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Is fluoridation really necessary

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Is fluoridation really necessary

Supertooth says there is overwhelming evidence to support recent health reports like “A Healthier Future For All Australians” JUNE 2009, that all recommend “Governments make additional funding available for improved oral health promotion, with interventions to be decided based upon relative cost-effectiveness assessment”.

Even with fluoridation and Oral Health education, Dental Caries is the most common and second most costly disease affecting every family including over 11 million Australians every year and decay is a major cause of the Oral Heath Services budget doubling to over $6 billion since 2001. Many communities do not have fluoridation and have twice as much tooth decay.

All cavities occur from acid demineralisation that exceeds remineralisation between meals where carbohydrate is in food left on teeth, mostly trapped under chewing pressure while eating every meal or snack that displaces previously trapped food.

Though most trapped food is packed between teeth, over 80% of cavities occur inside pits and fissures in chewing surfaces where saliva, toothbrushes and toothpaste have little access to neutralise acid and remineralise demineralised tooth. www.supertoothndk.org

Fissure sealants (fillings without drilling) placed over chewing surfaces block food being trapped and halts the caries process but could be more cost effective.

Elastomer strips force fissure sealants (fillings without drilling) inside all upper and lower occlusal surfaces on one side of the mouth at once under chewing pressure while blocking out saliva, retaining functional occlusion and saving chair time and cost. This is a simpler more desirable cost effective preventive treatment that also shows how much food is trapped while eating when in the laboratory a tooth is dissolved in acid leaving only the sealant.

The elastomer can also be an integral part of a toothbrush to force fluoride toothpaste inside pits and fissures under chewing pressure before or after brushing especially in children who have better chewing skills than manual skills and who need to understand the concept of remineralisation that needs to exceed demineralisation from food left on teeth after every meal or snack from an early age.
Posted by Supertooth, Monday, 22 February 2010 10:21:32 AM
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Hi

A good dental service with short waiting list would not need fluoridation, whether or not it is good.
The real issue for Australia is government/s that mishandles evidence or does not read the latest research, but is influenced by industrial/commercial vested interest to make it mandatory. This is very serious as there are alternatives for those who wish to ingest fluoride.
In Victoria, people who had moved from Melbourne to unfluoridated areas due to fluoride sensitivity, now have no choices, other than extremely costly facilities to remove it from the water.
The government and its minions refuse to say how these citizens will be protected.
A request of the Water Board and DHS to provide:
• A written guarantee it would not hurt the writers or their family.
• That in the event of trauma cause by fluoride the government would pay all medical and legal costs.
A second option was requested the government would pay for the cost of a reverse osmosis filtration system at the point of entry to the property but before the meter for those who did not want the service. The reason for this is that in order to get e.g. 3 litres of pure water you would be wasting around 10 litres of water to clean the membrane.
When drafting the request I advised that it would be refused but the answer would prove useful and would indicate whether the government was interested in listening to the constituents.
The answer:
An emphatic refusal of the water Board CEO to sign a written agreement or to pay any medical costs, etc.
DHS sent a nice glossy brochure about how good it was for you. Strangely it also used some alleged research from South America stating it was safe.
Curious.
Why not use the latest research and information from Europe, where there was more research undertaken and some 99% of Europe no longer fluoridate water supplies. It would also be valuable to have included the European High Court Ruling on the use of Fluoride.
Continued
Posted by professor-au, Monday, 22 February 2010 10:38:24 PM
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Fluoridation may affect rural products, including food processors forced to use fluoridated water to process their products. The present prognosis is that EU may reject food contaminated by fluoride.
Producers will need to install filtration systems to take out the fluoride. Our governments are ignoring this.
A government official questioned, informed me Australian law is different from Britain and Europe law. Does this justify bad and unjust laws or breaching of the Australian Constitution to deny Common Law Rights, i.e. the right of choice?
Some politicians have informed me that Victoria and other States have their own constitution. What was failed to be mentioned was that where a State law conflicts with the Commonwealth law then the Commonwealth law prevails.
Other issues possibly relate to the Fluoride Act themselves and their legality.
The Acts propose a level of 1 pmm fluoride. Nothing else. The fluoridation process uses products used are waste products from industry containing heavy metals and other waste material. A safety data sheet obtained from Pivot/Incitec showed up to 4.68 pmm of heavy metals, etc.
The Acts also contravene our Medical Acts in that a person shall not be forcibly medicated against their will; that it requires a qualified medical practitioner to carry out the process, yet the government/s have delegated this responsibility to Water Boards, Trusts etc.
Who, in turn delegate this to unqualified labourers to feed into the system?
Fluoride medication does not sufficiently allow for such things as body weight, gender difference, sensitivity of individuals, age, etc. The amount of fluoride already in the areas, including air and water. It cannot be accurately be dispensed for the individuals, despite protests that it can and subsequently be stopped. The recommendations show that it should not be given to babies under four years of age and supervised with children to seven years of age.
Perhaps the politicians need to listen to their constituents concerns, rather than the power mongers.
Anger is increasing at the government arrogance and refusal to listen and MP’s may be forced to change their views when the votes of constituents voice that anger.
Posted by professor-au, Monday, 22 February 2010 10:40:10 PM
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"Why not use the latest research and information from Europe"

How about something a bit closer to home, like this piece of research showing a dramatic improvement in dental health in the Blue Mountains since the introduction of water fluoridation in 1992?

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/bpl/adj/2009/00000054/00000004/art00015

And where are all the studies consistently showing higher morbidity and/or mortality from water fluoridation? As studies like the above consistently show, the only morbidity and suffering which people need fear is that which results when anti-fluoridation advocates successfully delay or remove a safe and effective public health measure from municipal water supplies.
Posted by Fester, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 12:18:13 AM
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Floridation works.

It is same nut jobs that oppose vaccination that oppose floridation.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 7:05:38 AM
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Fluoridation, vaccination, circumcision. They are a good idea just deal with it. Why do some people get so worked up about the big three preventative health measures and conjure up fears about the sky falling on people's head if they use them? Simple safe measures can protect our kids and save the community and individuals a lot of money. I had fluoride as a kid and dentists still ooh and ah over my teeth and ask if I had fluoride as a kid. As a young kid I shoved half a bottle of fluoride tablets in my mouth and chewed them up to the horror of my mother. Whilst people should stick to proper dosages I note that even that 'overdose' didn't make me feel the slightest bit ill.
Posted by mjpb, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 10:06:31 AM
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