PALE, there are multiple instances of the RSPCA failing to act - in SA, the Greens' Mark Parnall gave a lengthy speech about the appalling behaviour of the RSPCA SA in a pig farm enquiry/ies, in Victoria you can visit Patty Mark's RSPCA Watchdog website, in NSW Animal Liberation has documented inaction over battery hens several times and RSPCA Tasmania has lost millions of dollars in funding because the benefactor was not prepared to put up with the lies of the CEO. Queensland apparently did not come up too well in a TV doco about stress, and management lack of support. And how could we forget THAT Four Cornes program.
Aa for the state of play in the WA case, all the indications are that the Government there HAS gof away with its "bully boy" tactics over the judicial process.

Cheers
Nicky

Nicky
Thank`s for that. As you know we are only interested in the Animals and we work in conjunction with RSPCA QLD on the live Animal Trade.
( well umm we work anyway)
We also as you know work with Muslim Leaders regarding Halal kind Meats.
In the near future we will make a statement about working with both organisations.
RSPCA National have certainly got some questions to answer and this time 'we' will be asking the questions.

Until then I will down load your link and listen.

To be honest I have not bothered too much before prefering the make comments on personal expereince.

I totally understand pale has got many an animal libber off side by our stand to reopen plants in Australia.

However when you look at the curroption of the syatem itself which runs through all organisations to some extent you realise nothing bar getting in a opening plants without Government interfearance will help.

This can be done quite simply by staying well clear of all Government departments including MLA Austrade FF and State Feds.

By working direct with farmers and Muslim buyers you stand a chance of getting things on track

Now as you all know we have invited RSPCA National Along with AA and all other groups to join us at meetings.

RSPCA National need to be extremly careful what they are doing in regards to a response to our invitation.

Handle with Care Indeed.

When we can we will most probably drop a bomb shell. When it suites us and nobody else.

When it will have the most impact "to help Animals."

That is what we are all about.

Nicky
I listended to your link. Thanks for that. The problem RSPCA have (apart from the structure) is the lack of laws to protect Animals.

After saying that I must agree there are huge problems with RSPCA National IMOP.

Which Tv doc on QLD RSPCA I didnt see.

Fyi I have contacted RSPCA CEO to seek his comment of the latest little stunt by RSPCA National Office - and others.

Depending open his advise I will then decide along with our lawyers what we intend to do about it.

btw Dont be too sure WA have got away with it.

The key to animal welfare is for everyone to work together. Thats is where you friends have failed badly.

We do not appreciate the fact that after inviting AA and RSPCA National to join us at the table working under our MOU with Muslim Leaders that they now wish to just gate crash our contacts and destroy the delicate operations we have worked tirelessly for years to put together.

It is a matter of record that pale has many times invited RSPCA National Animals Austealia and others to become involved in our working with Muslim leaders.

It is also a matter of record that they have rejected these invations over and over again.

Isnt it interesting that they now have again refused our latest invitation but informed us they are to contact the people we have held our MUO working with Animal Welfare for years with.

So you see Nicky once again pale has led the way but these people cant stand not to be given the credit for our lawyers and groups efforts.

RSPCA National have been put on notice that we pale will not hestitate to go public if their obtuse attitude remains.

As they say enough is enough.

We are in the middle of delicate work that could make the world of difference for the animals and RSPCA National are not being honerable.

We await RSPCA QLD CEO reply before making further statements- but not for long.

Hi all
PALE, I'm aware of the issues with AA because of what you've said on the different threads, but what is the story with RSPCA National? Lynn Bradshaw (WA) is now the National President, but as I understand it she is pretty compliant with what the government wants.

I don't know the exact details about the RSPCA Queensland doco but I believe it was called "Stressbusters", it was on ABC TV (I found the details on that website after an article/review appeared in the Australian about it. The story was that the CEO wouldn't speak to the professor who was doing the study/program. That's as much as I know.

The other background stuff here I don't know about (RSPCA National stunt?)

I'm away in Melbourne so am a bit behind in the news.

Cheers
Nicky

Hello Nicky

I saw your post go up. I couldn’t reply. I didn’t have any posts left. Don’t you find that annoying...

Nicky I can assure you what I have said on these threads about everything is the absolute truth. I have posted in response to the way in which our organization was treated right "from the start".

For almost five years we said nothing. Then decided to fight back with the truth.
Anyway there’s no need for you to get yourself in the middle surely. Just keep an open mind.



The Government and media can’t fob us off as being extreme either. It’s probably turned out for the best for the Animals.

We have credibility where it most counts with Our in conjunction RSPCA QLD and MOU Muslim leaders for Animal Welfare. We are comfortable with that. It also helps the others that we agree with them.

Regarding Lyn I only spoke with her once a long time ago.

I have left a message asking her to contact me.

Ok I will tell you about the stunt. For “5 years” pale has invited RSPCA National and also your friends to with Muslim leaders regarding animal welfare.

Clearly it’s the way to go. I have been telling them that forever.!

The last invitation was four weeks ago. Finally we got 'that reply'.

No they won’t accept our invitation to be informed of where we are at with our dealings or to sit under our mou working towards animal welfare.
Instead she said Handle with care people had decided to contact 'apart' from us and seek their own meeting.

Nicky we are at a very delicate stage of negotiations and clearly this could throw out our whole program and many years of work.

Our lawyers have gone berserk and it will be on for now for young and old.
Of course they can do as they wish. Providing they can live with the consequences.
Their typical behavior this time has gone too far.

We will do what’s best for the Animals and owe our allegiance to the Animals only

Given that this hit the stratosphere in terms of its length, I thought I would sneak in a last?? post.

Well done-(to death!)-Nick/Thel/Lou and Lord-of-the-Manor.

No need to thank me for the compliment.......................PLEASE. NO NEED!!