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Posted by Nicky, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 8:07:57 PM
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Err Dickie, you mean a license should be removed, because a few
sheep were shipped at the wrong time, which were too fat? The people who work for AQIS are at least a little rational, unlike you two dreamers. I stand by what I wrote. AQIS audits can be quite pedantic, they have the power to remove licences and close businesses down. But their job is to assist exporters, not destroy industries, they are far more intelligent then you two fanatics. As to cruelty, my point remains. Cruelty happens right here in Australia. To assume that all is well in Australia and they are all savages in the ME, as you idiots repeat again and again, is clearly flawed thinking. Change can happen in the ME, as it can happen here. If you want things to change in the ME, you are free to get off your little arses, not simply try to destroy Australian industry. But then we must remember, animal liberation is what your ideology is about, as distinct from animal welfare. That is exactly why you get absolutaly nowhere and people see you for the extremists which you are. So you are largely ignored. Fair enough Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 8:26:02 PM
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Just answer the questions spiv!
Posted by dickie, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 9:31:02 PM
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Hello
Nicky nobody has the any interest to contact you. These people work daily with Muslim Leaders RSPCA QLD and Lawyers. What on earth would you have to offer. I am not trying to be rude but your comment above is laughable. Why dont you ever listen to some of what Yabbys told you is required to be done to stop live exports. Why do you insist on laying it at the feet of farmers. Its not the farmers please wake up. Its the Industry in bed with The Government. Why dont you take on the industry like we have. Yabby gave you some good info background on WA abattoirs and PALE posted a link into a WA enquiry into Abattoirs that was kept hush hush. You didnt even take one bit of notice. Personally, I think when you tell people not to eat meat you do a lot of damage. You miss out on public support and that affects the animals. So you have your way and I have mine. Just like pale works to reopen abattoirs to stop live exports. You work full time to stop pale opening abattoirs. So it goes in circles. I appreciate your are a fellow animal lover but I don’t agree with your ideas. This week I have met with farmers and helped to work on diverting live to chilled. That`s what I like to because at least I know am doing what I can. Pale did ask for assistance to start Muslim Animal Welfare Groups and Farmers support Groups not abattoirs. However that was rejected. That was the end of it. I can say Pales relationship with RSPCA QLD and Muslim Leaders both in Australia and elsewhere is 'very good.' That much should be crystal clear even to you by now. ( not that its your business.) You were never interested before despite being invited. So too late now sorry. RSPCA QLD is very busy and I am not surprised they have not responded Posted by Macropod Whisperer, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 10:09:29 PM
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Yabby, after viewing the following link - the one which shows YOUR WA sheep being handled in the ME, I am no longer under any illusion that you are just a small-time spiv from the Old Dart.
Indeed not. You are a sick evil bastard - a sordid creep who gets off seeing his livestock tortured! Now take that back to the other heroes who trade in live animals, you disgusting little snitch! http://www.truveo.com/Live-Export-Animals-Australias-Middle-East/id/4025635471 Posted by dickie, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 10:17:59 PM
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Hi all
Yabby, actually,yes, we do expect their licenses to be removed when they cannot even comply with their OWN standards. And what about all the instances we don't know about? The times AQIS has not even been present to ensure compliance (see the Animals Angels reports). STILL none of this addresses the brutality filmed by Animals Australia at the link I provided. Nothing does or ever will. And you send little lambs to that, and expect the Australian community to have respect for farmers. Interesting to note that the Egyptians had to resort to chilled meat when we stopped sending them animals though. And we have yet another PALE alter ego, still with the same formatting style and grammatical errors (did I see somewhere that PALE has an interest in a LANGUAGE school?) "TarynW'"s remarks were in a distinctly similar vein; they must swap their passwords around. It's clear that it's one person throughout. "TarynW" is clearly clueless about workplace culture; in the 21st century you do not "control" workers, migrant or otherwise. And these people come from third world countries where animal cruelty is a way of life. The naivete of "Macropod Whisperer" (speaking of aliases! I know whom I am really addressing but I'll indulge the little game) is even more staggering. If farmers did not provide the animals the exporters would not be able to export them. Simple enough for you? The exporters simply play the game and make the big bucks, and collectively they have the government running scared. As for "public support", MW,if these threads are any indication, PALE has precious little of that. Compare its profile with that of Animals Australia, Animals Angels, WSPA, CIWF, Animal Liberation; in fact, any other group in the world. The others are accountable and transparent about what they do, that's the most significant difference. PALE hides its true intentions behind illusions, and abuses and threatens anyone who disagrees with it. No credibility, I'm afraid. As for taking advice from Yabby about what will end live exports - for God's sake, wake up to yourself/ves. Nicky Posted by Nicky, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 11:08:29 PM
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http://www.truveo.com/Live-Export-Animals-Australias-Middle-East/id/4025635471
(And note that Egypt, for one, did not import animals from other countries to replace the lost Australian imports, it increased its imports of chilled meats.
I (and I'm sure Dickie) will be very interested in your comments after you have watched it (which you won't, of course, preferring the gospel according to MLA)
Nicky