Further on the topic to expose master-deceivers!

Dee ..."I agree with you, but how do we deal with those members of society who are of low intelligence or who refuse to listen to the voice of reason"? A propos-surreptitious elders-of-zion utilisation movers-n-shakers over-the-years in attempt to score crucial sponsorship from European imperialists or an Ottoman empire's, as Zionist connivers sought-to-establish their significant foothold in Palestine. No wonder for instigated-arm-twisting of the recalcitrant Sultan of Turkey, to grant-Zionist-vagabonds an autonomous statelet in return for disinformation-tactics-emission, bent to discredit in a typical Zionist-chutzpah-style, otherwise mounting publicity, concerning Armenians genocide.

Now surely to the moral people, it would appear anomalous that-such-a-deliberate mass-scale-extermination by Turks to-be defended by Vladimir Jabotinsky (and other Zionist leaders). Not to the unyielding WZO, known to thrive over-dead-bodies. Adamant at the time to take-a-care of Ottoman Empire's escalating debts (due to high-interest-charges). Yet all the efforts ended-up in a-fiasco as Abdul Hamid a Jew himself, knew perfectly well that Zionist sought-autonomous-statelet in Palestine was merely an-overture towards the actual goal to embed Zionist destabilisation in a midst Ottoman's empire.

At the time faded also Zionist-trickle-migration as-a-first-wave by-hook or by-crook in enticed Jew-settlers to Palestine (around 1927) found an arid-n-stony dirt too-hard to-tackle within their futile exertion in-agriculture, an-occupation Jews hardly touched for-donkey-years. What halted volunteer-Jew-influx into land of the "milk and honey". Above all after the overwhelmingly reached conclusion by the would-be-pioneer-farmers. Who felt pretty-well assimilated in Europe. Hence, they didn't really wanted to swap their cultural way-of-life for the barren-wasteland-toil and utopian-Zionist-dreams.

Knowing that Germany's Jew-lesser brethren would never voluntarily leave their homeland, Zionist operatives looked elsewhere as they turned instead to the Tsarist court, to-seek needed support, facilitating-Jew-lesser brethren uprooting to Palestine. Apparently Russia tolerated at first Zionism as long as rascal-Jews-purging was underway (ensuing Zionist-sown-calamity). Moscow police-bureau-chief was known to develop his own strategy as he placed division between the Tsarist and Zionist opponents. Yet what an irony was for the oppressed Jew-lesser brethren, subjugated via twin-prong-oppression, to produce Russia's first socialist proletariat organisation Bund (General Jew Workers League).

Although such-a-newly found Bund was clandestinely tackled via Zionist-mobilised-in-turn an-alternative Poalei-Zion (Workers-of-Zion) bandits. Created deliberately by belligerent Zionists to sabotage and smash-Jew-workers-movement. But as some-sane-elements within the Zionist ranks responded to the-repressive-tactics (that fuelled mass discontent) by concerning themselves with-Jew-worker's-rights in Russia ... as-a-penalty Jewish-Colonial-Trust sustained a fatal-blow (cutting proletariat's finance). As dilapidated Jew-bank-function became limited solely to the Jew-Tax absorption, intended-to-fund-deportations to Palestine. Yet as a situation deteriorated even-worse, moreover Jew workers joined revolutionary parties instead.

Insofar Russia's sympathy for the-Zionist-project remained intact as-long-as it produced rascal-Jew-uprooting to Palestine. Yet talks a propos Palestine migration receded as local cultural sense-of-ancestral-belonging sprang and evolved into-Jew-nationalism in Russia. So detrimentally to the imperialist-Russian-charter of support for the Zionist-autonomous-statelet in Palestine. Conditional to Jew revolutionaries ceased struggle against the Tsarist regime. However working-class Jew-proletariat not-to-call-off their struggle for the elementary-human-rights in return for-a-vague promise of the Zionist autonomous statelet in a distant Palestine.

So imperialist Russia's monarchical aristocracy within the 'rule-by-the-best', had a few choice words for Theodor Herzl. Who in some stage in l903, was so utterly desperate as to consider a surreal proposition from Britain. As a substitute for Palestine to accept an alternative Zionist colony in Kenyan Highlands. Yet a hard-core Russian-Zionists rejected such a bizarre to them notion, while threatening to ditch WZO, if Uganda was ever considered. In line with the megalomaniac Herzl's vision of himself as an-another Jew-Cecil-Rhodes. To whom hardly mattered where a future-Jew-colony to-be situated. But to most Russian-Zionists it meant an extension of biblical-heritage (to-culminate-in-erection Zionist-Vatican upon the Haram-as-Sharif).

