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Lies as a pretext for war : Comments
By Irfan Yusuf, published 29/6/2006How easy it is for lies and propaganda to be used as a pretext for war.
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Posted by Leo Braun, Sunday, 23 July 2006 4:24:43 PM
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Whilst the infant Israeli Hagana junta containing young Zionist officers included a shy as he was, yet staunch Yitzhak Rabin. Who surely carried out Ben-Gurion orders to fire on ghetto survivors, so utterly defenceless men, women and children. Sinking thus Altalena with a massive loss of the innocent Jew-lives. Just because of a ship to carry also some arms, donated by French ruling Jewry to Zionist Irgun terrorists. Thus rendering an utterly diabolical, Zionist bestiality act, compounded immensely by the prolonged agony. Unleashed on the Jew-lesser brethren, who had a glimpse of an ultimate hope to face some joy of life in a highly acclaimed safe haven of the colonised eretz Israel.
Instead their pulsing with a hope of life bodies were mercilessly reduced into lifeless, fragmented remains. Just of bones and torn flesh consequences. Perpetrated in a cold blood by dehumanised Zionists on those to survive demonic WWII horrors. So where reigns Zionist fascism (which not stopped), it cannot evaporate but to grow. Perpetually filling even the vacuum cells via professed supremacist rule motto: Should Anyone Be Ever Absent From Us ... He Will Be Then Against Us! Thus having aristocratic elders-of-zion echelon-masters throughout the millenniums firmly to place their bets each way, they always to score the cuckoo-nest incubated Jew winners world-wide. Impersonating an exclusive tyrant entity breed of the limitless significance. Assuring thus global apartheid via fait-accompli elimination regimes. Starting right from a kindergarten via compulsory schooling and cultivated universities buffers, it to yield an ample of disposable Zionist puppets. Accompanied over the years with connived referees issued clandestine dossiers as norm. No wonder the imbeciles lot to be nurtured with a carte blanche, whilst incorruptible souls of the moral citizens to endure devious wrath. Still so many of ill informed minds failed even to realise what hit them indeed. Without expecting in the wildest dream to face such a nightmare of the utterly insidious act to be unleashed on us! Posted by Leo Braun, Sunday, 23 July 2006 4:32:12 PM
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Leo Braun re ‘half-hearted apology’. My words:
‘I realise that some Jews are anti-Israel and disagree with many actions of the Israeli government, but the language you use goes far beyond simple disagreement.’ If you had read this reply, you wouldn’t accuse me of confusing anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. You can be as anti-Zionist as you like (it’s a free country) and I am well aware that many Jews worldwide disagree with the actions of Israel. My objection was the actual language you used – ‘JewNazi’ etc. which I find quite offensive. The fact that these terms are used about Jews by a Jewish person does not lessen the fact that this kind of language is very distasteful. ‘there-are-virulently-racist-elements-within-the-greater-Palestinian-community...’ I believe that you heard many hateful diatribes from Israelis but it would be hard to beat the Palestinians for sheer virulent hatred. The custom of teaching small children bloodthirsty hate-songs and poems (which also happens in Saudi Arabia) is not carried out in Israeli schools (so far as I know) – there was a particularly revolting video from Egyptian national television recently featuring a ‘religious teacher’ interviewing children about their attitude to Jews and coaching them to give hateful responses – I’m sure even you would have been repulsed. I find it difficult to muster much sympathy for a culture where a song called ‘I Hate Israel’ is the top of the hit parade. Posted by dee, Sunday, 23 July 2006 8:44:20 PM
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Tao – “ I consider John Howard, George Bush …no different from Osama Bin Laden’
