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The Forum > General Discussion > Is not Allowing Ukraine to join NATO the right decision?

Is not Allowing Ukraine to join NATO the right decision?

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If he does go to Russia - he needs to stay away
from high-rise buildings. You never know
Putin's mood swings.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 26 August 2023 3:20:15 PM
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"When we neither punish nor reproach evil doers,
we are not simply protecting their trivial old age,
we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from
beneath new generations."
(Alexandr I. Solzhenitsyn).

My wish for Armchair Critic is:

"My wish for you...is that your skeptic-eclectic brain
be flooded with the light of truth."
(Alexandr I. Solzhenitsyn).
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 26 August 2023 3:27:33 PM
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My wish for you Foxy is that you take off the blindfold and pull your fingers out of your ears.

BBC, dramatic rise UKR losses. Scholz to Macron, why is Putin silent? Germany-Greece tank deal.
http://youtu.be/xaTCIuVTp_0?si=C0Yta-L2JejWxsii

Civilians evacuated as fighting intensifies in Kupiansk
http://www.dw.com/en/civilians-evacuated-as-fighting-intensifies-in-kupiansk/video-66656810
"Ukrainian authorities have ordered the evacuation of Kupiansk and surrounding areas. DW's Aya Ibrahim accompanied a Red Cross unit as they went door to door, trying to persuade civilians to leave."

You've got to put yourself into the mindset of the Russian military and ask yourself, if Ukrainians cutting off the land bridge to Crimea is a signigicant possibility, then why doesn't Russia move the 110K+ troops who are advancing in Kupiansk to the Robotyne bridgehead to halt the Ukrainian advance there?

The West has more or less ordered Ukraine to focus all it's forces in Robotyne, and Russia is well aware of this.

I think there's only 1 logical answer.
Russians have prepared a trap in that region, it's a kill-zone and Ukrainians are slowly moving straight into it.
Russians have plenty of reserves, maybe they will be deployed to cut off and either capture or destroy the Ukrainians there at some point.
Beyond that, Ukrainians are on the clock with regards to the weather.

http://youtu.be/-TnYXglwbKw?si=Sx1oUSSVxWvkijMj
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 3:06:19 AM
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http://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1696594621516939552
http://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1696593260855353637

In Sun Tzu's 'The Art of War', military leaders are advised to take high ground and let the enemy try to attack from a lower position. Fighting from an elevated position is said to be easier for a number of tactical reasons.

Ukrainians think it's about capturing the town, for the sake of optics and to secure further weapons supplies from the west.
Russians probably don't care about the town itself, tricked the Western and Ukrainian military strategists to committing their military into a well prepared trap, so they can annihilate them.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 10:53:34 AM
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Baldrick,

Whenever the Russians get their arse kicked you claim that the Russians ran away to make a trap. This has not happened the last 5 times you said this and is not likely to happen this time.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 11:38:00 AM
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You argue for the sake of it.
There's no chance of cutting the land bridge let alone taking Crimea.

You try to win points over a stupid flag on the side of a building which can't even be verified, could be anywhere...
Meanwhile Russia launches a missile strike and blows the shite out of Kiev
http://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1696919292602614050

You could argue about breaching the first line of defense behind the tank ditch at Verbove and it could be true but isn't confirmed, but your still some 70 kilometers from Melitopol.
Every single Ukrainian you send in there is probably going to die.
I'm not saying that to be mean or win the argument or because I support Russia.
I'm saying it because it's pointless waste of human lives.

Even if Ukraine killed twice as many as they were losing, they would still run out of men to fight with first.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 31 August 2023 9:16:26 PM
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