Enraged Russian Zionists even tried to assassinate Herzl's lieutenant Max Nordau, and only Herzl's "premature-death" prevented WZO collapse. At the time when imperial Russia had not-a-slightest influence with Turk's ruling-class aristocracy, who saw Russia as their enemy. Thus with WZO without any army, the mighty mafia was gifted nonetheless with Chaim Weizmann's spun-intrigues in London, just as Vladimir Jabotinsky scored Tsarist accord in-lieu-of-a-volunteer Russian-Jew-Legion, to help Great-Britain in taking Palestine by force. As thousands-of-young Russian-Jew-dissidents (still-Russian-citizens) were threatened with deportation by Jew_Home_Secretary Herbert-Samuel, if they didn't volunteer to the British-Army.

Dee

At the risk of giving you an excuse to carry on –

I personally haven’t said much about Leo – mainly because I can’t understand what he is rambling on about.

Leo – if you were a bit more clear and concise about what you are saying we might take you seriously.

Anyway, from what I can gather he is anti-Zionist, not necessarily anti-Semitic. And I think he might be Jewish. I could be wrong on both fronts. Please clarify Leo?

By the way dee, regarding your comment: “And to use KKK stats from 1924 as an example of some kind of moral equivalence is beyond lame”.

You miss the point again dee, I am not engaging in moral equivalency, my discussion of other terrorist organisations, including the KKK in 1924 was to refute your point that the “West” didn’t have problems prior to Muslim immigration. The “West” has had plenty of problems of its own making. It also could be argued that the current “war on terror” is also of its own making.

You can’t blame all of the problems we have on one ethnic or religious group – they do not exist in a vacuum – and are both affected by, and affect, objective events.

Nor should the rest of us discriminate against or persecute an ethnic or religious group because of your small minded prejudice.

There are more fundamental issues at play than religious belief and ideology.

Tao - reread please:

'European governments are reducing the entry of Muslims into their countries for very good reasons – soaring crime, rape (two thirds of rapes in Norway are committed by Muslim immigrants), hate crimes (like the threats against the Danish cartoonists and the murder of Theo van Gogh), extremists (who are only a fraction according to you) threatening anyone who raises a voice against them – like the charmer holding up the 'Behead anyone who disrespects Islam' banner in London."

Of course the West has problems, no culture is perfect. However, until the Muslim invasion, we did not have these particular problems. Immigrants threatening to behead anyone who 'disrepects' their religion? Rioting and burning over a few lame cartoons? 'Honour' killings?

Before you say 'its only a minority' may I remind you of the old adage: 'bad drives out good'. The 'minority' you speak of is large enough to destabalise Western society. At the risk of repetition, go to Europe and see for yourself the disaster brought about by Muslim immigration.

"... more fundamental issues at play than religious belief and ideology."

For Islamic extremists, there are no other issues than:

1. their religion and their desire to force it onto others at all costs. Islam is a polity as well as a religion.

2. their pathological hatred of Israel.

A YouGov poll among Britain's Muslims immediately after the July 7 bombings (London's The Daily Telegraph, July 23) found 6% believed them fully justified. A further 24%, while not condoning the bombings, expressed sympathy with the feelings and motives of their perpetrators. Some 32% believe "Western society is decadent and immoral" and "Muslims should seek to bring it to an end".

But hey, its 'only a minority'.

You might also consider the fact that there is violence everywhere that Muslims live - almost every country in the world is now threatened by the actions of Islamic extremists. Perhaps you could tell us which country is the exception?

I dont need an excuse to 'carry on' - the facts are clear enough.

No need to reply to this post.

• Tao!

Point taken with-a-sinking feeling just-to-realise that the role-model conscientious citizen's stance taken for the Jew-lesser brethren survival, contrary to the silver-tongued Zionists usurpation of an entire Jewish race, has been written-off simply "as virtually indecipherable form of a concept, except-for-being some sort of anti-Jewish-rant". Undoubtedly it sickens decent majority of OLO forum users to-listen over-n-over again to the fanatical Zionist slur emissions. Dispatched willy-nilly as-norm against the ordinary Jews, such as myself. Who has been viciously smeared as a "resident-Jew-hater" and utmost ludicrously as a "racist anti-Semite".

