"Keith-you commented on my post on the abuse of moslems in Australia and then said moslem ignorance was the problem and I thought that was poor taste."

You claimed the above.

Here's what I've said.

'However the problem is not of bigotry but more ignorance... Underlying our not so 'mushy' multuiculturalism are precepts concerning commitment to the Constitution, parliamentary democracy, freedom of speech and religion, english as the national language, the rule of law, acceptance and equality.

On many occassions I have asked individual Muslims of their acceptance of these notions. Indeed in fairness I have followed Irfan's lead and now often ask for a definition of Australian Multi-culturalism.

Many avoid the question, others answer in an oblique way that says little but a great deal by inference, and many are totally unaware of these things.'

And

'I have however noticed many immigrants ignorant (in the sense of simply not knowing) of the official statements with regard to Australian multiculturalism. I’ve also found few Australians aware of the official position. '

If you're offended by those comments then you obviously failled comprehension in primary school or are carrying access on one of your shoulders.

You've got a dyspeptic view of Scout. Go ahead check the dictionary...check 'ignorance' while you are about it.

Dear Aziliz...

I'm not sure what you are on about ? You listed a whole truckload of 'Sins of International Relations' where the players mentioned were Western. But change the dates, and places, and substitute Arab names etc..and you have the same thing.

In fact.. all you did was illustrate the very fallen condition of mankind. I heard that King Leopold of Belgium regarded the Congo as his personal plaything, and who cares about a few million blacks who needed to be dealt with in order to keep it that way....

Are you saying "The West is bad" ? of course it is.. nationstates are no different to Individuals.. they fight over toys and resources.

But woffling on as you did, suggests you think this 'ailment' is limited to the West and that Arabs are simply the poor innocent hapless victims. Why did you not also list the sins of the Moghuls ? The atrocities in India ? etc etc.. the attemped rape and pillage of France with conquered Spain as the launching pad ?

The answer to this problem is not in simply listing all those sins, it is in turning to the Sinless forgiver of sin and the renewer of hearts and minds.. Jesus, Messiah, KING of kings and LORD of Lords, at who's feet one day all humankind will bow the knee..willingly or otherwise.

Azilis, are you forgiven ? do you know new life in Christ ? Is Jesus not only the Good Shepherd, but YOUR Shepherd ? He is 'The'Way, but is he 'your' way ? Is he 'your' light ? I address this to all of us.

Wow, Poor Redneck cops it, All- is coping it: Do you Aziliz and some others understand a word in the Lexicon “Jocularity.”
If you were a real Australian you would understand exactly what that means.
Aziliz, I do not know what point you are making, but you obviously can read, but can not comprehend a subject that conflicts with your programmed Ideology.
On that note I wish you good luck, gauging by your responses, you need it- as your teachers have abandoned you in your hour of need. My wife in fact does not work, I do. It is my skills and knowledge that maintains My Buisiness to earn a HONEST living and trade with those that also have honor and seek value, Honesty and integrity and ethical, those measures escape you, you espouse to the parasite living, and when the host is drained, it dies, and so do you.
Baurocrats who comment on this site, Remember that. It is someone else’s Blood you live off and obviously not your own intelligence, you would not survive in the real word, so you make a world up that you feel more comfortable in, with no care who you destroy.

Scout, strayan as well as AMSADL have made shallow personal attacks on comments I made – which I have put down to opening their collective mouths before putting their brains into gear, which is a pity really because some of their later post actually have some merit, however once bitten, it is hard to befriend the biter.

Scout, As I said, I respect OUR women collectively, however I make exceptions, but you would fail abysmally to comprehend, as your stagnant brain has been left far in the wake of your ever evolving motor-mouth, with baring fangs snapping at all and sundry, for little reason other than they hold differing views to your narrow mindset. Also, as your attention span appears to be somewhat limited, would it be too much to ask not to stray too far from the discussion topic?

But aside from that, if you troubled your little mind, you will see from other posts that I have been an expatriate for some 30 odd years and in every country I did not impose my Australian ways where I went – I mixed in with the local population, I talked with and learned their language and I socialized with them. I know it would be far beyond your ken – but why would I make a pariah of myself, by being arrogant, obnoxious and ignorant of local custom, and laws

Where I originated from is not the point – I am a citizen of the world who has made Australia my home and whilst I may listen to your argument, I do not have to agree – and the more you try and shove your pointless opinions down my throat the more of an arrogant bastard you become – and you lose your argument.

Having said that, one of my best friends is – or should I say was, a Muslim, but he has seen the light and that whatever good in Islam has been far outweighed by the evil bastards – as in the Catholics, holy rollers and fundamentalist and Zionist cretins running the American expansionism into everywhere.

As I said previously Ifran has two major points against him – first being a lawyer, the second his Islamic attitude against Australian’s dislike for the Lebanese Muslims sectarian warfare against the Australian Christian majority.

Again as I said quite early in this discussion, Lebanese Muslims WILL not integrate with the current Australian society because they are Muslims, because they wish to impose their laws and customs on the host nation.

As much as I despise Costello, I agree with him 100% when he said “people coming to Australia should have the same respect for Australian values as visitors to a mosque who are asked to take off their shoes.” I add – “If you do not like our laws and custom – then you are free to leave and go to a Muslim country with laws and customs that suits you” I make no demands that you abandon your customary way – except for those that clash with this country’s laws and parliament.

I also really abhor the detention of children. But they are being used as pawns by so called “asylum seekers”, who are Muslim and they are not following the usual scope for asylum – and that is to seek asylum in the FIRST country they come to – Why indeed not stop in Malaysia, or Indonesia both Muslim countries, well known for their care and benevolence for fellow Muslims in need…? Perhaps that is where Aziliz’s relative relocated to enjoy the benefits of Islam?

However do not think I pick only the faults in Islam, the Catholic Church had it own series of Inquisitions, the conniving Jews of the old testament were no better than the Kazar “Jews” of today – Religion is a battle for the control of minds.

And yes my poster of pathos, I also have enjoyed a good meal of rice, fish, meat, chicken and local delicacies such as dog, cat, snake, the odd tree grub, some rather delicious crocodile as well as some others that I am not quite sure of – so tell me AMSADL, what is your favourite repast?

Aziliz,

No one needs to go back and reads your old posts because you are repeating yourself in any case, copying and pasting the same old rants. Read one and you read them all.

There is NO point in producing a never ending list of atrocities if you can't even tell why things are the ways they are.

So stop your ranting for a moment. Here's something to consider:

First would you agree with me that everyone is quite unique in one's own way? It's like this unique set of 'genetic codes' in us which influences how we think and do things differently.

Now a simple question for you - Is there a set of 'genetic codes' somewhere, the underlying factor of a steering force which caused the French and British to do what they did, one that seduced Winston Churchill into 'gasing' the Kurds, caused British/US to manipulate the Middle East and to torture Iraqis in Abu Graib.. etc...etc...?

If so, what is it and where is it