We live and learn every day.
Morganzola is here he did not respond to my posts.
Yet his words not mine he has a list of those he ignores.
But holds me to account for making my list public.
He deplores my views on Greens.
But lashes out at Liberals.
I get no answers to questions.
HOW can any party not see the constant insulting review of my party, but be offended by the same for theirs?
Is this forum to become a punching bag, be with me or against me?
The level of abuse, from every side, is insane.
I challenge Morganzola ANYONE to look at my post history.
See my condemnation of my party, then tell me why I must not say what I think about other party's.
Left of center people are displaying [in some cases] no better behavior that the worse of the tea party right.
These are my views, in reality based on my views and believed understanding of the electorate.
Greens, driven by the silliness their current numbers are wins for them not the true losses of major party's at their lowest, are too big for their boots.
This is their peak all down hill from here.
In ten to 15 years new leadership true conservation policy's , a revival, but not until the fall.

@ Belly:

As it happens, I'm in Brisbane today having tests etc. My apologies for not paying you the constant attention that you apparently think you deserve.

Listen mate, nobody's stopping you expressing your views, but some of us have other things to do than try and answer your confusing questions on demand. Rant on as much as you like, just expect to be corrected when you write rubbish about things that are of some importance to me. You seem incapable of communicating without abuse, so I'm afraid it's back to the ignore list for a while.

Have you thought about taking up another hobby? This one doesn't seem to be making you very happy at the moment.

Ciao.

No more attempts to get together lets leave it at that.
But know I truly honestly wish you well with your health problems.
We have no choice but to go our separate ways.
I Am aware of weakness in you and in truth some greens here.
I will not do as you wish, leave the forum/find another hobby.
See I represent the 88 voters in every hundred, think about that figure, who do not support your wishes.
It is a SLUR to say my confusing questions, it is your problem not mine if you do not understand the following list of statements questions.
Is it true Conservative preferences won your lower house seat.
Can you explain to me in your words, how can the election of Mr Andrew Wilkie, from third past the post, on preferences best serve voters wishes.
You disliked intensely, pretended not to understand my view, we would be better served by the right to vote once no preferences.
How is this undemocratic.
I hold the view,silly me, 88% of Australians are concerned at the power 12% have.
And in the best interests of those who vote for them Conservatives and Labor should ask they voters to put greens last.
Why do you think major party's can face the electorate on their merits but it would be undemocratic if yours had to?
The Senate, house of review once now house of blackmail, how many share my view elected government should not have to deal with minority's?
Get rid of xenapon Wilkie the DLP fool greens, get rid of the Senate.
Dangerous stuff,letting the masses control not minority's.
I wish you well but one day as you sit in the ashes of your dream party know, majority's still rule.

Kerryanne :>>
Sonofgloin, I am trying to get your point in this post. Are you saying we should turn our back on animals being bashed to death with chains and tortured to death?
Are you saying the greens are wrong to be screaming the government has allowed this?
Are you saying it doesn’t matter<<

KA in the post I said this “THE FRACKING ISSUE IS A BILLION TIMES MORE IMPORTANT ON EVERY PLAIN THAN BOVINE CRUELTY and that is not minimizing the bovine issue”.

What I was alluding to is that the Greens are vocal on the bovine issue, and that is a good thing, but they are as good as silent on Fracking. Re the statement regarding the gravity of the two issues, Fracking and its outcomes are ongoing, can’t fix the land or water table once it is degraded, but we can alter slaughter house protocols and behaviour.

Heinrich Heine said “where they burn books, they will ultimately burn people” Sonofgloin said “where they mistreat animals they will ultimately mistreat people….does that clear up my views MA.

Morganzola:>>it's back to the ignore list for a while <<
Belly:>> no more attempts to get together lets leave it at that.<<

Belly, Zola is a zero, not an original thought. The Absinthe latte set scream pacifist but they employ the old "passive aggressive" strategy so as to maintain their air of civility while white anting your credibility away as a bully and a raving lunatic, an old ploy, Sun-Tzu mentions this tactic in his negotiation texts.

Consider this Belly, IMO the diatribe and ridicule that is thrown around OLO is an honest heartfelt expression of passion and commitment to your own philosophy. Whereas the passive aggressive does not get fired up, they choose their words carefully so as to ridicule but not offend in the accepted manner. There is no substance there; they are just a conduit for someone else.

Dear Zola banned me for an inference, nothing like what I say to you. Zola seen right through my passive aggressive attempt (I am not good at it) and banned me immediately, but the part that made me really laugh was the na na na na na epilogue Zola left me with:

>>” I was going to respond with more examples of just how wrong you are about the Greens and CSG, but after your last gratuitous insult I won't bother”.<<

Why I laughed out loud was because that line reminded me of Life of Brian. The part where Brian is hiding from the Romans amongst the street preachers, and as the Romans pass by he starts preaching to fit in, and as they go his last words are "and to them will be given" then he bolts. The masses then follow him on the promise of "given what"? Zola was going to give me what, what gems have I missed.

Zola's mentality of bartering with information must give you some idea of how many mice there are driving his/her cogs. I have said some atrocious things to you Belly, but you come back because it is about your philosophy not your sensibilities, don't worry mate, green riddance.

Got a bit passionate, lost a post, GY may be watching over my shoulder, joking.
SOG you shock me here,found both your posts informative well put together and not far wrong.
Now you have got me worried, I understand before you got in the tea party web you came from the left?
I did blocky not tall but big bloke I was active and used by them
You got it right, that control of thoughts and actions can be traced to Nazism Communism, and the failures known as Socialism.
Verbal arm over the shoulder think as I wish you to.
Avoid truth it serves no purpose.
And yes ask a few I am racist xenophobic a host of things because?
I insist /demand/ my position as one of the majority in this country not its flaky PC problem children.
My post history is the only me there is,stumbling over my own boots getting it right and wrong thinking unpleasant things like Muslims can be a problem.
Look at my relation ship with you, SM, about 5, but it is my fellow travelers who of late infer my education is the reason I think of the greens as Morris Dancers under a full moon trying to tell 88% of us we are strange.