Nicky, your favourite website is full of mistakes, due to lack of knowledge
about livestock. More the writings of a pedantically doting
mother,then somebody who understands sheep. I shall go back to
it at some point when I am less busy at work and list some of
the many flaws for you.

Nor can you blame farmers for the difficulties obtaining Trisolfen
and other similar products. Farmers farm their farms, we rely on
you suburbanites to do more then just trade houses, such as delivering
inputs for wealth generating export industries such as farming and
mining, in an efficient and cost effective manner. We don't run
Canberra, we don't run the APVMA, we don't manufacture or distribute
vet products. We use what is available. Can't you people get anything
right? Next you will want us to come to your house and cook your
food for you, as producing the stuff is not enough it seems.

Clearly you really did lead a sheltered life, for you are very
much out of touch with nature. A bit like Dickie, who dislikes
David Attenborough, as he shows nature as things are. That apparently
makes him "bloodthirsty", or some similar remark.

The real world is not your concrete jumgle, that is your plastic
man made world. Given that we are running out of oil, it might
not have lasted so long after all, in the bigger scheme of things.

If you don't understand the fundamentals of nature, then you
are not living in the real world. Luckily I have lived in both,
so can compare them very well.

Yabby

Yeh, but your not going to say on the other have not done a fair report on the way things really are- are you Yabby.?

Good of you to help out with pointers on the site though. We are doing a new one so we will yell if we need your advise if thats ok

Hey Yabbs, since your in such a helpful good mood, I was wondering if you might like to feature as an older live export supporter?
You know sort of like an Ambassidor.

We are actually doing two new sites one supporter good farmers and a new pale in conjunction with rspcaqld one.

I thought it might be fair to contact each person and family involved in live exports and invite them to make a comment and tell us a little about themselves and familys. What do you reckon. Good idea or what?



I am trying out btw my new soft wear. Its a speak system.

Trouble is you have to speak the same way each time. Just between you and I thats awfully hard at times when posting to you and Nicky:)

Yabby that footage on the aa site must concern you surley along with the pictures of animals suffering like that.

Dont say Gertrude theres nothing wrong with them.. I am not mucking around and just speaking to you sensibly.

Nicky
Its on the other thread however I keep forgetting to ask you why you believe Hugh wasnt allowed to travel to see the Cormo Sheep?




Anyway you said Hugh was blocked from checking the sheep.

I am just wondering where you got that information that the Government refused.

Good Night Everyone

Hi all
Yabby, it may surprise you to know that a substantial part of the content of that website was prepared by a sheep farmer (but not one who exports her sheep).

PALE, I won't dignify your post before last with any response beyond saying that any appointment of Kevin Sheill to any "animal welfare" Committee is a sad joke by the Howard government, and I certainly would not be advertising that I was invited to be part of it. On reflection, you probably do have a bit of an idea what the other groups think of you - but you have no idea what they think of me, since neither you not they know me. And of course, they don;t speak to you.

I can't begin to imagine why you would want to place on your website pro-live export comment by farmers involved (speaking of off medication). Sad indeed.

Cheers
Nicky

Nicky

M is a lovely lady and a friend of mine, but does not produce sheep on a large scale.

You remember M don’t you? The one that you all stitched up, for forwarding an email about Eric Ball and the RSPCA in WA.

Please circulate the email it read etc. Poor old M got stuck in, sending it, here and there, only to be dropped in it.
Sick with worry,of loosing her farm from threats of legal action, from one of the biggest law firms in this country, (no less ) but still 'nobody' put their hand up to help this innocent victim.

Now, as I recall there was one bit of advice floating round. "Don’t talk to pale".

It’s just as well she didn’t listen.

I heard the stamping of tiny feet were quite load when that action was withdrawn, soon after.

Your really bringing back memories.

I recall contacting Christa in Germany. WE offered to fly her out.
Yes I read all the emails, and was fully aware, of the goings on behind my back.
The phone calls to her saying, Oh don’t go to the Gold coast Come here etc and once again "whatever you do" – don’t tell Wendy.

Now, I will tell you why I sat back and did 'nothing at all' about that.
(Because I don’t want to work with people like that 'ever').

Spiteful personalities are the down fall of Animal Welfare in this country.

Why would I invite the live Export agents to make a comment with a story and picture of their families?

Think about it.

Kevin was actually quite helpful with suggestions of reopening plants.

You know I might just pop back and see how our petition is going.

You know the one that running from Germany and 'supposed' to below to someone other than pale?

Of course we have paid thousands over the years to keep it hosted.

The one with the donation button.

I wonder how many donations have been made in , lets see now what is it - must be four of five years.

PALE, for the life of me, I have no idea what delusions you have got going on there, or who "M" is and I just found out who Eric Ball is because of a transcript someone sent me from a "Four Corners" program. I also don't know what website or petition or donations links to which you refer. Who is Christa and what has Germany to do with anything? Were you expecting donations from Germany? Did you get any? Websites do not cost that much for hosting, either, if you have been paying in the thousands you have been ripped off.

And if Kevin Sheill had an original thought it would be lonely.

Nicky

Nicky
You’re giving me some hard choices tonight.
I don’t know if I should read your comments
Or watch Faulty Towers.
Anyway Just to pick up on some of your comments Nicky said=
You might like to ask yourself why it is Animals Australia, not PALE is the organization which participates in animal welfare debate
At national consulting level though.
Thursday, 24 April 2008

Pale Comments.
When I responded by saying. Ar, Nicky we actually we were invited- as stake holders. - You posted this-
Committee is a sad joke by the Howard government, and I certainly would not be advertising that I was invited to be part of it.On reflection, you probably do have a bit of an idea what the other groups think of you - but you have no idea what they think of me, since neither you not they know me. And of course, they don;t speak to you.

Oh Dear Nicky, then we had this=
Posted by Nicky, Thursday, 24 April 2008 11:47:12 PM
Reports by German animal welfare group Animals Angels, which accompanied several shipments to SE Asia (the ships upon which they reported are amongst those that were re-named to mask their backgrounds

Then this=
Posted by Nicky, Saturday, 26 April 2008 6:53:28 PM
Who is Christa and what has Germany to do with anything?

Were you expecting donations from Germany? Did you get any?

Pale Comments
Are you really quite sure you want to keep going.
Another little secret.
An old Crook I met years ago always used to buy
five kilos of extra steak and some sausages for his house
keeper to steal from him each week.
I was curious by this weekly addition to orders so
enquired as to why.
He explained she was a very good house keeper and it
was cost twice as much too gets another to do the job she did.
The moral of the story is I guess-
You can’t change some people’s natures and if the job
is being done with enthusiasm 'why rock the boat'