"Dickie, you will notice that I am totally ignoring the usual ignorant abuse from myopinion; it is simply not worth a response."

Good one Nicky. Perhaps it's worked. He's not been on this thread since early this morning. Wow!

This sooky can't cope with rejection and I suspect he's in the bath tub trying to drown his rubber ducky.

Yes, Dickie, but he and his equally amoral mate are continuing to be super-vocal on the other one. Mention the odd case and they accuse you of over-generalizing and bring in the poor old Catholic Church (!! relevance?)

It seems that they much prefer torturing animals with the most painful suffering and deaths possible rather than look for a way of alleviating that. Surely all the agricultural experts (vivisectionists) at the CSIRO should be able to come up with something less morally abhorrent than the current crop of lethal baits. Bit I think they should test them on farmers.

Yabby thinks that because his dogs are slightly more fortunate than most that all are treated the same.

Cheers for now,
Nicky

*Surely all the agricultural experts (vivisectionists) at the CSIRO should be able to come up with something less morally abhorrent than the current crop of lethal baits. Bit I think they should test them on farmers.*
Goday everbody
Nicky you have already been told what works. So you could have said Surely CSIRO can come up with a gentic saffron. Actually Nicky dont hold your breath. The producer of 1080 has a board who has a big say where their research funds are spent. They will look after the share holders into that company first.
Recall however that the top man was personally very interested.

Gave him some details and hope he went to see the farmers before they passed over. Apparently they were elderly. I was told by the farmer who gave us the information they first gave it to AA but they showed no interest.

So we wrote to AA about this also. I guess its hard when you have so many projects and just so many people to do it.

Still I hope AA oneday look at that as well as our invitation to discuss gas plants for larger animals that we put to them also.

Like them we cant work on everything at once.
Perhaps we can look forward to better results in the future.

I sure hope so for the sake of the animals

Mention the odd case and they accuse you of over-generalizing and bring in the poor old Catholic Church (!! relevance?)

Nicky the relevance is clear. We need to do something about the over population of people in the world which increases the demands of animals to be slaughtered.

I cant understand why you cant see the relavance in that statement.
Needless to say we need to tun a world wide campange again the dam Churches silence toward animal cruelty.

If you believe in something you must stand up for it and whats right. WHY hasnt anybody other than pale pointed a fingure at the discusting leadship by our Churches leaders ignoring God Creatures. Why just us.Oh Hugh actually said something. GOOD ON HIM FOR THAT!

So there is the relevance in mentioning the Catholic Church and ALL Churches leaders and Churches.

Why on earth hasnt your buddies PETA targetted 'them' - I wonder?

Probably afraid to upset some of their high profile members and supporters I suppose.

Money again probably

Hi all

PALE, are you ever going to provide answers to my questions? You did say that if I raised things you "answered honestly". I'm waiting for evidence of that.

Do you have scientific evidence about "genetic saffron"? I'm quite sure that more than one company manufactures and distributes 1080, as well.

As for the relevance of the Catholic Church, I doubt if its policies on contraception have reached the ears of the people to whom you refer. They probably haven't even heard of the Catholic Church and most likely don't contribute a whole lot to the slaughter of animals either. As for no-one taking the churches to task about their poor attention to the plight of animals, I know of at least two groups who are doing just that, with the various churches in Australia and overseas. And that's besides Hugh Wirth.

You should also check your facts about Hugh Wirth's "government pay check" (sic). I think you'll find that he may get some sort of honorarium from his RSPCA/WSPA activities, but otherwise, so far as I know, his income derives from his own veterinary practice.

So you haven't really done any trailblazing there, I'm afraid.

Nicky

+I can just imagine Glenys Ooojges needing PALE's advice on petitions and other political matters too.+
Then I suggest you ask Her to come on OLO and deny what I said Nicky. Its about time Ingred came on here also and debated us face to face. Frankly your doing far more damage by making comments for them. Its simply awful what you are doing to Animals Australia PETA and all organisations.
You havent stopped bitching and moaning about pale in two years.

I have said before both on and off OLO you have IMOP a mental problem. Despite your best efforts to convince yourself you are somebody of authority and or knowledge your totally lost.
Its clear to anybody on OLO you know zero about stock but you wont listen to people who do.

I have tried really hard to respond to you with respect for a fellow animal lover however its useless.
The only time you run is when people give you back what you dish out such has been seen on the peta thread in the last week or so.

Nicky if there are another few hundred people trying to help animals thats better than nothing.
EVEN if those people acheived nothing thats no reason to be so nasty.

At least they tried in their own time with their OWN money so why dont you to be blunt stop being such a bitch.

For once in your life REALLY think what you are doing to hurt Animals and poor old Animals Australia and PETA.

Dear God Nicky you have turned animal welfare into a mockery and you dont even see it.
If you wont listen to us then listen to everybody else.

They are all telling you the same thing.