That's right Flo. I think the Coalition is digging it's own grave with the abuse tactics they consistently use. In the Senate today there was a censure motion against the government and in the ensuing debate all the Liberal Senate leader could offer was immature, personal abuse, delivered with feigned angst.

The Coalition should have won the last election, and I think they lost because of the personal abuse tactic they use. If more people had thought they had suitable policies, then they would have been voted in. With a person like Malcolm Turnbull as leader, the Coalition would have managed that election in a traditional decent Liberal way, and likely would have won the election. But the rather immature Tony Abbott and his small band of abusers took control of Liberal tactics, resulting in an election loss, that should have been an election victory.

If you look at Julia Gillard's parliamentary performance, it's obvious she's having an easy time because all she has to do is argue Labor policy against consistent Coalition personal abuse.

The Australian voters aren't stupid. Come next election the recent Labor deserters will certainly return and deliver a majority Labor win. I feel the only chance for the Coalition is to get rid of the small band of immature Coalition bully boys, and replace them with mature men and women who are capable of debating and developing policy.

I wish it was true joanme.
It is not.
Voters do vote based on the verbage used by Abbott too.
Look this morning at news footage from Lybia, see the flag of the madman flying in the hands of his victims.
Flo, I have great mates on the left, I too have seen teenagers schooled to not fix chains properly, so things would fall from cranes ,so walk outs could take place.
I have seen dreadful bosses too, but that is another subject.
The very left may abandon Labor,but in doing so entrench conservative rule, as sure as the DLP did.
Last night I watched Q and A wrong subject was waiting for tonights ABC story but it was about this subject.
And one note Ackerman? gee he just may be SM.
Do not turn Gillard in to a saint she never was or will be one.
She is feisty a fighter and cornered come back hard.
And she can out box boxer Abbott every day.
But so could many.
A tweet last night asked why Turnbull and Shorten could not lead their party's.
Another reminded us all to forget the costs concentrate on the reasons.
Climate change if we do not act will cost this country more than acting ever can.
Gillard is swimming only because Abbott is leading, she and he, will go,it may well be this matter that removes both.

Belly. I do not think PM Gillard is a saint, that is one of the reasons I like her.
Belly, I would not give up on the Australian people, I give them more credit than that. It is my observation that many are switched off and the present gyrations by some politicians is being ignored or not noticed. Many such as us are mistaken in the belief that the vast majority is the voice being heard in the public arena, in reality it is a minute number. How these people will reaxt if and when they choose to take notice is unknown.
I do not agree that Mr. Shorten will be leader, and I would be surprised if many in the Labor Party thought so. Mr. Combet will be the man after PM Gillard has done what she has set out to do.
My deceased mother and her family used to earn a living by running small bakeries and eateries. She and her father use to mouth advice about running these types of business. Only fools pay for goodwill, as it is something you have to earn for yourself, build up the business and stay in for no longer than four years. The reasoning for this was that there is only so much you can give business and if you have not done it in that time, it will be down hill for the business. I think the same goes for governments and leaders. I like the USA idea of only allowing Presidents two terms.

Mr Turnbull's answers and demeanour last night was a little puzzling, He seems to be in a teasing mood, stirring the pot, as much against Mr. Abbott as Labor.
Yes, bad unions but also many a death from bosses cutting corners through pure greed or just bloody mindness.

could i make a tiny change to your words flo?

only fools *vote for goodwill

i will note two other quotes of yours
and try to refrain from making further comment

..."PM Gillard is a saint"",
the first athiest saint...lol

""Mr. Combet will be the man"
loll that replaces the wo-man?

...""after PM Gillard *has done
what she has set out to do"

i would rather say
done what she was sent in to get done..!

but all in all
you only get the leaders others will chose

they win
we loose

..""It is my observation that many are switched off
and the present gyrations by some politicians
**is being ignored or not noticed**. ""

you can chose to think so
and heck you may be right

but when their smokes get too expensive

when their petrol
..water and power bills get too EXPENSIVE
and govt has sent them broke

do you still think
then
*..that the will not notice?

