Ukraine have already lost the war.
How America are going to try and sell the loss as a win is beyond me.

Ukraine loses 71,000 people in unsuccessful counteroffensive — Putin
http://dan-news.ru/en/defence/ukraine-loses-71000-people-in-unsuccessful-counteroffensive--putin/

I tried to tell you the numbers were bad, but you refuse to accept anything that doesn't come from Kiev or the West or fit your pre-existing neoconservative-like beliefs.

THE UKRAINE OFF RAMP IS CLOSED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FphNO2VmNhY

Baldrick,

Once again you are parroting bullsh1t from the Kremlin. You forgot to mention the Kremlin's line that they destroyed 4400 tanks this year which is nearly 4x the number of actual tanks that Ukraine had. If you don't want to look like an idiot you should take your information from more reliable sources.

In the last week or so, Russia has lost at least 4 IL76s a Mig 29 and a Su 27. It had a landing ship and a tanker very badly damaged and last night storm shadow missiles destroyed one Kilo-class submarine and another landing ship and Ukraine took over 2 oil platforms equipped with radar etc.

In the south, the Ukrainians have broken through the first line of defence and the first Surovikin line and are busy storming Opytne, Verbove and Novopropivka. The ground is littered with rotting Russian corpses and burnt-out Russian tanks and vehicles.

I believe that Russia is looking at another partial mobilisation to replace the 300,000 previously mobilised that have mostly been killed or wounded.

Russia's economy is in a tailspin and Russia is losing the war.