Having said that, inevitably at this point I became a prime-candidate to face their relentless ''Self-Hating Jew'' slur emissions. Utilised deliberately by the Zionist radicals to harass, humiliate and intimidate some of the sane-raised-Jews, within-an-attempt to deflect OLO forum debate from the real issues in question. Especially pertinent at the moment with the hijacked world destiny at the crossroads. Where people like the indoctrinated Zionists (veiled under revolved aliases cast on the internet forums) having a-real-stake in blurring disparity between the Jews.

How else they to utilise otherwise our Jew-lesser brethren embodiment (scapegoated as the human shield) to deflect focus from the actual plague. Synonymous with Solomonic blood aristocracy, an-almighty chosen to-rule the world, within the 'rule by the best'. Whereas to grasp the core essence of such a bizarre phenomenon, one ought to probe into the root of Jewanderthal species and their godlike will-imposition upon-humble Homosapiens, latest entrants on the planet earth, as proverbial Goyim and Shiksas. Who survived since time immemorial manifold millenniums span the malevolent psycho-primates breed savagery.

Just as a mercurial scourge via surreptitious metamorphosis emerged into Jewvoracious aristocracy by the monarchy rule, traversing isolationist psychopaths induced interbreeding (spare-a-though for the slain in their midst, our bellowed Jew princes Diana). To emanate into Roman empire's reign, as-a-mighty-evil transformed into anti-Christ Vatican to-subjugate plebeians and coerce payment of taxes. Ratified by cuckoo-nest incubated tyrant-regimes, as embryonic Christianity was hijacked by anti-Christ Vatican, presided ever-since by 266 Jew-Popes. Intertwined into competing mass of psychopaths used religious lies as a pretext for war between the blue-blooded rivalry-royals.

Obviously such a ground-breaking revelations extent to-take some-time to-digest, in the meantime I might be accused with the simplistic analysis of a very-complex-issue. Not if we're going-to-explore in a meanwhile the correlative phenomenon, where cuckoo-nest incubated world rulers seem-to-toe the line obligated by the elders-of-zion. Whilst the majority of the population they-preside-over, being categorically opposed-to. For the simple reason, because our leaders are never chosen from the prevailing genome of the populous, they dare-to-allege to-represent.

However a vision-impaired dill-flock (within the blind-leading-blind guidelines) haven't got any-clue a propos Jew-rulers practiced any kind-of-religions (concocted by Jews anyway). Bearing in-mind that since time immemorial Jewish aristocracy within the rule 'by-the-best' impersonated myriad of ethnic-groups via its vastly incubated ari-stock-race sly look-a-likes.

Commonly termed as Western, Eastern, Asian, Oriental, Middle-Eastern, Dutch, Portuguese, French, English, German, American, Aussie, Italian, Irish, Iranian, Spanish, Polish, Czech, Russian, Hungarian, Rumanian, Indian, African, Afghani, Arab (add any omitted).

Within the kaleidoscope of religions to pose as Christians, Catholics, Chaldean Christians, Protestants, Anglicans, Lutherans, Evangelic (Hill-Song), Greek (Russian) Orthodox, Hindus, Muslims (and so forth) in a variety of faith wraps to suit application.

Take a deep-breath as difficulty is expected for novices while trying to associate the particular ethnic-group people's image with their rulers or preachers likeness. When not much in common was to-be found in transplanted reflections. Derived solely of the-Jew-cuckoo frequented nests. Prominently practised within the terrain of bloody conquests in the aftermath Roman/Spanish crusades. Where even remainder of the scorched-nests were-Jew-cuckoo cross-pollinated.

As-a-challenge for dedicated observer with propensity in deciphering facial depictions (once having sufficiently trained eye), may I suggest to employ an-acuity to-detect quite a unique kind-of-features. Not meant for any derogatory manners acrimony, under racist exploits. In fact our Jew characteristics are redeeming indeed, for devoted onlooker. Don't expect for it to occur overnight, but it eventually to-happen.

For starters, one to-commence observation of non-caucasian rulers or preachers, who amazingly to-be found quite distinct from the populous, they ought-to-represent. Then one to-progress into-scrutiny (obvious to-lesser extent) the caucasian rulers or preachers, embodying as-norm our Jew reflections.