Nicky]
I am now Why on earth hasnt your buddies PETA targetted 'them' - I wonder?

Probably afraid to upset some of their high profile members and supporters I suppose.

Money again probably
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Monday, 16 June 2008 8:58:09 PMIf you believe in something you must stand up for it and whats right. WHY hasnt anybody other than pale pointed a fingure at the discusting leadship by our Churches leaders ignoring God Creatures. Why just us.Oh Hugh actually said something. GOOD ON HIM FOR THAT!

This is what I a said- Again.=

Why on earth hasnt your buddies PETA targetted 'them' (Church leaders) - I wonder?

Probably afraid to upset some of their high profile members and supporters I suppose.

Money again probably wonder if your backward because you KEEP implying I have posted something I have not.
I said NOTHING about Hughs Pay Packet. You just dishonest. Everytime your cornered you change my comments around to suit yourself in the hope others have not read them- or think they have misunderstood

Hi all

PALE. What can I say? Your OWN words, on this thread:-

"Iam just wondering what type of snake in the grass would behave in such a manner, or should I say ‘snakes’. Gee I wonder if Hughs Government pay check has something to do with it. They are so friendly with Elders and other low life live shipping agents it makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up".

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=1780&page=0#38564

You should be more careful about the allegations you make, particularly when they are without any apparent foundation

I have no idea why PETA or any of the other established groups you mention have not taken the churches to task, but as I said, I know of a couple of groups which have and do.

NOW can you please answer my questions?

Nicky

The facts again you distort. In that post its clear I was refering the the fact that RSPCA CEOs and Inspectors wages are paid for between the Federal and State Governments.
Thats is simple a fact of life . Also cars , holidays are paid for by Government the last time somebody made enquires.
Personally I dont care what others do but you lot are so desperate to interfear with our work.
You oppose pale because we work towards reopening abattoirs to faze out live exports.
Thats really confusing as most web pages read= Replace Live with chilled. Its also dishonest.
We we have it in black and white from all the major players thats pales projects = dont fit in - under their umbrella- Umm umbrellas because of their involment in reopening abattoirs.

So why dont you all stop lying to the public and state your real agenda. Your holding animal welfare back and causing animals to suffer. The Government then brand everybody as extreme.

You know Nicky we were warned about a certain persons attitute that she 'had to be seen as the only person doing something the help animals' years ago.
We were warned people like you would haunt us and we would be hated if we actually came up with a sensible alternative.

We were also told then that person would try to jump in and copy us and take the credit.
She I am told they nearly had a FIT when we decided to work in conjunction with RSPCA QLD.

Since then much time was spent to achieve likewise. Wow after twenty years- what leadership.? Of course its the same thing with Muslim leaders but they made a huge hash of that.

You Nicky Your worse by far. You are I am sad to say someone nobody wants anything to do with. I once pleaded your case years ago believe it or not. Because I saw some protectial in you but everyone said the same.
Unfortunetly your personality destroys any good intentions to help animals.

It also discredits others like AA and pETA

Another thing Nicky
We were requested weeks ago not to have any futher discussions with you by our lawyers. To a point i ignored that once again thinking despite your personality you care for animals.
Your comments are now on record with our lawyer who reads this slight on a daily basis.
A phone call confirms this morning that is now a direction . So we will not be responding to you at all in the future. I think GY has also warned you and punished you in the past for breaking forum rules.
I have at times as well be guilty of responding to you in an angry manner. I regret that.
Please note if you contiune to try to defame pale he wont sit back this time. Your comment that we support FGM is still on record and you did not apoligise. Despite causing upset with our Muslim friends and co workers.
I think you had best consider your own postion if you persist but most of all the damage your doing to all animal welfare groups and the poor animals.

Why dont you do something for the animals instead of using olo to try to make yourself look something your not.- sensible.

Help RSPCA clean out cages feed and take dogs for a walk or something.

They need all the help they can get with so many animals being dumped.

Dear me, PALE. Where to start.

1. Your post, with the link provided says no such thing. It is a direct assertion about Hugh (Wirth), and you know it.

2. You did not know me "years ago", so you cannot possibly have had discussions with anyone about me, and I can assure you that I can lay claim to far better credentials in the movement than you can. Nor can I imagine any circumstances under which I would EVER want PALE to "plead my case" - please NEVER do so again, I wouldn't want to be guilty by association.

3. You cannot even answer a series of perfectly simple inoffensive questions without threatening to bring on "the lawyers". The only people who want nothing to do with me is/are PALE (unless, of course, the "team of lawyers" is serious about thinking it has a prayer if it tries to take me on. But please do go ahead).

3. Graham Young suspended you for 24 hours at the same time as he suspended me (speaking of distortions), nor was I "warned" as such. How many times under its names has PALE been suspended and/or had posts deleted? I have only had that one suspension, at your instigation, no doubt, because it is your method of refusing to answer straight questions. Rather cowardly, I suggest.

4. I never at any time said that PALE "supported FGM", and you know it. You rebuked me for speaking out against it because you thought it would alienate Muslims. Those are the facts of the matter. Here, you state again "causing upset with our Muslim friends and co workers", so clearly one is not allowed to speak out against the practice as far as PALE is concerned.

(Continues)

Nicky

5. You continue to libel and damage every other organization and people in them, while accusing me of doing just that. Can you not see that? Do you ever re-read your own posts? Everyone is wrong except you. Does it not occur to you that this is why people want nothing to do with you?

6. Before you "pick up your bat and ball" and run off in a tantrum, please answer the questions I have asked so repeatedly.

Now, of course, because of your ongoing abuse, which has seen everyone else leave this thread, it will probably be closed down. Typical. THAT's how much PALE HELPS ANIMALS.

Nicky