I really don’t know how to respond to a comparison between elected leaders of the Western world and a cave-dwelling head-chopper and arch hypocrite (this devout Muslim used to drink and chase cheap blondes, as I’m sure you know). Since we live in a democracy, its your privilege to compare our PM with Islamic terrorists who torture helpless civilian captives and then behead them. I hope you never indulge in this level of outspokeness in the kind of society bin Laden wished to inflict upon us - but no, wait, it will be ok to diss Islam in a Muslim country because 'there is no difference' - ‘but you don’t allow Muslim extremism to be viewed in the same context'. On the contrary, I most certainly view Islamic extremism in the context of history. From the time of Mohammed, Islamic history has been one long invasion and subjection of non-Muslims – The Middle East, Persia, North Africa were all conquered by jihad. Europe was next on the list, but the Islamic invaders were finally defeated at Vienna in 1683. There is nothing much different about modern Muslim terrorism: Ibn Khaldun (d. 1406), jurist (Maliki), renowned philosopher, historian, and sociologist, summarized these consensus opinions from five centuries of prior Sunni Muslim jurisprudence with regard to the uniquely Islamic institution of jihad: 'In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force... The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense... Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.' So what has changed? Posted by dee, Sunday, 23 July 2006 8:51:58 PM
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• As a consequence of the rational Tao-uttered climax sensation due to attained an-access to the infinite source of the websites engaged in the perpetual struggle against the Zionist Imperialism, guilty-of-war crimes and usurpation of an entire Jewish race -- the commonsense logic dictates now on the genuinely predisposed OLO forum users to-adopt likewise exploratory approach, utilising Google search for 'anti-Zionist Jews' or 'Jews against Zionism' in the first instance, before launching vitriolic attacks on the Jew-lesser brethren.
As any-such underhand retaliation ploys onslaught by the Zionist zealots will-not-be tolerated. Needless to-stress an-importance in having OLO forum mod's assured Jew dissidents (frequenting this unique participatory-democracy site) of our prerogative to-speak freely against the Zionist Imperialism. Which survived this long, due to-increasingly conniving culture under pathological deceit proliferation. Profoundly equipped with the intellectual lingo-arsenal, versus amateurish Jew dissidents. As 21st century internet-forums became infested with the exceptionally skilled charlatans (apt-to-play both sides of the coin against each other). Watch for the notorious anti-social thugs on the Zionist payroll, noted to-juggle in pairs around-the-clock, under revolved aliases cast, for the sole purpose to drive humble Jews into unthinking conformity. Evidently as an-increasingly conniving culture of pathological deceit attached itself to what passes for political ideologies expediency. To use term "ideology" is gilding the lily, for it appears that the devious Zionist standard, is to-be loose with the truth. Set to mislead, to misrepresent and generally try to delude any-naive and submissive fools in subjugated community. Courtesy of the lingered colonialist relics of a bloody diabolical sphere under global echelon's hegemony, Noted for the Zionist get-square mentality, the actions of which are in a stark contrast with the civil society moral-tenets. Where the way to handle a Jew dissident who laid a glove on the Zionist establishment, was to get such a battler back with even a harder right. Leaving thus a bloody trail of the Zionist henchmen hit innocent Jew victims. Culminating in the heinous murder of my besieged father (Michal) Moszek Tenenbaum in Poland, just for speaking my mind for the better Australia. Posted by Leo Braun, Monday, 24 July 2006 6:19:28 PM
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• Tao your diligent input has been much appreciated, however once having tackled an-initial hurdle just to-appreciate the magnitude of ...'anti-Zionist Jews'... 'Jews against Zionism'... impending tsunami, you ought to-persevere a bit-longer to-tackle the colossal scale of the master connivers chutzpah continuum to the detriment of the humankind. In the meantime please examine (1979) evidence presented to the Australian Broadcasting Tribunal Inquiry into Melbourne Community Radio Station 3CR by the Jews Against Zionism (group based in Melbourne, Australia).
