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Posted by Flo, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 9:56:48 AM
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Tony,s rollback is a stuped thing to say. industry is now confused.
Posted by a597, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 10:40:02 AM
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One of the most important things about pricing carbon is that it has the support of industry; there's of course a few who disagree, as 100% agreement on any policy issue is impossible.
Industry knows, as sure as day follows night, that prices for commodities like fuel and electricity are rising RIGHT NOW, and they have been for quite some time, and will continue to do so. By pricing carbon, the eventual cost of these commodities in future decades will be significantly LESS than what they otherwise will be. If we do nothing, we will eventually pay higher prices for our food, entertainment, fuel, clothes, medical treatment, electricity etc. Industry recognises this, and this is the reason they broadly support pricing carbon. And just like the climate change deniers, carbon price deniers can always quote one or two industry people who think as they do on the subject of carbon pricing. Believe it or not there's STILL a handful "experts" who deny that smoking tobacco causes cancer. The fact is that pricing carbon has broad industry support, therefore the real debate lies in not whether or not we should have it, the debate is how it's implementation should be handled. Tony Abbott supports carbon pricing one day, then the next day is against it. Tony Abbott's stance on the subject matter is 100% politically based, depending on whether or not it advantages him and the Coalition politically at the time: Politics first, Australia second. Posted by Joanme, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 12:23:09 PM
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As Abbott said He will do anything to be Prime Minister I assume that means he will prostitute himself in any way he can to achieve him ambition. I can't support some defrocked catholic priest! Or what ever he is.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 1:27:49 PM
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Joame,
If it has the support of industry, please feel free to name those industries or industry groups that support this tax. I think you will find the list very thin. http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2011/s3151432.htm The farmers and small business will not get compensated and will lose business to imports. Only the big emitters will be compensated. The latest polling seems to indicate that the majority of Australians don't want a tax on their lifestyle either. Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 1:29:31 PM
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BlueScope Calls Australia Carbon Tax Plan ‘Economic Vandalism’
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-27/carbon-tax-economic-vandalism-for-australia-bluescope-steel-chief-says.html Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 1:31:10 PM
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Exciting news is not it.
Most will recall that intensive negotiations was carried out with all branches of business and other interested parties before the previous scheme, you know, the one Mr. Rudd presented to parliament.
It is sad that owing to a very obstinate man, who cannot make up his mind and is a little pig headed, the process has to be gone through again. It is not hard to work out that the government cannot released the details until this occurs again.
I am not to sure what “under one god” is on about, I denied that the PM was a saint. I would like to add, that not having belief in religion bars you from doing good. Whether the PM has been sent or what she has set out to do, is little more than semantics.
It is about time poor have their day, even if many of the wealthy feel they have been unfairly treated. How do they, the wealthy, explain how in this country and the USA, the distribution of wealth between the top ten percent growing dramatically at the expense of the lower eighty percent.
You might noticed that petrol and power is getting expensive and will continue to do so, regardless what is done about climate change. I, am one that believes the situation will be worse if we do not address climate change.
I agree only fools vote or pay for good will. We seem to agree.