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Posted by Kerryanne, Sunday, 31 July 2011 9:40:04 AM
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http://theconversation.edu.au/the-tasmanian-forest-agreement-too-close-to-collapse-2504
Well Ok Belly, I have posted a link of the Tasmanian Forest for your thread. Just a little suggestion when opening a thread if your clear about what it is the topics on. Something tells me this is not so much about the trees in Tasi and your dislike of the fact ALP share leadership with greens. You must remember without the greens they would not have been there. Most people actually wanted a liberal government. Also without the greens people would be screaming even louder. Also you say the greens- like the Democrats used similar power in GST Belly, the didnt use or abuse any power's. They had the right to those powers and a duty to decide one way or the other . Bob Brown is nothing like Andrew was. Sadly that party got dragged down over many years mostly imop because Andrew drank missed with only a bunch of veggies and worked with not everybody as he should. Now if you wish to stick to the topic of Tasi trees happy to. You have the info there now i posted. We cant keep just flogging our basic resources until there is nothing left. ALP are only as good as any other party. Its the people not the team. Its not a football game. Yours a short a few sheep in the paddock but some back benchers do have talent. Posted by Kerryanne, Sunday, 31 July 2011 9:47:03 AM
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Sorry KerryAnne but you never do your self any favors with that.
You will note I avoid you, others do too. In talking to you I broke a promise, tried one more time old mate to find common ground. You proved to me it is not possible, insulting me for returning to the threads subject? come old girl get your thinking hat on! Poirot, no, exactly the type of reply that has driven me in to the paddock furthest from the greens. KNOW I respect you, but also that as is my right, my every thought and idea is well thought out and never any form of blind or stubbornness. No pretense in me, I come from the beer and sausage sandwhich Australia. Not the café latte set the black and strong two sugar mob. My ideas and thoughts, as unpleasant as you find them, are not far from 88% of Australians. Friend, tell me, in what way is your thoughts both party's are unfit to rule different from my truly honestly held views. Why am I a blind uninformed Bigot, and you a well informed Modern voter, then why only 12%. Why is it ok for me to call for Gillards head, Abbott's downfall, but pure blindness to share middle Australia's view the Greens are as I say? My true regards Poirot but do not discount my ability to think. Posted by Belly, Sunday, 31 July 2011 2:08:30 PM
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Belly,
You do have a gift for overstatement at times. In no way do I think you're a blind uninformed bigot...and I'm a "disillusioned" voter, btw. I'm just intrigued by the vehemence of your antipathy towards the Greens. I'm a leftie (as you know) but, as I've said before, I can't see much left left in Labor. Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 31 July 2011 2:22:22 PM
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Belly,
I have no interest to even try to discuss the matter you brought up. I said you raised it because you did. 2 You say you’re going back to topic Ok fine, When are we going to start talking about the Tasmanian forest? 4 You say I insult you . I most certainly did not. If you open a discussion and I say I think ABC is wrong- or a few sheep short in the paddock then that’s my opinion of either a party- or person. If you can’t debate as an adult there is not point being on a forum. We all get it you don’t like ALP being in a joint leadership because pretty much that’s what it is. You say your a ALP supporter bag bad the PM I don’t care . Thats fine but without her dealings with the greens ALP would not have won the elections. Ever thought of that? She bargained and Tony Bargained with the Greens’ She won. She did that for ALP so maybe you should show a bit of respect. I have ever voted ALP. I voted Greens for the first time i changed from libs. However I would have been quite happy to vote ALP had ALP of being going to support the bills before [parliament. With my vote you can add at least two hundred thousand + that would have voted ALP for the first time. You asked who is ok giving greens power i senate- I am ALP need to get rid of a few very unprofessional ministers and staff and move some back benchers up Now when your ready we can talk about the trees in Tasi Ok Posted by Kerryanne, Sunday, 31 July 2011 2:44:18 PM
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KerryAnne at this time I can not muster the calmness needed to push threads so far away from the intended course.
Now say I was posting in one of yours. And attempted to move it so very far away from animal welfare Halal Live exports. I rest my case. Sorry Poirot, if you heard average Aussies in the lunch room, the pub, streets, my views would look like calm response. I truly, am not heated, no sweat on the brow,not unhappy, even saw my team just get flogged, very poor effort. But yes it is how I think. Now here on record,I think, that I know, Greens are even more on the nose than Labor right now. I further think we will see this at every election state or federal for some years. Posted by Belly, Sunday, 31 July 2011 5:06:11 PM
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This is what Belly posted in his thread asking me to reply to-
Labor has been behind much of that change and for the better.
Remember we, even you in some posts say it, need to import workers.
5% unemployment is near full employment, Industry shakes in fear if that number gets too low, wages rises come with shortage of workers.
The live export cattle are not Australian butcher shop meat.
Not yet processed meat either.
One day a combination of west coast or NT processing and live exports will being the norm, not yet.
Halal remains a market we are involved in and it will grow.
I truly think the damage done to Australian exporters ,the live export trade , was bad.
This country may ride on miners backs today but exporting primary produce will always be of special interest.
I will return to green subject next post, putting rolled up news papers under my jumper ready for the boots for holding opinions!
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 30 July 2011 5:21:59 PM
Kerryanne spent half an hour replying
So yes Belly do return to what YOU put on the thread.; Now you asked me- I replied.
If you cant debate something dont raise it
Sorry belly but that was very rude of you.