Yabby - "Err Nicky, you mean like the 142 people who turned up at your
great big demonstration?"

HAHAHA! Tell us more about this huge demonstration Yabby, it sounds like a corker.

Oh, those details are all in the OLO archives somewhere. Last
November, I read on the AA website, about a "National Day of
Protest" or whatever they called it, about the live trade. I
never heard a thing about it in the press, so I asked Nicky how
many went. She said 142, or it could have been 146. I nearly
fell off my chair lol.

Now what is happening is that a small band are virtually blackmailing
stores into making statments against mulesing, by threatening their
brands. Even those who don't sell wool!

Watch the propaganda machine, that is how they operate.

Next they tell us, as to how many stores won't buy wool from mulesed
sheep. Yet when Elders held an auction last week of 1600 bales
of wool from non mulesed sheep, there was little actual interest
in the marketplace.

So what it comes down to is a small fanatical group, making a huge
racket, trying to use the internet etc, to promote their propaganda.

All Dickie's efforts to blacken Australia's name with her video
have landed up causing an Islam/anti Islam argument, nothing
to do with Australia at all!

Fact is, that if you want to improve slaughter methods in the ME,
so install some proper eequipment there, its not rocket science.

Fact is, if you really don't want sheep to go on boats, then have
a competitive meat industry in WA, which is not the case now.

But these people so hate farmers, they would rather try to send
farmers broke, so they continue with their propganda and never let
truth get in the way of their stories.

No No Nicky
Not so fast to change the subject. Pls have the manners to reply as you raised the above issues.=

Nicky said
1* we have a commonality of philosophy which is not shared by PALE*.
Pale asks
What would that be, vegetarians perhaps? Please reply by a simple YES or NO
Nicky said
3.*I have no information on what your definition of "blacklisting"*
pale asks
Should you have? What are you Nicky the Animal Welfare police. So you want to know what evidence we have. May I ask why this is of such great interest ?
Nick said
7.* If you want any of these people to enter debates with you you should stop libeling*
May I take it you posted that on Authority Nicky?

Nick said =

If you don't raise funds, why do you have a Paypal link on the website to which you endlessly direct us all?

pale replies
I will answer that question as you posted not long ago about the personyou claimed sold house and moved to hide from us - or words to that effect.
I put it to you Nicky that you are well aware that a person acting as a volunteer set up that petition.
The fact is ( as I suspect you are aware) that pale has no control over that site what so ever.

That is despite having been screwed for two hundred dollars PER MONTH to keep it up.
We choose to keep it up because its such a good petition.

The lady that hosts the site is in USA and REFUSES to give us our own pass words or details despite the fact we own the name pale which is a registered NFP organisation.

So in other words we have got ZERO.





So are you saying Andrew did lodge them under PALE?

Interesting - but does it matter. You see Nicky unlike yourself we are not trouble makers. I am well aware of the Germann connection- speaking of petitions and online fund raising.

However we prefer to focuss on the animals- unlike you.

Hi all

Yabby, you typically failed to mention that 140-odd people gathered was in one suburb of one regional town. But you would, of course.

And haven't we, the Australian taxpayers, already paid for slaughtering equipment in the Middle East which, it has been proven, is never used?

PALE
1. I did reply. Once again, my dietary preferences are none of your business

2. You're telling the story about the petition, not I. I asked you to either post the Hansard link for the PALE (not Animals Australia) petition being tabled - or even the date - but you appear to be unable to do so. So I am forced to conclude that the only petition that has been tabled is the Animals Australia one, which has been tabled several times by Andrew Bartlett (not a PALE one, unless you can provide the information asked for)

3. I have absolutely no idea what volunteer you are talking about. If someone else was responsible for that petition and PALE has nothing to do with it, should you be claiming the credit for it and referring the world at large to it?

4. If you do in fact own the petition and are paying for its hosting, why has your "team of lawyers" (not to mention the QC) not been able to challenge these circumstances under international private law?

5. I am not particularly interested in the "blacklisting" issue - it is simply that you keep raising it as part of your efforts to discredit Animals Australia

6. The Paypal link does not only appear on the petition site, it also appears on the main PALE website. (At least it does not appear on the HKM website!). That rather shoots down any claims that you do not raise funds. The question is, what do you do with them?

7. I have no idea what the German connection is - except that I know Animals Angels is a German group. Did they refuse to work with you too?

Nicky

"All Dickie's efforts to blacken Australia's name with her video
have landed up causing an Islam/anti Islam argument, nothing
to do with Australia at all!"

Pathetic try Yabby and it is not "my" video and oh boy have you got a sweat up.

You ain't seen nuthin' yet and I remind you it's the degenerates in Australia who send defenceless live animals to the Middle East and South East Asia.

Shortly I will be alerting posters to Australia's penchant for vivisection - 6 million animals in 2004, tortured and tormented in the most unimaginable way and the majority of vivisections were performed for?

You guessed it. The agricultural industry!

Taxpayers money is being spent on a cabal of gluttonous, sadistic thugs whose conceit and arrogance borders on madness. Just have a look at the lunatics on this thread.

And more Karmic forces working against this industry as I see pirates fired shots at the live export thugs on the MV Heresford this week and put it out of action. Dear me, what a tragedy.

dickie - "whose conceit and arrogance borders on madness. Just have a look at the lunatics on this thread."

What a very true description of yourself and nicky. You missed a few things out of the description of yourselves: gullible, naive, fanatical, extremist, liars, pathetic, uninformative, brash, childish and last but not least, LOSERS!