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Posted by alphafemale, Sunday, 3 September 2006 10:48:32 PM
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Question: Why are they all wrong and only one right, without reference to the bible, which is not enough evidence.
Question: When a religion hates another religion so intensely why is it forgivable in their gods eyes? Question: Klu Klux Klan have christian beliefs. Believe they are the only children of God, that they are the one true race. Why are they not allowed to be free in their beliefs? Answer: Because For the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few. Answer: Because God is Love. Answer: I will allow them along with al-qaeda. Posted by Michael4Love, Monday, 4 September 2006 1:18:58 AM
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Dear Alpha
you would benefit greatly from some personal_enquiry into those matters. The only difference between Religious Jews and Chrisians is the issue of Christ, Messiah or not. There are many Christian Jews. What we (Christians) do, is proclaim Christ and the Gospel, for all to hear, accept or reject. Just as Jesus Himself did. We believe the Gospels are a true account of Christs teaching and life story. Please refer to them, and then if you have doubts, dig further into the sources. Sorry, I have to give you a URL for that, http://www.worldinvisible.com/library/ffbruce/ntdocrli/ntdocont.htm Do we 'hate' non Christians ? Jews ? Muslims ? Not at all. Unbelievers are described by Jesus as 'a lost sheep' for whom the good shepherd will leave the 99 safe and search out the one which is lost. He will continue searching until he finds it. Please read the parables of Jesus concerning the kingdom of God. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=48&chapter=4&version=31 I hate the idea of a supposed man of God telling small boys that his fondling of them is 'ok'.... Jesus taught that such people deserve a great millstone around their necks and 2b cast into the sea. There is something I hate though.... 'falsehood'.I especially hate it when marketed to unsuspecting people as 'truth'. I most particularly hate the idea of a murderer/assassin/childmolester/Torturer/Mutilator_of_prisoners claiming to be "The final messenger of God". As far as I am concerned such an idea originates in the very pit of HELL. Those happless enough to follow such ideas, are deserving of compassion yes, but most of all guidance. Would you not agree that if Ivan Milat started a religion, that his followers need to have his personal history pointed out ? Regarding ANY group using or claiming 'Christian' affiliation or foundation, you MUST assess such claims in the light of the fundamental teachings of Christ. There is no other way around it. Hitler used the bible to justify slautghtering millions of Jews. I've read his understanding. Only a person maliciously intent on mass murder could twist the sciptures that way. "By their fruit you will know them". (Jesus) Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 4 September 2006 6:25:56 AM
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I can pose questions as well; who says that all religions are wrong and who says that only one is right. As a catholic myself I thank you for your questions, and in response, I say that religion should not be based on who is right and who is wrong, but rather, religion, all religions, should be based on faith or, a common belief that there is something else in this world, a something that may never be comprehended. In religion there will always be extremists and there will always be religious segregation but it is important that everyone believes in something, even if this belief is that there is nothing at all. Maybe you should invest some time studying the topic rather than posing arguments through your stereotypical knowledge of what Christian, Islamic and Jewish people believe.
Posted by Gamble, Tuesday, 5 September 2006 7:25:08 PM
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Gamble, AlphaFemale could spend the rest of her life studying what the various beliefs in the three large groupings she mentions and still not have all the variations within that group. I'm constantly astounded by the variety amongst the christians just on this forum.
A common theme for many of that group (but not all) is relentless muslim bashing. Our resident muslims (two few) generally take more care that their posts reflect the values they claim for their faith. I'm not aware of any regular posters promoting the jewish faith. At a guess AlphaFemales post was a response to some of what she see's from those posters rather than a broadside at all people who use one of those titles to identify their faith. The questions she asks are valid for all those who claim to have the final and absolute truth regarding the true faith. They forget the role geographic location, parental beliefs etc play in the choices people make about faith. They forget that people who believe entirely different things experience things in their lives which are not readily explained. It's great to finally have a place for some of these discussions outside other more specific threads. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 5 September 2006 7:45:44 PM
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I seem to need to put my belief forward on questions I ask for papers I write that are given to me to research not for my personal opinion. But I will give my personal belief because someone named Scout pointed out with validation that I am too blunt and cold. lol Sounds like a politician in the making if I can change the blunt to slippery.
I have studied hundreds unfortunately it will take me a life time to study everything I am fascinated about in this amazing world that we take for granted. Yes I have a fascination for the Ivan Milats of the world and please remember Mason,Vladimar,Ghengis,Stalin,Hitler. Strong, emotionally and maybe mentally impaired but the people believed in them to begin with. Why; Is what makes people the most interesting and diverse range of creatures on this earth. I was raised Irish Catholic,(they created the religion you understand)...but I have seen to much to keep this one belief for myself. My children find peace within themselves and love a God that gives me contentment for their understanding, compassion and ability to live for their morals and principles in treatment of others. I teach them about other cultures because a faith above all is and should be judged on pureness and belief and internal peace that faith allows you. Posted by alphafemale, Tuesday, 5 September 2006 9:32:07 PM
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Pick a god and you have a one in three chance of being right. Or you might be wrong and it could be one of over 50 000 religions in the world.
Question: Why are they all wrong and only one right, without reference to the bible, which is not enough evidence.
Question: When a religion hates another religion so intensely why is it forgivable in their gods eyes?
Question: Klu Klux Klan have christian beliefs. Believe they are the only children of God, that they are the one true race. Why are they not allowed to be free in their beliefs?
No URL"S please personal voices only I can google too.