I will look a little deeper at the subject than you Shadow Minister.
See I am a gardener,very much more so now I have retired.
Sat/Sunday early morning off to the market days.
I look at the spot I am to plant in, pitch fork it over think about what is going there and plant, I get results.
I support carbon reduction, strongly firmly, but Not Gillard at all.
I truly believe she did not want to raise pensions, spoke against it, and that she gave too much back to miners to look good.
I think she has as much, maybe more blood on her hands for the FAILURE of the Rudd government.
I doubt she is able to do what john Howard always did, milk his Coalition partners dry to the point of owning them.
He turned the Country party in to the Nationals, in an effort to survive bush peoples views laying down to Liberals had turned that party from a country one to a miners one.
Again if only we knew what Abbott offered greens, we know what he offered the Tasmanian who finished third but won his seat.
Remember SM 3 men stood against Nationals being Liberals property, they are the back bone of this government.
As honest and no different than they ever have been, mud sticks but mostly to those who throw it.
In time, not long to wait, Abbott will be gone, Gillard too, I await your comments about little man Tony then

more info behind the backflip?
on landline[next week]
it gets revealed about agri-culture
being excluded from the BIG NEW tax..

nothing big there...until you hear the why of it
seems fully one third of nitrogen that gets put on our crops
vaperises..into the sky..[up to one third]

here is the kicker
it vaperises into laughing gas..[nitrous oxide]
and nitrous oxide is ...*300 times as bad..*as carbon

add in the methane..[from mining and coal seam gas]
add in the solarcells cleaning agent
add in co2 from softdrink

your either beginning to see
why mining and agriculture are excluded

why its only our power bills and petrol
not AGRO-culture or mine-ers

cant you see we are being conned here yet again?

just like YOU got conned ..with taxing smokers to death
or the lie of every cigarette causing cancer
[as revealed 2 out of 3 CANT GET CANCER ever..!

its all about a new tax
for the backdoor backroom faceless men..again

recall who sold you the lie with quack science
REVEALED FRAUD..to get a new tax subsidy for the money traders

while were on this topic
think why we got a FIXED TAX PRICE FOR A FEW YEARS FIRST
has this got anything to do with the market pruice of carbon currently being between 5 and 10 bucks?

as tony reveals its likely to be 26 bucks a ton

[so why is this important?]
if we set the price at 26...it sets a floor price for carbon
meaning traders can sell their 5 dolar a ton carbon
to YOU..for 26 bucks

so now you know a bit more WHO
and WHAT is behind juli's backflip

big money
needing a big new fixed*price* tax
on everyone..

but not on those
making REAL* BAD ..greenhouse GASES

and not on all the GREeNHOUSE GASSES..only carbon gas

after we set a floor price on carbon
then the money market
trading carbon credits hits a boom

and from then on
you pay WHATEVER THEY
SPECULATE ..ITS PRICE UP-TO..!

aint they so clever
thats why they said to the red setter
jump...and she did a back flip....

[but please note who
is doing the actual dirty work...!]

however you look at it
the labrat party is gone

then we return to the real adgenda
via the other party of this two party FARCE

and still we get ever more NON-TAXED greenhouse gasses
that will kill the next generations..for sure

because they will be made ..to get off ..tax free
but its them what are and what caused any problem in the first place

we have copped lies all along

its cheaper to do it now...lol

[but if it wasnt real...
its out and out fear ..to sell us on theft]

ie we got scammed
the models didnt facter ALL the grenhouse gasses
nor the.. el nina/..el ninio ..or sothern occilation
or even the sun cycle ..or volcanic erruptions

in short the models are about as real as that movie
[copied off the blue smurfs you all got conned into seeing last year]

did that have a green theme
did it feed your fear..[thats how the game is played]

Belly if you are going to look at this deeper, then feel free to share your findings with us. So far all we have is that you think the carbon tax is good. Just as you thought the mining super tax was good, and the flood tax was good, and the NBN was good.

Your feelings are clear, taxes are good, Public spending is good.

However, your reasons are confined to your skull.

Some of us are getting the feeling that the only reason you support them is because they are Labor policies, and you don't really have a clue.

belly this is not a simple back flip.

When it was becoming clear that the voting public were not for a carbon tax Juliar drew a line in the sand, put her hand on her heart and pledged to the people:

'There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead.'

This is not ambiguous, does not have any fuzzy meaning. If as she is claiming now that she always intended a carbon tax, then she deliberately deceived the voting public and made a deep promise that she had no intention of keeping.

In this is true then Julia Gillard is deceitful and as per the thesaurus a few terms are appropriate:

A liar,
A fraud,
A con artist,
A swindler,
A cheat.

And cannot be trusted.

Can not bring yourself to say anything against two word Tony.