Five Questions for Theists:

1. How do you "explain" the existence of God?

Penrose et al. have had a stab at explaining the beginning of this universe. Both theists and atheists have to deal with the ontological problem of infinite regress [Ruse in ISIS.]. Dawkins makes the point correctly, I believe, a god would be a complex entity, begging the question of how did it became that way?

Not I "did nt" ask: Does God Exist? Please address the question, as put.

2. Why did god allow the Pre-Cambrian Extinction?

Between about 800 million years BP and 500 million years BP, there were two distinct forms of life evolving, one path became extinct, 500 million BP: These creatures didn't even have tubular internal system [intestines, blood vessels etc.] as most species on our path do. [Leakey] Different from us, as if they were from Mars.

If Humans were at the centre of creation, why would a god destroy an entire independent path of evolution, when it was intended that the alternative path, leading to us, was its goal? Billions of innocent creatures died needlessly.

Note: natural selection did not have as much traction at that most distant time, because there were ecological niches not in competition in the early earth: Not all the earth was inhabited.

3. Given a loving god, why is the insect kingdom so cruel?

4. How was Jesus born with Mary's hymen intact?

5. Would James have a stronger claim on the Davanic throne than Jesus, given James’ legitimate birth?

I put it to you; that all the above are legitimate questions, that all theists should answer. Maybe, others on OLO might think similarly.

Epilogue: Do you think the above are important questions to answer?

Let's have some traction here, no its all a mystery stuff, please.

Either side of the god debate; your contribution is respected, in the true spirit of OLO.

Hahahahahaha *shakes head*

1. You actually want a random comment in a random thread on a random opinion site to come up with a conclusive answer for something we, as an entire species, can't get our heads round. So far, it's called 'faith'.

2. Last time I checked my drivers licence it didn't state 'God'. Ask him, when you get there.

3. Life's cruel, harden up. It's called 'the circle of life'. Survival of the fittest is another way to look at it.

4. I guess anything is possible when you were also immaculately conceived.

5. You actually think about this stuff?. Ummmmm.....dunno....can I phone a friend?.

It is pathetic to have my posts on israel banned then have to read mindless stuff like proposed in this questioner.

The questioner asks about god then talks about a few aspects of gods son [why you need the father to be the son [from a virgin no less]

jesus came here to reveal his father live with it
jesus was a jew he came to tell his people about god/good

god gives allof us our lives [god is the lifegiver] jesus confirmed by his 'dying'and'being/born again that the jewish belief in people rising on some 'JUDGMENT day is childish belief

Jesus didnt need to-die-for-you-to-be-saved-from-a-wrathfull-jewish-god

It certainly wasnt his [our fathers will]god-is-love

god is mercy and grace [jesus revealed a new covenant [LOVE GOD , AND LOVE NEIGHBOUR] its not rocketscience ,even-to-jews

Jesus didnt come here to make alcopops from hand-washing water [when he said it is not my time he meant that,

you dont get its not a miricle but jesus saying to his brother jews i dont care if you feed them that hand wash water

Same with if you were a jew you wouldnt dare to eat back then without washing your hands first[thus feeding 4 thousand or even 5000 jews ''all they wished to eat ''[ie note]isnt that much of a miricle]

But you never got the son so totally missed what he came here to reveal about our father

[but you dont need to worry about that because gods 'own ' know god [the life GIVER] ' even less ....what with murdereing palistinians in palistein ,and christians [25 million in russia]

Dont you know arabs are semites [look up the word sometime]

While your at it look up israel[wars with god] , even his own know him not[nor recognise what their own king revealed about the one god of all living

now stop adulterating the word of the son and pray toyour god [put nothing before god oF life , who isnt served by death nor sacrifice [ritual murder]

god is the living/loving god of life
live with it [its not worth dying over

Early posters,

Thank you for your comments which I see take a Theist perspective. I was hoping for some nitty-gritty: e.g., Life's tough is an answer to why a god would be so cruel. The Pre-Cambrian thing also is very interesting. The paths on a virgin earth were not in competition because previously nothing was there. Do you see the point.

Virgin birth may had a different meaning in the first century, as historians exclain [Mack, Theing]. But if the physical delivery Jesus was to highly problematic it needs to be explain gynaecologically.

I will tied up today, so please excuse me if I am off-air for a day or so. I resently moved back to Oz from Hong Kong and expecting a major delivery today."I shall return"

Theists, please try to avoid its evasivee its a miracle and its a mystery of the church explanations. A think the questions are fairly direct and beg fairly tangible answers, please.

Cheers.

O.

Dear Oliver :)

my my... you don't half ask big questions do you? *pinch*

1/ No...I cannot 'explain' the Existence of God, I can only 'report' it.

2/ No idea. Flood/etc... Not a scholar on that area, refer 'Answers in Genesis/Creation science' for a coverage of such issues. (they usually offer both sides of the question)

3/ Insects? 'survival of the fittest' Invented by.. our Creator :)
p.s. 'cruel' is a value judgement based on a system of morality, which, without God as reference point...is meaningless.

4/ Hymen intact? Oly.. please..stop watching the cartoon version of Greys Anatomy and go for some real medical info.. there is no chance whatsoever that Mary's hymen was in tact after the birth of the Lord Jesus.. I don't know where u dredged that up from.. perhaps it's Catholic doctrine? It sure isn't either common sense nor biblical.

5/ James? no... Jesus birth was fulfillment of prophecy as Messiah.
In any case, Mary's line also goes back to David.

FINAL ANSWER :) to all those questions.. is found in John chapter 20, verse 30-31

Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31But these are written that you may[a] believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

blessings 2 u Oly.

Correction:

Thank you for your comments which I see take a Theist perspective. I was hoping for some nitty-gritty: e.g., Life's tough ISN OT an answer to why a god would be so cruel. Oops, sorry.

There were times when aras of the earth was not occupied and there were open niches. Not all the parking spaces were taken. The carpark was at first empty. It was not a matter of the paths competing; these species were too highly differented. More so than deep sea crabs and eagles. Totally different.

There was a selective extinction event [Leakey]. Why would gentle gos allow a now extinct path of life-type to evolve for 300 million years and stuff it out. Perhaps, by having more oxygen in the atmosphere, the most accepted theory. If that or somethink it were the means: why behave in such a manner?

Please answer the questions with some traction