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Perhaps God does exist

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Is this the birth of a new religion?

A long time ago in South Africa I saw a group of university students protesting the death penalty. Being against the death penalty myself I had no quarrel with their stance. But what struck me was that they were all wearing Che Guevara T-shirts.

I am getting on in years. I am so old that I remember reading about Che before he became a cult figure. Che was Castro's executioner and a thuggish one at that.

You can read a bit about the real Che here:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2461399.ece

Protesting against the death penalty clad in T-shirts that bore the image of an executioner seemed to me to be beyond irony. I tried to engage the protesting students in a dialogue. It was hopeless. The students flat out refused to believe me. Any evidence I produced about Che's role as an executioner was dismissed as a "smear" of the "imperialist media."

Yet today even the "imperialist media" seem to have taken Che Guevara to heart. His entry in the Britannica is silent on his years as Castro's executioner.

See: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/248399/Che-Guevara

Even that apotheosis of "imperialist media," Time Magazine, has whitewashed Che. See:

http://www.time.com/time/time100/heroes/profile/guevara01.html

Yet it was mainly in the pages of Time Magazine that I read about Che's executions between 1959 and 1961!

Is this how religions start? If mythmakers can transform a thuggish, sadistic and rather dim witted brute like Che into a revered legend in just four decades what can we really know about Jesus or Muhammad?

Sometimes I do believe in God. Only a "divine comedian" could come up with the Che story.

God exists. He is the Great Comic in the Sky.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Monday, 9 February 2009 12:01:18 PM
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those shirts are not rare, here in Australia the head of a left wing union has one on very often.
I just can not believe a new religion has anything to do with the shirt or the man who bought it on.
however I get a laugh at that shirt and its wearer often.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 9 February 2009 4:44:19 PM
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Gods are made, even without their consent.

Consider one very human priest-king claimant of the House of David, teacher to Gentiles, under the Herods, within in First Century Rome. In the Fourth Century, he was promoted to divinity.

Even in the 21st Century, it still remains challenging for history-history to gain rightful ascendancy over religous-history.
Posted by Oliver, Monday, 9 February 2009 8:08:19 PM
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SteveLmeyer! Lost your child-hood? O(liver give me steak and pie. LOL.
Of course god exist! The 9 teen- century says so, and so on! But you think this is compatible with the 20>

I have only read the first four lines of this thread.

EVO
Posted by EVO2, Monday, 9 February 2009 11:38:36 PM
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You don't have to believe in myths unless you want to..those youth protesting and wearing CG t shirts did not know the truth about the man..but they did believe in protesting against capital punishment...

Had they worn Donald Duck t-shirts I don't think it would have been as aesthetically profound for them...they were young, needed their own symbols.. And the youth of today are no different, indeed political beliefs and symbols have been made redundant by brand materialism that purports to be apolitical - but its not.
Posted by Rainier, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 12:37:02 AM
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Rainer. There are loose-rs and there are winners in the race for evaluations rules, and with natures callings, how can anyone disagree.

Excepted for man, all other living things hates us, and that's a fact.

3 billion or the way of the dinosaurs!

It is our choice.

EVO
Posted by EVO2, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 12:56:01 AM
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