Nicky said

You might...

Pale replies

Nicky I hate to disappoint you but pale were invited to join the council by Kevin Sheill.

After a lot of consideration we rightly or wrongly have not taken that up.

People like PF and Phil (Free Ranger) are more important to sit on that board.
Both are farmers who have done an enormous amount to improve animal welfare with little or no assistance.

The lady who has sat on that board for years as well is a walking book of facts and figures and I agree that is also very important.



Nicky said

It could have...

Pale replies.

Nicky you are a charming person and your personality is shining through yet once again. I just don’t know why you feel you have to do this.

Here’s how it works = you jump in the bag pale for our completely different approach to animal welfare regarding live exports working in conjunction with RSPCA QLD.

We respond with our views. Yes there is absolutely no doubt we have different ways of tackling the issues.

It might shock you that our choice of a new leader in Animal Welfare would be Lyn White.

Nicky said
There is certainly a world ….

Pale replies

Nicky when are you ever going to grow up. This is exactly the type of silly school girl bitching that the Government and Industry talk about.

Oh well, at least pale in conjunction with RSPCA QLD has done one thing.

Actually Nicky not that’s it’s your business but our relationship has never been stronger.

But feel free to delude yourself otherwise. Then check your motives.
A true animal lover would be delighted to see people working united for the Animals.

So what’s your ‘real problem’. Think about it.

PALE, WHAT Council? You keep making these claims without supporting them with any foundation. And let's face it, anything organized by Kevin Sheill would have very little to do with animal welfare. And WHAT has "PALE in conjuntion with RSPCA Queensland" actually done? Come up with some worthless "agreements" with some Muslims that were never going to be enforceable? Get a grip.

You also resort to Yabby's tactics under pressure, ineffective and poorly expressed insults and attempts at sarcasm, which is disappointing.

Lyn White is a major player in Animals Australia which IS the definitive animal welfare authority in this country, now that the RSPCA has been discredited in every state (now including Queensland).

WA - Live export farmers remain on the State Council (one with an old conviction for animal cruelty), also investigations reportedly under way for alleged misfeasance
NSW - Sweetheart deals with battery hen farms - and they've got Steve Coleman...
SA - Sweetheart deals with pig farmers, castigated by the Greens' Mark Parnall in State Parliament
Victoria - Just generally useless (see Patty Mark's RSPCA Watchdog website)
Queensland - Recent revelations on television of staff quitting en masse as a result of stress and poor management
Tasmania - Benefactor removing millions of dollars of funding because of outright lies by the CEO there, Rick Butler, and last year the President and two long standing board members quitting in disgust for the same reason.

Unfortunately, the Australian public is too lethargic to force governments to remove the statutory powers from RSPCA state branches, but it's only a matter of time.

Need I go on?

Nick

Nicky
With the ever increasing food of people moving to QLD and the opening of the RSPCA Animal Rescue TV Show it has put pressure on old phone systems.
I think its going to cost around a hundred thousand to put a new syatem in. This has created a lot of extra work and pressure.
Regarding what have rspcaqldpale done with Muslim leaders onthe live export issue- worked hard and probably more thananybody else.
I dont care how that sounds to you it is simply the truth. Wouldnt you haveegg on your face if it were theMuslim leaders working with us who demaned live exports stop.
Regarding Kevin. For someonewho knows everything you dont know much.
Its termed a stake holder=
PDF] Animal Welfare Inventory Report To AAWS – Livestock Production ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
consultant Kevin Shiell be retained to assist in drawing together the inventory ... an Animal Welfare Advisory Committee to provide advice on animal welfare ...
www.daff.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0014/152105/aaws_stocktake_livestock_prod.pdf - Similar pages

Your a discrace to animal welfare and I amsure AA would not thank you. Especially lyn whom we support.
You see Nicky the difference is we support AA AL and HSI, also the farmers and the Muslims -

Do not address comments to pale again. We are ashamed to acknowledge

you.

Ok then .... looks like this thread needs a change of direction.

What do you think of this?

http://www.pigprogress.net/home/id1602-51008/save_the_pork_industry__kill_the_pigs.html

"Clearly these farmers did not do it for profit. You know so little
about farmers, it is shamefull." mmmmm..... Yabby. All I can say is that to a worm in horseradish, the whole world is horseradish.

Hi all

PF, You are absolutely right. This thread has run its course, I think.

PALE, I don't know what exactly that gibberish was but am assuming it was intended to be a link to something which was intended to give Kevin Sheill some credibility in animal welfare matters. All I can say is "get real".

And the Muslims, at the end of the day and in spite of your much claimed influence have NOT demanded an end to live exports, so that is moot. All they have done (under pressure, at that) is to state that they are not "necessary".

Further, since you claim that Animals Australia, Animal Liberation and the others will not speak to you, you have no possible way of knowing what they think (or what they would or would not thank me for). You are alone in a wilderness, it seems. Ask yourself why.

Nicky

PF,

What about the UN re food waiste? Must be something. What do you think?


Nicky re comments about pale not being on the advisory board Nicky.

Firstly, I pointed out we were invited. Then I mentioned Kevin and you said- what are you talking about.


www.daff.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0014/152105/aaws_stocktake_livestock_prod.pdf - Similar pages

Nicky dear, as Yabby calls you,- I think someone should wspa in your ear ,Kevin was appointed as head in charge to form Animal Welfare Advisory ages ago.

We were going to be a stake holder but weighing it up I honestly felt people like PF and Phil at Free Ranger would be far better.

We are still living in hope PF will at a later date.

I am not saying we won’t a little further down the track and we weren`t honored by the invitation.

Nicky said

so that is moot.

Pale replies

Smile, - A moot Ah,-. Classic.

you’re a hoot.

Btw the media release was not from pressure. It was in response for a request to support Lyn. Far more than the Christian Leaders did-think about it.

Nicky said
Further, since you claim …

Are, Nicky but didn’t you know I `m clairvoyant? Tell you what.

I am willing to bet a shilling on the side I do know what they are thinking- hilarious.



What you are lacking IMOP is a project to really make a big difference.

I believe that is the major reason for so much girlie stuff.

I can honestly say not one person in the pale office or members together with RSPCA QLD have ever had anything other than a co operative working relationship sharing a passion which is all about animal welfare improvements.

Nicky said

Ask yourself why?

Pale replies

Ah, Nicky that would be telling:)

Careful what you wish for, + even more so of what you ask:)

Too much information may not be good for your. I suspect your off your medication again:)

Oh, dear I forgot you have no sense of humour.

Nicky I do know AA would not thank you for baiting us TBO

Let sleeping dogs lie:)