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Behind Gillards back flip

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With the result of the election being a hung parliament, and government being formed with the Greens and Independents, what Labor intended to do became impossible. PM Gillard, I believe made the right decision to adopt the Greens plan, which is similar to what Labor wanted. What is different is the mechanism to reach an ETS in three to five years. I believe that many years have been wasted and it is time for industry and Australia for this matter to be put to bed.
PM Gillard could have because of stupid, unnecessary promise, not accepted the Greens realistic answer to climate change to save face. This would have been the wrong decision for Australia.
The question I am asking, when the present outcry settles is whether they would like to see the carbon tax dropped and no climate change action because of the perception that the PM lied. What is the most important thing to happen now, no climate change action or accept that the PM changed her mind.
Is the alleged lie important enough to demand that the PM resigns. Do we really expect all promises made during an election are kept without changes after the elections. Do we expect that the promises be kept, even if things change down the track, the promises no longer being relevant.
Does it warrant the country going back to an unnecessary election. The carbon tax is not to be introduced for another 17 months. A lot can happen in that time. I say this because all that has been announced is an outline of what is to be put in place. There will be more community and business consultation before the final legalisation is bought before parliament.
Posted by Flo, Monday, 28 February 2011 10:47:06 AM
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Hasbeen:

The end may well be in sight, but the question is, "For Whom?"
As long as personal ambitions, divisiveness, and dis-unity play a bigger part than unity, leadership, and sound policies in party politics - they will eventually disintegrate. And at present there's very few reasons for anyone to feel smug. We have to wait and see in which direction things will move. Everyone needs to lift their game.
Posted by Lexi, Monday, 28 February 2011 10:48:38 AM
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This morning a man I have the highest regard for Tony Windsor was interviewed live on ABC news 24.
He was worth hearing.
He said Tony Abbott during negotiations to form government said HE WOULD DO ANYTHING TO GET POWER, ANY THING.
Sorry Paul but greens did it again yesterday, tax on petrol how truly stupid!
Windsor reminded us all, no tax has yet been announced, he not Gillard warned the greens if they went too hard no deal will come.
Gillard is a failure BUT SHE KNOWS she must not be spooked by the push bike brigade.
Crimson long way to the front gate on some farms.
579 1970,s
why say it, first became a delegate in 1962 jolls Bridges Sydney to Newcastle expressway, K D Morris from QLD, then Munmorra power station.
Never ever in my whole life saw thuggery from my union.
Saw it even now from left wing lunatics who are dieing , AWU is not copping that slander while I live.
I came here to tell it as it is Gillard is fighting hard and will not win, she however never lied, she never knew a hung Parliament would stop her.
If the best conservatives can do is on display here they have no claims at all to lead this country.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 28 February 2011 11:28:56 AM
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Flo,

An ETS is also a tax on carbon. People pay for a licence to pollute which goes to state revenues. This is similar to the mining royalties, they are all different types of tax. Juliar knows this and again is trying to lie her way out of a corner.

Juliar did not just make a flippant remark, she made a promise, a pledge, she gave us her word and honour that she would not impose a carbon tax. Breaking her promise to all of Australia makes her word worthless.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 28 February 2011 12:46:08 PM
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SM.

What the PM has done is introduced a two stage plan for a introducing a carbon price mechanism.

The PM has reneged on the promise not to bring in a carbon tax.

The PM has kept her promise to bring in a market based charge on carbon.
Posted by Flo, Monday, 28 February 2011 3:06:32 PM
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Flo,

The ETS is a tax on carbon, and everyone but the most ardent Labor tragics know this. A carbon tax is a simplified ETS.

Juliar promised no tax on carbon and broke it. To try and claim that she meant an ETS instead is just digging the hole deeper, and fooling no one.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 28 February 2011 3:34:54 PM
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