Also, Taryn, of what possible value could "summonsing" the failed Peter McGauran, or Tony Burke be? (Just so you know, Senator Scullion is the Opposition number now, and his silence has been equally deafening) As if, in your wildest dreams, either would be even slightly interested in such a discussion. These people talk to groups like Animals Australia, WSPA and the RSPCA.

PALE has serious delusions of grandeur and an exaggerated notion of its very limited importance in the wider scheme of things. In fact, PALE does not even APPEAR in the wider scheme of things.

BTW, does PALE have a policy on the use of animals in rodeos? Circuses?

Nicky

Nicky
@BTW, does PALE have a policy on the use of animals in rodeos? Circuses?@

Pale does not approve of either.
RSPCA QLD pay for the site to be hosted. Ask them because its none of your business
Yes pale was able to get the woman in USA to agree to go in and make some changes because she insisted the site belonged to Lindy who arranged it with the man who died. It was agreed the petition could be used to collect signatures. That was PALES choice

Just who do you think you are.

I would rather help Pale who works with RSPCA QLD Muslim Leaders and farmers than a bunch of people like you who opposes reopening abattoirs. That’s my! choice.
All NFP can collect a donation .They just cant give a tax deductions. You don’t know anything.

I think you will find AA and many others are also NFP. The only reason pale was registered as a NFP in the first place was to enable helpers like myself and others to be covered under RSPCA QLD insurance as they work in conjunction with them .

Otherwise nobody could go in to the office because insurance is a requirement
@When did you last update the website/s, BTW? @

Its none of your business BUT a web master was paid about eight months ago.

PALE lawyers decided to wait. I am busy and have children and work.
You have no idea why I worked in abattoirs. I was in a position to make a difference in several abattoirs. That’s why! I went


@Bringing in migrant workers is not the universal panacea@
Your must be completely stupid. All industries need staff. It’s the way they are controlled is the problem.

Also Nicky I didn’t suddenly appear. I chose to post because I was so angry. I wont be feeding your sick mind anymore because its of no use to help animals.

You’re a weak coward who hides behind a false name.

TarynW

You state to Nicky that: "You’re a weak coward who hides behind a false name," therefore, I believe you should tell us who "TarynW" is and why she "hide(s) behind a false name?"

I'm inclined to think that you are actually PALE. Am I not correct?

However, TarynW (whoever you are,) I must confess, I have only allowed myself a cursory glance at all the long-winded and totally irrelevant replies you and PALE have presented to Nicky in answer to her simple questions where a simple "Yes" or "No" would have often sufficed.

In the meantime TaryW (whoever you are,) I extracted from my "Favourites," a few historical posts from the animal welfare threads where you indicated that you had only discovered PALE's group in August 2006:

".....I have been looking for a sensible group for a long time to come up with alternatives and I have just joined PALE through reading your posts." Posted by TarynW, Tuesday, 29 August 2006 8:50:18 PM

Then, on this thread you claim: "I was the person that arranged for the pay pal to be disablied. I dont have to tell you why. I was also the one who changed it and re activated it about two months ago. It was not actived between 2003 right through to not long ago."

"2003" hmmmmm? Perhaps I haven't paid sufficient attention. "Nah....forget it Dickie!"

Moving on, I must confess, I really dig Yabby's amusing post on the same thread:

“Animal Welfare”
(http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=18&page=0#1461)

"Celivia, are you aware that if any Aussie exporters are shown not
to comply with our standards, that they will lose their license and
be shut down? Have you ever been through an AQIS audit, to know
how fussy they get? I have and I also happen to know how quickly
they will remove licences, for those who do not comply to standards."
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 21 September 2006 1:52:51 PM

Hehee Yabby - good one. Just shows how devious and hypocritical you are. Has AQIS taken Emanuel's licence off them?

Contd....

Hey Yabby, how about this one?:

"Scout, I live in the middle of this stuff, in rural WA. I don't
live on the Gold Coast. I see shearers here mistreating sheep and
I see farmers too scared to say anything, as they might not have any shearers, due to the labour crisis/resources boom in WA.

"Our Aussie arses are not as clean, as many city slickers think."
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 28 August 2006 8:48:05 PM

So did you report the shearers to the RSPCA, Yabby? No? Never mind. At least you assure us, as you bang on, post after post, that the barbarians in the Middle East aren't like that. After all, they have the Australians who also "mistreat sheep" assisting them and they sure could give the Arabs a lesson or two on how to handle dumb sheep and cover up the evidence eh?

So what can we expect from the next round of bile, Nicky? More fake morality?

I think I'll quit whilst the nausea's tolerable.

Toodle pip.

Dickie, I am so pleased to see you back! Great spotting too - I found the time discrepancy interesting too.

I think it is quite clear that TarynW is PALE, if you look at the spelling, punctuation, grammar and formatting style (not to mention the level of abuse). But I wonder why?

I do not use my own name because the last thing I want is PALE ranting at me directly - as other posters on these fora have discovered if you look at enough of the threads.

I find this quite incomprehensible, I'm afraid:

"RSPCA QLD pay for the site to be hosted. Ask them because its none of your business
Yes pale was able to get the woman in USA to agree to go in and make some changes because she insisted the site belonged to Lindy who arranged it with the man who died. It was agreed the petition could be used to collect signatures. That was PALES choice".

All I wanted were some simple answers. Basically, that was because PALE is so critical of other organizations' fundraising activities, wanting them to invest in its slaughterhouse venture HKM. The other thing I would really like to know is what the status of PALE's relationship with the RSPCA is now, and with AFIC (since it claimed to have hung up the phone on an "AFIC leader" not so long ago. Perhaps TarynW can favour us with the answers, RSPCA Queensland doesn't seem to want to respond to questions that mention PALE. But they might just say it's none of my business, given their reluctance to answer any questions at all.

To continue

(Continued)

Poor Yabby! You have really put him in his place too (yet again, I wonder why he never seems to get the message that the information he provides is the impetus for the wider community despising "livestock" farmers!).

AQIS, so far as I am aware, has never actually taken an exporter's licence away - it (reportedly) suspended Graham Daws (of Emanuels infamy) at one time, but he was a Director of another export company, so continued his operations that way. Just what you'd expect really. The most they do is tell them they are "NAUGHTY PEOPLE", they SHOULD have enough antibiotics on board ships, they SHOULDN'T pack the animals in so tightly, they SHOULD feed them enough - that sort of stuff. And maybe they must carry an AQIS vet on the next voyage following a disaster. Slap on the wrist stuff, nothing more.

Cheers for now,
Nicky