Hasbeen,

ah, but bed fellows can be handy too just ask a poly:)

*The AMIEU were almost entirely responsible for destroying much of their industry.*

Yep. The old fellows really screwed up big time. Hes some of today's-

http://amieu.net/files/pdf/Fact%20Sheet%20-%20MLA%20and%20LiveCorp%20knew%20in%20May%202010%20about%20the%20practices%20occurring%20in%20Indonesian%20abattoirs.pdf
I am very serious and so are AMIEU RSPCA and Australian Muslim leaders
Strange bed fellows maybe but also more than a few god men among us
us standing united for jobs for Australians and a decent death for our Australian Farm Animals

Its the least we owe them.

Cheers hasbeen

A reality check has been pushed down my throat this morning.
I just posted in articles, have been doing so for a while.
Must admit while taking a spell from here, due to this subject, challenges to my right to think what I will.
I could not stay out of the News International debate.
I have posted many links from papers all over the British Isles and Some times America.
The lesson?
Not just here, but brand new for Australia, more recently over heated in America.
Politics has divided us, even given birth the pure Hate.
Take a position,as I have/do on any subject, and you will get trampled under foot.
Right left it matters not.
Now I dare to be an ALP voter/supporter and this morning paid for it.
See I truly hate my youthful mistakes, may make them again if I was that kid.
But being called a leftist is insulting to me.
Watch some unlikely person tell me,wrongly, Labor left its roots, no we gained office , bought in bank deregulation so very much more.
By becoming the Modern ALP the only ALP BG before greens sank us, that could win government.
My country will remove us,that is clear.
We will get important things past then fall.
But who are we electing with what policy's.
My future posts in this thread will be humerus, thats how I see the greens attempts to silence me, sad too, rushing to be first on the opposition bench's by pressing Australians to dislike the me even more.

KerryAnne I hope you do not mind me putting a few thoughts to you this morning.
In my work life small business men often asked for such advice, remember not all unions are about industrial warfare.
Yes clearly you care for animal welfare and you Halal meat intentions/ business.
And you are loyal to those who are loyal to you and your wants and wishes meat industry union ext.
It, life too, is a sales thing, putting it in every thread turns posters of.
You I no one can shove and push a crowd together.
I remain unionist till death,the southern cross flys out side my house, another is on my wall.
But self interest and pure lies always drive your favorite union.
I heard pure evil lies being generated to flog a boss by them,a weak union destroying tactic.
We will export, do not think the greens will stop it truth is they are so lost in comparison with Australia's economic needs well, in time, after the train wreck soon to come, after a Liberal Double Dissolution election, we will see a different realty.
RSPCA once a proud name ROYAL no less! now? fools and blind ones
We could do worse than put them in the recycle bin and start again.

Goodmorning Belly,

No I don’t mind you butting in at all. After all its your thread. The truth is you have always been my favorite poster because you make me laugh.
Now don’t go jumping to conclusions – that’s not meant to be an insult.
Its good to make people laugh. You have a gift even if you don’t know it. Your just old school and very typically old ALP.

Now if I am to respond to your questions- I will do so honestly with no intent to personally offend you.
You must accept that in not only posting with myself but everybody. To your first question.-

*Yes clearly you care for animal welfare and you Halal meat intentions/ business.*

I have no personal interest in Halal meat business. I see it as important to work with these people however because Halal is growing.
Yes your correct, I do it because I care about animals.

*And you are loyal to those who are loyal to you and your wants and wishes meat industry union ext.*

No Belly, I am loyal to the cause . I will stand united with anybody . I am as well loyal to the founder of much of this Tom Hannan who passed away a few months ago.
Ross Richerson who took over as federal leader after Tom resigned. Good men.tbo the leadership now I have plenty to complain of if i liked. I could course a lot of trouble for them if inclined.
I assume what your trying to say on this thread of yours is the greens have influenced certain people. I am sitting on a time bomb for AMIEU tbo.
There is no doubt what so ever in my mind they are being dictated to ( or willing participates) in a dirty political game.
However, that doesn’t mean I am not pleased about the lobbying to divert the cruel live trade to chilled meats.
You see belly, I am able to separate the two & you must to do likewise

Truth is for many years we were the only ones to work with these guys at federal office- ( you understand)
Truth is whatever we have done AA have copied. That’s ok belly it was planned that way tbo. It may be required later to open our own Halal meat union.
That’s a pity and I assure you that won’t be the Muslims fault. Brian Crawford was just a pup when i started working with them. Actually Russel Carr.
Stop. This isn’t working. Not enough space to go wondering back.

*It, life too, is a sales thing, putting it in every thread turns posters of.*
There are many areas where this comes into play. I point it out each opportunity I get. No apologies.
I don’t come here to make friends. Just raise awareness. Tbo I have little time for people who don’t care about our elderly, Animals, and aboriginals.
Come on belly- how many threads do we see on those topics- very few.

*I heard pure evil lies being generated to flog a boss by them,a weak union destroying tactic.*

Belly, that human nature sadly & not unique to any allegiance.

*We will export, do not think the greens*

It will stop between 3 to 5 years. However I must say you most certainly are NOT the true old ALP.
They used to be about jobs & value adding for Australia. My Dad was ALP but your nothing like his values.
The other thing belly is you understand so little of trade and what’s behind live exports its almost impossible to have a sensible discussion .
I do understand the trade. Now I don’t mind to debate with you so long as you can do so in a sensible manner. Can we do that do you think?
RSPCA agree 100% and again i have the goods- but remember what I said at the top. Stand united for the cause. You know that belly.
You might like a few of the subs that have gone into the inquiry however. Cheers

A reason KerryAnne for me not getting on with the greens is they are wearing blinkers.
It is all very good to know the dangers of using coal, but to not look at the impacts of stopping it fast is silly.
I rather think the world has changed a lot from your dads time.
Labor has been behind much of that change and for the better.
Remember we, even you in some posts say it, need to import workers.
5% unemployment is near full employment, Industry shakes in fear if that number gets too low, wages rises come with shortage of workers.
The live export cattle are not Australian butcher shop meat.
Not yet processed meat either.
One day a combination of west coast or NT processing and live exports will being the norm, not yet.
Halal remains a market we are involved in and it will grow.
I truly think the damage done to Australian exporters ,the live export trade , was bad.
This country may ride on miners backs today but exporting primary produce will always be of special interest.
I will return to green subject next post, putting rolled up news papers under my jumper ready for the boots for holding opinions!