..""Many such as us are mistaken in the belief
that the vast majority is the voice being heard in the public arena, in reality it is a minute number.""

yes so true..

.."How these people will react
if and when ..they choose to take notice is unknown.""

or dear flo
you must have noticed
the many people in the streets..GLOBALLY..?

this is a global..[globilists]scam
the poop *will hit the fan

its not a matter of how
but only a matter of when

the rich forcing the poor to pay
will soon have had its day

i know no-one
goes to the links
so just read the words

and weep*

asking others
the sheeple..to wake-up
is futile*

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/global-economy-23-facts-which-prove-that-globalism-is-pushing-the-standard-of-living-of-the-middle-class-down-to-third-world-levels

Walker Losing Control and Getting Desperate-
Bolting Windows Shut to Starve Out Protesters

"Walker Welding Capitol Windows NOW
to Keep Workers from Passing Food to Those Inside"
http://www.squattable.com/news/022811/walker-losing-control-and-getting-desperate-bolting-windows-shut-starve-out-protesters
"Breaking News:
Gov Walker seems to have lost control of everyone
but the welders"

http://saladin-avoiceinthewilderness.blogspot.com/2011/02/purpose-of-state-is-to-turn-you-into.html
[a machine]

Thom Hartmann asks - Which one of these people can the American people no longer afford to support with their tax dollars?

The Wall Street executives and major Republican donors who gambled with OUR money and swindled our nation into a depression?

Or the teachers in Wisconsin - minor but not irrelevant Democratic donors - who educate thousands of our children and prep them for jobs in the future?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAy2-SAun4k&feature=player_embedded

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/02/financial-industry-has-become-so.html

http://www.squattable.com/news/022811/budget-crisis-my-ass-we-have-refusal-2-levy-adequate-taxes-those-can-afford-it-crisis

http://dailybail.com/home/pissed-off-irishman-talks-bankster-bailouts-greed-greed-chea.html

if you have “one dollar” in your wallet, you’re paying more than the “combined income tax liability of GE, ExxonMobil, Citibank, and the Bank of America“:

[Gibson] explains, “I have one dollar in my wallet. That’s more than the combined income tax liability of GE, ExxonMobil, Citibank, and the Bank of America. That means somebody is gaming the system.”
http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2011/02/report-you-have-more-money-in-your.html

http://dailybail.com/home/14-million-per-page-how-ireland-paid-merrill-lynch-for-advic.html

http://dailybail.com/home/will-bernanke-scoop-up-50-billion-of-irelands-toxic-assets-f.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361316/250bn-wind-power-industry-greatest-scam-age.html

http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=90
sheep dont help other sheep
they all get slaughterd
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14142

http://redactednews.blogspot.com/2011/02/gates-foundation-controls-media-through.html
Gates Foundation
As Does Israel
Controls Media Through Massive Journalism Grants
By: tyler durden

(NaturalNews) Most major newspapers and media outlets in the world are owned by a handful of multinational corporate giants, who together control the content of what is distributed to the masses.

But a recent report in The Seattle Times questions the influence the world's most powerful foundation, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF), has on the media as well

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/03/this-is-what-dictators-are-really-scared-about/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=gizmodo

http://uruknet.com/?p=m75413&hd=&size=1&l=e

Juliar is claiming industry support, but her erstwhile ally Heather Ridout of the AIG has abandoned her.

"But Ms Ridout, the Australian Industry Group chief executive, last night declined to back Ms Gillard's proposal to introduce a fixed carbon price from July 1 next year and an emissions trading scheme three to five years later.

"The jury is very much still out on the introduction of a carbon price in Australia, with industry very concerned about the competitive impacts," Ms Ridout said.

"In this regard, all options should still be on the table, including that of rollback until the final shape of the government's proposal is clear."

The reality is that there are a few industries backing the carbon tax, those being ones that can either simply pass on the tax to consumers, or those only slightly affected.

This tax will raise the cost of electricity, the cost fuel, and as a result, the cost of producing and distributing food, and pretty much the cost of everything.