sonofgloin,

I think both topics are worthy of proper attention but cruelty to our Australian farms animals is very different to controlling the rest of the world.

We have a duty of care t our own. Greens have been asking for common decency and AMIEU want the jobs back in Australia.
Any decent Australian would support that.

Now to the other-
Balance is the answer here- Personally and having some knowledge of whats going on i think the Prime Minister has shown great leadership by trying to work with Malaysia. As for Bellys fear of Muslims taking over I would say its justified . I do not agree with him however its their fault.
We bring these people here then dump them. Even if its in a 5* hotel its still dumping them. There are zero mandatory program's to learn to integrate. We walk on eggs shells around them and they think we don like them. Its the same with these Halal accreditation's the government allows them to do anything even ritual slaughter because they are gutless and scared of them. The dont want to say, do anything to upset. Result absolute disaster . As for men coming in on boats and leaving their wives an kids behind- my pet hate.

I support the greens and AMIEU its good to see AMIEU finally getting support .
UOG
Thanks for no interruption in the Halal thread-

Kerryanne, me thinks you had better be more careful in choosing your bed fellows.

The AMIEU were almost entirely responsible for destroying much of their industry. Funny how common this thread is with dying industries in advanced economies.

Then they were very good at ignoring any suffering in the bovines they slaughtered. They were not the least adverse to using the weapon that there were stock in abattoirs holding pens, with inadequate food or water to force employers to give in at the bargaining table.

If you want to be taken seriously, you have to be serious, & truthful. My enemy's enemy is my friend is not good enough, if you don't look at whom you would take as friend.

I found no link to the extremist Left wing union putting its own interests with the thread but no offense taken.
In this mornings Sydney daily Telegraph, you will not see it now, haveing been proved untrue the rant has been removed.
A story about congestion tax being put on motorists in city's got a run.
It is my opinion, honestly totally and without doubt, that paper will take any opportunity to insult the ALP or the Greens.
It did so this morning to both, as usual it ignored truth honesty balance and facts, in my opinion.
This is its usual way,any thing else is out of character.
however,worth noting, it is on the discussion table, no doubt a green put it there.
And such is why I have no time for them.
This policy, to tax car drivers truck drivers then us all, is pure blind madness.
It will not happen but now 10.000 noddy's forever think it will.
A clear headed look at inner city traffic can find answers, light rail, all we have room for now, fares at cost price will get people out of cars.
But middle to high income earners who never had to sit down the night before pay day and say is it milk or do we spend the last bread should be ashamed.

Belly,
You said "I think of the greens as Morris Dancers under a full moon trying to tell 88% of us we are strange."

That made me laugh because it is accurate, but only applies to one half of the Greens. The other half of the greens is pure socialist, who are intent on making us another third world country. You see these unwashed and unkempt rabble at violent demonstrations in our cities and who think they have a moral right to break our laws, like destroying experimental wheat plots and defacing the Opera House.

My dislike for the Greens is purely on their actions and policies.

For example their defence policy was for 'passive resistance' and do away with the ADF. In other words we lay in front of any invading tanks and hope they lose traction when they go over us!

They also wanted to decriminalise all drugs, lower the 'age of consent' to 14 and the voting age to 16. This has now been altered to 'giving the young a greater say in matters affecting them'.

A recent quick look at the greens policies show them now altered to be abstract and vague, so they can mean whatever the reader wishes. This is deceitfull and purely designed to fool people. They are not up front with their intent.

I think I am right in saying they only got their Senate seats on Labor preferences, at least originally, and they had a preference swap deal with Labor.

Now Labot members and supporters see them as a threat and not as the usefull idiots they once were.

Banjo it has been said, by informed people,the Socialists within the greens came from the ALP.
As hard as it is for some to understand, Socialism is not salable,to majority groups both sides of the fence.
It may well be Green peace and such protesters vote green, and that some are the unwashed Ferrel's you describe.
But for the most part I see the back bone of the greens as well meaning but totally out of touch.
Some fool in their party did put that tax mentioned above on the tax agenda.
The impacts are more unhappy with greens and Labor, and never a chance it was going to happen.
Many policy's have the same result in the end.
I share you view of the defense policy they lay claim to, and warn we fall if we stand alone.
Coal? good grief if we follow their wishes here we eat bread and dripping, first surely fund an alternative.
Truth is only some voters know much or care about politics, but it in the end is pure mathematics.
Chase more voters away than you attract and you fall over maybe for decades or even forever.

Great last couple of posts, it's refreshing to see people posting who see the 'Watermelons' for what they are.