The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Lies as a pretext for war > Comments

Lies as a pretext for war : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 29/6/2006

How easy it is for lies and propaganda to be used as a pretext for war.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. Page 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. ...
  8. 32
  9. 33
  10. 34
  11. All
There were only 3 relevant words in Bamboozled's post: "I don't understand."
Posted by Strewth, Thursday, 29 June 2006 12:04:29 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
BOAZY

On June 5, 2006, the Muckraker Report contacted the FBI Headquarters, (202) 324-3000, to learn why Bin Laden’s Most Wanted poster did not indicate that Usama was also wanted in connection with 9/11. The Muckraker Report spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page, Tomb said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”

Surprised by the ease in which this FBI spokesman made such an astonishing statement, I asked, “How this was possible?” Tomb continued, “Bin Laden has not been formally charged in connection to 9/11.” I asked, “How does that work?” Tomb continued, “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice than decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, Bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connected Bin Laden to 9/11.”
Posted by Steve Madden, Thursday, 29 June 2006 1:35:49 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Only the mentally ill can kill their fellow man with no passion. Everyone else needs to be worked up to it by lies and half truths.
Beware of the man.
Posted by Kenny, Thursday, 29 June 2006 1:55:35 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Steve, what you said was more a reflection of the administrative procedures of the US government/agencies, not about the fact of Bin Ladin's own admission.

Carl -Don't get me wrong, I won't portray Bush and co as spotless or whiter than snow, I am also a victim of the economic 'Right' and its attempt to influence the Australian government to 'tweak' our pharmeceutical benefits scheme to allow them to evergreen patents and charge us like wounded bulls for medicines we can get at generic rates.

I'm more coming from the 'Clash of Civilizations' angle. (though, to include Islam in that is playing very loose with terminology)

Strewthy, close but no cigar....again. (ridicule undermines your own credibility mate..such as remains of it.. very little I'd guess)

Here is why.

If you 'listen' and 'look' at such things as the London protests over the cartoons, you will observe that they refer to the SAME EVENTS as I do, but in their case they do it to try to terrorize us. Just one example:

"Remember the Jews of Khaibar" Now, who other than one who has studied Islamic history would make any sense out of that ? Yet...they make a sign and wave it in our faces in 2006 ! So, my references to that which to most is 'obscure and meaningless arab history' is rather -MOST up to date in terms of understanding the mindset of the most dangerous among the Islamic community.

While the average Muslim, or enlightened souls such as Irfan and Fellow Human are no danger, its not 'them' I worry about. They are hopefully not going to hack my email address, find my home address,hunt me down and slash the throats of my wife and children as happened to a coptic family in New Jersey who carried on similar 'on line' activities such as I do.

Misrepresentations of fact, or, even the manufacturing of incidents (Gulf of Tonkin/Vietnam... "Children overboard" (what an insult that was to our voting sense)) are common place in persuading the 'masses' to support War.
Pity the masses arn't as smart as us :)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Thursday, 29 June 2006 2:33:54 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
People inside the world trade centre thought it was a bomb.

apart from diverting our energies away from the issue, Iran is going to be taken over anyway as part of the US and Israels extreme makeover of the middle east.

Does not matter what, where, why or how, the propoganda machine has already began drip feeding us to build resentment and this is set to continue to the big day.

Good on you Irfan, i agree with you for a change.
Posted by Realist, Thursday, 29 June 2006 2:41:25 PM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
BOAZ,
I'm afraid that "famous" video of Bin Laden taking reponsibility for 911 has been widely discredited as a fake - conveniently discovered but badly done.

I'm more interested in why he was in Dubai Hospital for dialysis a few months before 911 and again in a military hospital in Pakistan for several days (in discussions with the CIA)- when he already on their "wanted list". That information was leaked by French intelligence in reponse to GWB's attacks on France before the Iraq war and has never been publicly discussed.

The US entry into the Spanish war, WW1, WW2, Vietnam and Granada were all based on staged events in which innocents died.
Posted by wobbles, Thursday, 29 June 2006 3:44:00 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. Page 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. ...
  8. 32
  9. 33
  10. 34
  11. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy