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Is not Allowing Ukraine to join NATO the right decision?

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Dear Foxy,

I wrote:

"You deserve condomnation for that."

Please go back and read my post.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 1:27:05 PM
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Dear David,

Sincere apologies - my mistake.

Very clever.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 2:09:08 PM
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"When you're dealing with clowns - humour and mockery seems
appropriate."

"Perhaps the joke should have been about weapons - with the
Russians throwing balalaikas instead of artillery at the
Ukrainians."

If you can't comprehend that NATO joining Ukraine = Nuclear WWIII
- Then you're stupid and nothing I say can help you

If you think that Ukrainian war aims of taking back Crimea = Nuclear WWIII
- Then you're stupid and nothing I say can help you

If you think that firing missiles and drones into Moscow or targeting Russian civilians in Donbass for 8 years won't escalate the conflict, or that killing civilians on the Crimean bridge won't escalate the conflict and galvanize the Russian government and peoples resolve against a hostile west
- Then you're stupid and nothing I say can help you

And if you think nuclear WWIII is a fun happy circus and something to joke about.
Then your cold war hangover and hatred for Russia has gone too far to the point you're a danger to the rest of us, need to have your head read and probably also be medicated.

Nuclear bombs are not a joke, and maybe soon we will all find out.
You like immigrants don't you Foxy, you identify as one.
Well get ready for a couple hundred million.

I asked a mate today...
What do you think the Biden government would prefer -
Nuclear war or Trump back in office next year?

Ugly question, I don't wish to answer it.
Sad but true.

Ukraine is THE MOST corrupt, lying, thieving, murderous regime on the planet, except for it's master the United States of America.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 7:22:45 PM
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Russian Rambo takes out entire Ukrainian convoy.
http://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1685352470015569920

Keep supporting the escalation of conflict if you must.

Russia will find more cities to use as firebags and let Ukraine keep sending more of its own people to horrific certain deaths.

Soon there will be no Ukrainians left.

But please, I'd really prefer we don't have to have nuclear WWIII and 200 million boat people arriving in our country.
- If at all possible.

You do realise that in this scenario if you can't defend yourself,
- Someone else might decide to eat you.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 7:35:50 PM
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Dmitry Medvedev, yesterday on Telegram
"Our Armed Forces, repelling the counteroffensive of the collective enemy, protect the citizens of Russia and our land. This is obvious to all decent people.

But beyond that, they prevent world conflict.
After all, if we imagine that the offensive of the Ukrobanderites with the support of NATO was successful and they seized part of our land, then we would have to, by virtue of the rules of the decree of the President of Russia dated 06/02/2020, go for the use of nuclear weapons.

There is simply no other way out.

Therefore, our enemies must pray to our warriors. They do not allow the global nuclear fire to flare up.

Happy Russian Navy Day!"

It's just as well that the Russians are winning...

Putin Adds 30 Combat Ships To Russian Navy Fleet Amid Ukraine War; Reviews Nuclear Submarines
http://youtu.be/paO2uIGppEI

...Meanwhile, from October last year
The U.S. Army is struggling to find the recruits it needs to win the fight over the future
http://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/26/us-army-struggles-to-find-recruits-its-needs-to-win-fight-of-future.html
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 10:51:44 PM
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http://www.opendemocracy.net/en/ukrainian-offensive-drone-attacks-russia-grain-africa-putin-support/

>>“…the recent attacks on Russian territory have galvanised this idea of a ‘defensive war’ among many ordinary people. They have exposed a degree of latent patriotism that may not already have been on display among those who had their doubts about invading Ukraine. This shows that the war has activated social forces in Russia – though it is yet not clear where this activism will lead.

“Russian society, after its initial ambivalence, is becoming more supportive. The process of turning an unpopular campaign into a ‘People’s War’ appears to have begun.”

This is helped by Putin’s insistence since the earliest days of the conflict that the Ukraine occupation was a defensive war against an expansionist NATO. Facing a Ukraine armed with some of NATO’s most modern weapons and with thousands of troops trained in NATO countries, it is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy, a thoroughly unwelcome element of the conflict with which Western politicians must now contend.<<

I've been told that the Russian people are usually slow to get moving, but once they do, their resolve becomes hardened and they act with conviction and determination.

There's going to come a time soon when what's left of Ukraine is stomped into the ground.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 6 August 2023 7:25:23 AM
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