathy/altruism, you are about 50 years out of date as to how the mind works.”.....
» 2/04/2006 4:42:41 AM Yabby, “The three Abramic religions all have a history of violence. If we wanted a more p.....
» 1/04/2006 5:49:56 AM Col, ”It is this second 1% who have trashed the efforts of many who work tirelessly to he.....
» 31/03/2006 4:40:42 AM Col, “I still insist you IDENTIFY that team which according to you “has a worse track rec.....
» 29/03/2006 3:23:40 AM "Now either your are completely stupid or deliberately attempting to avoid answering .....
» 28/03/2006 12:12:19 AM Col ”What is the Name of “my team / club”, how many members does it have?” When I pointe.....
» 18/03/2006 5:34:51 AM ““In any event your ‘team’ has a much worse track record for engaging in paedophile behavi.....
» 15/03/2006 2:51:02 AM Col, ”Only a complete fool would attempt to justify one by claiming a relatively fewer nu.....
» 14/03/2006 5:52:29 AM “… those main players have been corrupting the set of rules since the time your club was f.....
» 10/03/2006 3:10:28 AM "doctrine...only proclaimed in the 19th century" Bosk I think I know where the .....
» 8/03/2006 6:08:18 AM Col If the comments truly are not founded in hate you certainly are more indifferent to t.....
» 5/03/2006 8:02:53 PM “Mjpb “These demeaning comments are at the least disrespectful” “Disrespectful” is a subj.....
» 4/03/2006 12:09:05 PM “ puerile attempt to vilify and claim “hate” is my motive.” I am not being silly or vicio.....
» 3/03/2006 10:36:59 PM “no smoke without fire” As I explained above it isn’t smoke - just hot air. ”“I believe.....
» 3/03/2006 9:36:01 AM "“paedophile priests…” media sensationalism” Like an Iceberg, the truth is often hidd.....
» 2/03/2006 10:21:54 PM ”Umm MJ, I think you must be having a bad hairday lol.” I thought that when we agreed I’d.....
» 1/03/2006 10:51:31 PM "A lady I had a long relationship with who happened to be catholic was told by her pr.....
» 1/03/2006 9:50:25 PM “MJ, clearly you are confused and missed my points. The first being considering the histor.....
» 28/02/2006 8:24:05 AM “ After reading a book called "The Sex Lives of the Popes", methinks perhaps alo.....
» 26/02/2006 11:00:01 AM ” Meg1 - if you don't mind, I did not come here to read personal attacks from you on my ch.....
» 23/02/2006 9:07:31 PM "Sexual activity never has been confined to the “safety net of marriage”.” Even toda.....
» 22/02/2006 12:47:33 PM “Pregnany is more dangerous than surgical abortion and RU486 is safer than surgical aborti.....
» 22/02/2006 3:32:45 AM Col “Most of the horror of priestly abuse is lost in time and in cover-ups. … I think if .....
» 21/02/2006 9:45:03 AM Col the word limit is 350 and background is important. In your article the lawyers against.....
» 20/02/2006 6:15:54 PM "“diatribes of mindless, feet-stamping, slanderous generalizations on the Catholic Ch.....
» 20/02/2006 9:02:02 AM Yabby you have given me an article to look at so I’ll get back to it once I have done it. .....
» 18/02/2006 10:55:58 PM “To all the TRUE pro-lifers, below is a link to the "Save the Children Fund" and.....
» 18/02/2006 12:36:34 PM “"and the best protection of the individual and their rights is a Christian society&q.....
» 17/02/2006 5:24:28 PM First I note that I am getting extremely annoyed with all the defamatory comments that Col.....
» 16/02/2006 9:42:55 AM Yabbie’s >A woman's uterus is ... not the business of the pope, the govt, or anyone el.....
» 16/02/2006 9:25:30 AM There is 69 posts here. I have not read them all. I will quote parts of the most recent an.....
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