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Lies as a pretext for war : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 29/6/2006

How easy it is for lies and propaganda to be used as a pretext for war.

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Coach,

That MEMRI video clip of Gaddaffi is bizarre.

Just goes to show what the west is up against,irrespective of who is telling what Porkies, and for what reason.

Then again the Islamacists have made porky telling an art form. Taqqiya is it not.?

The threat to Europe that Gaddaffi talks about is real.

Not bad for a religion that has done bugger all for humanity.
Posted by bigmal, Thursday, 29 June 2006 4:07:29 PM
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Here there be fruitcakes - http://www.unitedpeoples.net/

"The destructive forces threatening the planet are not difficult to identify. All destructive power and viciousness is concentrated in the corporate US empire of evil. On top of the evil is the bunch of fascistic religious fanatics, nazionists, neocons and other rightwing extremists within the corporate ruling US circles. The religious ones are looking forward to receiving their exclusive premiums after the end of the world.

Their power bases - like those of Hitler and Bush - essentially are launching platforms for their deadly revenge for their evil childhood. The culture of sadistic child mistreatment among white, in particular Anglo-American, parents must stop now. From the point of view of Mother Earth, humiliation of a child is the absolutely worst of all crimes.

For 500 years it has been great fun and necessary for the sake of colonialism to torture the kids physically and mentally. But the sane part of human kind must now stop this luxurious sport, if the planet is to be saved.

The urgent cultural revolution must replace the 3000 years old unspeakably devastating set of 10 commandments ...

The cultural revolution will be grossly enhanced by the eradication of the cancer tumor of the planet which immediately will be followed by a recovery from the worldwide cultural setback and metastatic oppression imposed by the empire of terror.

Depopulation is a significant part of the evil empire policies ... Next after the general imperialist policies with billions of victims, AIDS by far is the most successful of the US-made genocides serving its depopulation schemes ...

The latest series of other US genocides include:

* September 11, 2001 ... as pretext for Afghanistan and Iraq
* SARS
* The Boxing Day tsunami
* Car (not suicide) bombing of Iraqi mosques and seemingly meaningless assassinations of Shiite alternating with Sunni clerics for the purpose of instigating the civil war that is the only possible remaining pretext for the colonialists to stay on top of the oil."

Anyone for joining them?? Ha, ha.
Posted by Savage Pencil, Thursday, 29 June 2006 4:33:32 PM
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savage

I have high dose methyl prenisolone to blame for my loopy comments. These Guys are fruit cakes.
Posted by Steve Madden, Thursday, 29 June 2006 5:02:15 PM
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Mr Irfan Yusuf, as a lawyer you should know that lies are so ubiquitous that truth has almost become extinct, and 'truth' was dealt many mortal blows by liberal censorship in its many disguises. “That’s offensive, or racist, or homophobic, or misogynistic etc etc.”
The truth is that muslims want to take over the world and the main advantage the non-muslims have is nuclear. Bush might be a thickhead but I prefer stupid American freedom over being ruled by mad mullahs. Religion is lies, politics is lies, advertising is lies, but take a look at a chunk of truth right here. http://www.ogrish.com/archives/russian_diplomats_executed_by_mujahedeen_shura_council_Jun_25_2006.html
Posted by citizen, Thursday, 29 June 2006 5:44:51 PM
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"it was Islam that started the war on the US . Does 9/11 still rind (sic) a bell?
There are at least 2 major flaws with this statement.

Firstly 9/11 was not the start of any conflict. This was just another episode in a conflict that has gone on for many years. Who started it, who is to blame? You could argue until the cows come home over this but the US certainly didn't have clean hands by the time of 9/11. And the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

Secondly, while the apparent perpetrators of 9/11 were Muslim, that doesn't make Islam as a religion culpable. This is like saying many Catholic priests are paedophiles, therefore the Catholic religion is responsible for paedophilia.

Of course lies and propoganda are used as a pretext for war - by all sides. Otherwise you would never get the people to support the carnage
Posted by rossco, Thursday, 29 June 2006 6:35:37 PM
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Careful, citizen. If I'm not mistaken, you are about to be accused by Irf of ‘hating all Muslims’.

< .. how did such an obvious lie find its way into reports of major newspapers and speeches of prime ministers>

Probably because it’s not difficult to believe, given the close and abiding connection between Nazism and Islam plus the anti-Semitism of Muslims in the Middle East.

In 2005, Iranians saw a television fiction series titled, ‘Zahra's Blue Eyes’ or ‘For You, Palestine’. The program follows the career of a fictional Israeli political candidate who supports the harvesting of the organs of Palestinian children by Israeli doctors. The fictional candidate is especially interested in obtaining seven-year old Zahra's eyes for his own son because her eyes remind him of his wife's. This series is mentioned in the US State Department's report on anti-Semitism around the world.

http://www.voanews.com/uspolicy/archive/2005-01/a-2005-01-25-2-1.cfm

From 1963 to 1979, Jews enjoyed cultural and religious autonomy under Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. This came to an end with the advent of the Islamic regime.

At an international conference on Palestine, held in Tehran in 2001, Ayatollah Khamene’i stated that there was 'evidence on hand that a large number of non-Jewish hooligans and thugs of Eastern Europe were forced to migrate to Palestine as Jews.'

The supposed purpose was 'to install in the heart of the Islamic world an anti-Islamic state under the guise of supporting the victims of racism' thus dividing the world of Islam.

Khamene’i added that historical documents demonstrated 'close collaboration of the Zionists with Nazi Germany' and that the 'exaggerated numbers' of Jews killed in the Holocaust, were 'fabricated to solicit the sympathy of world public opinion, lay the ground for the occupation of Palestine and justify the atrocities of the Zionists'. (IRNA, 24 April 2001).

So why is anyone surprised that people would believe the yellow star story?
Posted by dee, Thursday, 29 June 2006 6:51:08 PM
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