Joanme,

By your own figures about 25% of business supports the carbon tax.

The Chairman of BHP might support a carbon tax, but with its oil and gas for whom the consumer will pay the tax, PHP is largely unaffected. Notably none of the other mining giants have supported it.

Blue scope steel, Australia's last steel maker has called the carbon tax Economic vandalism, as its main competitor is China who has no carbon tax.

I personally believe that a carbon tax is necessary, but that unilateral action is not warranted, and would cripple the last remnants of manufacturing in this country.

It would be good if even those who oppose everything I say could take a minute this morning.
Find the oline issue of the Sydney morning Herald.
Read the piece from that papers political Editor.
We, every one of us, need to see it is getting very near fact.
Australian politics is generating HATE.
That story includes DEATH THREATS to Tony Windsor.
What has happened to our country?
And a report,please consider,Tony Abbott,not little in statue but in thought and actions.
Has told his team to concentrate on Labor!
Not be side tracked by their own individual THOUGHTS ON CLIMATE CHANGE!
Who then is acting in the Nations interest?
I am no saint,vote Labor and fear the greens, I truly fear the radicalization in that party.
I am on record saying the NSW ALP is dead by its own hand and actions.
I deeply feel middle Australia agrees with me.
BUT dog whistle politics,death of truth politics is bringing and end to my country's basic foundation fair go mate.
IF Tony Abbott had cobbled together government he this morning would be told, oh yes he would,he is working on behalf of the real Prime Minister Bob Brown.
Because like Gillard he would have to deal with them and he is on record saying he would do any thing to get power.
Within the heart of this country on every side is a fear of the greens.
Abbott however is the very real danger to our way of life.

Here you all go bleating about carbon dioxide when it may well turn
out that the IPCC says whoops when they rerun their computer model
against realistic data.

You are wasting your time.
bye.

Until there is an agreement amongst the large polluters, a Carbon tax in Australia is not in the country's interest. Juliar is perfectly aware of this, which is why she personally persuaded Rudd to drop the ETS after the debacle in Copenhagen.

This carbon tax has nothing to do with the nation's welfare, rather political convenience and Labor's welfare.

Bazz you are without doubt a good man, but your post clearly trys to end a discussion.
I KNOW AND YOU DO NOT, is what your statement says.
Maybe we always have been divided,maybe the net has just let us say it to more, letters to the editor attract, always have,weird views.
You side step the whole point of this thread, the threats, the lies crafted and put together by Abbott and his team.
You Dennie climate change yet surely,, only the reason for it is up for debate.
You then use the very body that is warning us ,to degrade my right to an opinion.
Is Gillard feisty, is she our first female PM, is she nice, brave because she knew telling us the Truth,that she is not a believer in God, yes to all.
Did she lie,did she know that day she would confront a hung Parliament and change her mind?
Did she handle the issue poorly,YES
Did she play a suspected role in stopping Rudd bring in the ETS, MY view yes.
Will she be replaced in time over this event, yes in my view.
Is that fair? no.
Is the tax fixed yet, can anyone say how much it is, who understands it will take till mid next year after talks consultations and dealings to put a price on Carbon.
I challenge you Bazz, tell me I do not have the right to my view tell me we do not have climate change what ever its reasons.
And in these very hard times, that may well remove the federal ALP look at the fear and lies coming from conservatives.
Tell me their plan is not to tax us ,tell me it is not to reward business, and tax P. A.Y.E
Tell me I am open to learning Tony Abbott is not lieing to us all.

Question time and today events need us all to look understand just how bad this country's public politics has become.
I do not like Gillard, but in comparison to Abbott's hit squad she is statesman like.
Today conservatives your side of the house said she is as bad as the idiot leader of Libya!
A BOLD LIE.
No longer is the debate about Gillard and a perceived lie it is a question how much lower ,how many more lies will Abbott's team deliver?