1. INTRODUCTION TO ZION-NAZI COLLABORATION 2. JEWISH COMMUNITY REACTIONS 2.1 Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism 2.2 How Zionists stir up hostility to 3CR 2.3 How Zionist misrepresentation of 3CR can be effective 3. WHAT IS ZION-NAZI COLLABORATION? 4. HANNA ARENDT 4.1 Zionist emigration and Gestapo expulsion 4.2 The Jewish Councils 4.3 The Zionist response to Arendt 4.4 The campaign backfires 5. THE KASTNER CASE 5.1 Introduction 5.2 The accusations 5.3 The verdict 5.4 The reaction 5.5 The majority judgement 5.6 The minority judgement 5.7 Conclusion 6. THE BACKGROUND TO ZION-NAZI COLLABORATION 6.1 Failure to support resistance 6.2 Extremist Zionists and the Axis 6.3 The Haganah reports to Eichmann 6.4 Zionist priorities during the Holocaust 6.5 Suppressing the news 6.6 Zionist leaders admit inactivity 6.7 A message Zionist leaders ignored 6.8 Other Zionists accuse 6.9 The very existence of the 'Jewish Agency' helped the Nazis 7. CLOSING THE DOORS 7.1 Britain 7.2 The USA 7.3 Sweden 7.4 Selectivity 7.5 Australia 8. A DELIBERATE, CONSISTENT, AND SUCCESSFUL POLICY 8.1 Choosing between the Jews and the Jewish State 8.2 The Jewish Agency murders Jewish refugees 8.3 Continuing Zionist threats to Jews 8.4 A successful policy 8.5 Honourable human behaviour and the State of Israel 9. BETRAYAL IN THE GHETTOES 9.1 Jakob Gens 9.2 Most collaborators were Zionists 9.3 Only the Zionist Parties collaborated 10. ZIONISM IN GERMANY 10.1 Opposing the boycott 10.2 Endorsing Nazi racialist philosophy 10.3 Ammunition for Nazi Anti-Semitism 10.4 Assistance from the Gestapo 10.5 Zionist takeover of the Jewish community 11. CONCLUSION 11.1 Zionist enthusiasm about the Holocaust 11.2 Is Rabbi Shonfeld also 'offensive'? 11.3 Internationalism versus self-hatred SOURCE ... http://www.lastsuperpower.net/docs/nzccontents Posted by Leo Braun, Monday, 24 July 2006 6:26:45 PM
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When a deeper analysis of the macabre dilemma to attest that it's wrong to lump all the Jews together with the evil fanaticism, that supremacist Zionism has come to represent. Masqueraded via almighty chosen elite of the high morality virtues, versus long history of the born to rule Jew tyrants. Eager always to dispense Jew violence as the only tradition they ever had. In reflection on the merciless Zionist-Kapo crimes and frankenstein monstrosity perpetrated by the Nazi veiled Judeo Medicos in diabolical concentration camps. Outperformed solely by their Nazi proxies within WWII committed crimes against the humanity.
Where instead of Zionism being hope of the Jews, collateral blood of the Jew-lesser brethren became the political salvation of diabolical Zionism. Depicted by the world Jewry acclaimed witnesses to Auschwitz atrocities and Buchenwald horrors. In reflection on the tribal Jew bestiality within the evilly spiced and many millenniums old, the internecine Jew violence. Which afflicted Jew-race splinter group, when even children of our patriarchs quarrelled so incessantly. Was it merely an accident that Cain and Abel, the first two brothers of the Bible were murderer and victim?
Pondered Elie Wiesel as he wrote that his ability to deny supremacist Zionists evil unleashed against the Jew-lesser brethren ended with the Altalena incident. As it never occurred to him to know that Zionist perpetrators might be capable of spilling Jew blood. More so waging a war by the supremacist Zionist renegades on the ordinary Jews, and surely not on Jews, who refused to fight back. Such was a case of Altalena, so incomprehensible tragedy of the ship loaded with nearing a thousand of WWII refugees. So many ghetto survivors on board Altalena, which approached Tel Aviv shore under the rival Zionist-Irgun command.