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Re-instating the cane...for the sake of future society

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The following story speaks of a young school girl allegedly raped whilst on a school outing.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24791883-5006009,00.html

The girls parents had entrusted the girls safety to the school teachers...yet despite the teachers best efforts, the girl was allegedly raped.

Leaping back 4 decades this type of incident would never have been heard of.
So whats the difference?

Could it be that by removing the cane from public and high schools we have in fact allowed the hoodlums and the non-conformists to take charge of the classroom?

Our high school teacher friend tells stories of unruly classrooms where she no longer feels safe...of classrooms where frequently she is subjected to the F word and other curses.

There are no security guards on duty at her school.

Would security guards help control the wilder teenagers?

Would a return to corporal punishment improve the solution...or might we just as well close the schools and do 'school' over the net?
My high school teacher friend say most of the trouble in class is caused by Middle eastern appearance youth?
The youths in the alleged rape were also stated as being of Middle eastern appearance.

Is there a solution to this latter aspect?
Posted by Gibo, Saturday, 13 December 2008 12:50:05 PM
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Firstly, I think the cane should never have been removed from schools, or homes for that matter.

As to four decadeds ago, the main difference would have been that it was one of the teachers that was the rapist. Just look at our prisons and churches if you don't agree.

As for our muli cutural society, well, you will have to ask the do-gooders about that one. They are the ones to blame for that mess.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 13 December 2008 6:57:27 PM
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Spare the rod and spoil the meat.

Are you clowns for real?
Posted by CJ Morgan, Saturday, 13 December 2008 7:32:04 PM
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Gibo, the only time I got the cane in school was on one occasion when I was heavily bullied and reported the perpetrator. The headmaster couldnít be bothered with the incident and just decided to cane both of us, just like that.

Iíd never come anywhere near being caned before that and I was proud of it. It had a huge impact on me. Of course it had practically no impact on the other kid, who was a serial bully.

I had looked up to the headmaster as being a very wise man. Of course my opinion of him was shattered.

That was a pretty major event for an eleven year old. About forty years on Iíd still like to get hold of that guy (the headmaster, not the other kid) and rip his ruddy nuts awf, if heís still alive.

It was an instance in which the cane was misused. I suspect that this sort of thing is not that uncommon. I donít think that those who dish out the cuts are necessarily always level-headed or held to account for their actions.

So if the cane is to be returned, it needs to be accompanied by a good regime of accountability for those who use it.
Posted by Ludwig, Saturday, 13 December 2008 9:59:08 PM
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All three of my children received the wooden spoon to their rear when rebelling against their parents. They are now drug free, in employment or university and are well adjusted. Those who equate loving discipline with violence are fools. The most violent selfish kids and adults are those who have not been disciplined. Today they fill the schools and streets. Dr Spock and his self indulgent followers have achieved the breakdown of law and order in our society that anyone with half a brain could of predicted. It is difficult to believe any parents are stupid enough not to smack their children when needed.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 13 December 2008 11:36:56 PM
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rehctub,
You have done it again. Do really must put your hand up for PM.
This country needs someone like you.

Its time we woke up. Try going to the super market now days.
Kids out of control while parents do nothing.
Dam right the good good doers caused it.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 14 December 2008 12:48:09 AM
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