kerryanne:"However, I would not P on you belly anti if your were on fire."

That's very reassuring. Thanks.

Can I be assured you won't P on my belly any other time either please? Having to ensure I "keep the fires burning" to avoid such a fate seems a bit extreme.

May please ask that posters for or against do not defend me from the abuse.
Norw just yet would I recommend deletion.
I blame in part myself.
Not for rudeness, but I in my honestly held opinion, still hold it, find great similarity's with this poster and a number who posted under PALE.
It to me, seems to be, in the very DNA in every thread tactics are exact, cuddle, beg, then insult.
Yabby some will note, is using the name Glennis, he used that name to a PALE poster.
Not sure about underbelly, but, came here about the same time.
And I have before, been targeted by a person new to the forum but not new to PALE.
I again and again said I would not reply to a poster, time and again ignored posts, Even blatant interventions in unrelated threads, one BEGGING ME TO RESPOND.
OLO is in my view bigger than me or any poster, I time and again put the hand of friendship out to those I should not.
Had every intention of continuing to talk to this poster in other threads, opened a door,to say ok lets talk but not here.
PUT ME to this test, read both car park threads ,each will lead to other threads, combative rude insistence on others doing as asked are there to see.
As for me let it lay please no further comments to this poster person or group.
Surely bit is my right to say that?

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/class-of-his-own-nile-pushes-for-ethics-review-20110803-1ibpk.html
This link is not about the greens.
It however is about one man, surely a minority.
And the power our current system gives him.
Many will not know our Fred.
He is no Saint, no tower of virtue.
We have, in NSW had many single Christian activists who indeed fitted that description.
Is Mise, a well respected poster sided with the shooters party, after I wrongly posted they are in this case the power behind Fred.
They said they would vote with him.
If their demands did not get addressed.
Turn Right Then Left has a thread active now.
In truth that thread ,now,in Australia, America, and Great Britain, never needed our attention more.
We are lost in a tower of Babble of our own making, fixed in to a my team always and ignore the impacts, seemingly death of Democracy nightmare.
No one man,should rule over us all, no ten .

Poirot,

Thank You for being decent enough to be fair. What you see being played out now & ongoing its unfair posting names of organizations *&!
peoples private names. I know I let myself down by my reply comment. Its not like me at all. I was so disgusted on top of the other lowness. I would like to explain more about my sister but I am going to do it off this site and post a link keeping it away.
Oh well, every one of these posts from that person is a vote for Tony i suppose. Possibly one of the best campaigns Tony has going:) I will leave the link explaining who Underbelly was a little later.
Kerry

I now stop posting in this thread, one I started.
Much could be said.
However I will not say it.
History has repeated its self those car park threads 100,s more, are in no way different than some here.
It will take strength, not cowardice, but I will continue to avoid threads that have been turned like milk left too long in the sun, to a smelly substance.
OLO is a good place so lets not descend in to dark places thanks to the contributors who came here to state an opinion.

Only 16 days ago, it seems like a year.
It never reached the level of discussion it could have, my fault too.
It ended as many past ones did with uncontrolled efforts to use it /the forum and me to get points not shared by all shoved down throats.
So what have I learned?
I could have been a diplomat, told white lies hidden my truly held concerns about the greens.
Stopped shedding Friends, by lying to them, pretending I think other than I do.
However every lesson is worth learning.
In this thread I re learn I can not bend to things I do not believe in.
And again, am reminded some people, at any cost, should be avoided.