Part I

Irfan still hasn't answered a couple of posters queries about where he stands on Islamic, or Sharia, Law.

I wonder how Muslims reconcile their obvious support for a moral code they believe to be divinely inspired - with the undefeatable logic of western developed principles of human rights.

I won't hold my breath waiting for a response.

Irfan posted a question before about people's feelings towards the hypothetical situation of Muslims being rounded up, even killed. Such a tactic is designed to keep Australians believing the dogma shoved down our throats that Muslims are victims.

It makes me feel good knowing that the vast majority of Australians, thanks to curiosity & the internet, have learnt much about Islam themselves instead of swallowing the crap leftists dish out.

I was amazed though to see on ABC's Insiders Program, leftist extremist journalist David Marr commenting that Sharia is barbaric and that no one would want to live under it.

I wonder if he knows he offended a billion people with that "racist", and "islamophobi" response?

I encourage the defensive Irfan to read the other Muslim article here, by a Somalian I believe, who apart from being self-critical beyond what I've ever seen from any Muslim worldwide, doesn't really sound Muslim at all.

His insight into Hamas, and how without the west, Palestine would dissolve - since it is ONLY the west who gives aid.

On that note, is anybody else sick of hearing Muslims cry that the issue of Palestine is what drives their anger?

I recently saw a revealing documentary on the ABC of all places, which showed the appalling treatment Palestinians suffer at the hands of the Lebanese who took them in.....

Part II

.....they aren't allowed to leave the refugee camp, even though they have been there for 55 years! They can't work outside the camp, they can't buy land with their money (incidentally, the only reason any of them have anything to do is from aid from the west. Lebanon refused to pay for their education and other services) or anything one would think a Muslim would offer his "brothers of Palestine".

It's the same in Jordan & Syrian refugee camps. So don't let any Muslim EVER tell you that they care about Palestine, as there are no movements to help these people, apart from westerners that is.

Sixty Minutes showed some good stuff about the medieval practices of Egyptian abbatoirs, although that didn't surprise me. What did though is that the ANIMAL RIGHTS groups are finally going after the worst offenders, which just so happen to be the Islamic nations.

Could someone explain to me about "halal"? I have heard that in order to be halal, the animal must be tied up by it's hind legs, have it's throat slit while concious, and bled to death, to fulfill the ritual. Is this true?

I wonder though how the many leftists who write here weigh this up, they believe in cultural relativism, that ALL CULTURES are equal, so how do they attack these cultural practices?

It's the leftists that think Muslims are beneath us, not capable of reason, and look down at them, they are your enemy Irfan, not the right.

Once again, I ask Irfan to tell us whether he supports Sharia. I think that as a public figure who writes articles, we have a right to know whether you believe in the same principles to that of NAZI Germany, with totalitarianism, witholding the rights of others, etc.

Yet, it's Irfan that believes HE is the victim, insanity.

I had a letter in the Daily Telegraph today, in the To The Point Section. Anybody agree with my point?

David

I fully support your attitude and comments in regartd to Redneck and Scout.

I found Scout's contributions, even though I disagree with her, representative, accurate, decent and lively.

She shows great spirit.

Keith

Benjamin

Irfan has a reasonable explanation of his position on sharia law on the thread by Bashir.

He explains the extent and jurisdicition of sharia law in quite simple terms. Even I can understand his explanation. I accept his position as reasonable and accatable.

Yoo Hooooo, David Latimer.

C'mon mate. I didn't pick a fight with you. You tossed the gauntlet in my face. Here I am, waiting in the arena for your reply, sword in hand. And the whole world is watching. You can't keep hiding out there in cyberspace forever hoping that I will go away.

Although I can inderstand your dilemma. It is easy to act the role of the Paragon of Virtue if you put on your ideological blinkers and pretend that no minority group can be considered a threat. But along comes a redneck who poses a simple, direct question and you are stumped first ball.

Politicians like you have been kissing minority ass for so long that you forgot that the government of Australia was there to represent the interests of the Australian people. Not the Lebanese people or the Sudanese people or the Iraqi people.

The state of NSW has built one university in the last ten years, but it has built four prisons and reopened the ancient Parramatta jail because supply for prison accomadation can no longer keep pace with demand. With 50% of the inmates in French jails Muslims, then you hardly need a certificate from Mensa to figure out the ghastly social implications if we keep importing immigrants from this particular trouble prone religious group.

Keith

I appreciate the clarification you made with your post from Sunday, 26 February 2006 6:22:43 PM.

I took issue because you stated previously "On many occassions I have asked individual Muslims of their acceptance of these notions" - without any detail of your approach. It sounded, to me, very heavy handed. Instead you were genuinely seeking information and knowledge. I am always in favour of learning.

I am fortunate to have had the opportunity to get to know a number of Muslim people very well indeed. Have attended a couple of weddings - as well as informal home meals. Plenty of room for relaxed conversation about absolutely anything. I hope you can develop similar relationships.

Unfortunately the same cannot be said of Redneck - I thought Coach was a sad case, but Redneck has managed to shatter any credibility he may have had. I will always read his future posts with his scathing attack on me in mind.

Redneck - your anger will destroy you. At the very least check your blood pressure. I also suggest meditation. The link below is Victorian but it lists Meditation centres in other states. It is Buddhist - so you needn't be scared.

http://www.aloka.dhamma.org/

Finally a big thank-you to Keith and David Latimer. I appreciate your thoughts - however I do not have a problem with Redneck's rant - he revealed a lot that is sad about himself. I have no intention of requesting that his comments be deleted.

Best we all know what Redneck is truly like. As they say 'the truth is out there'.

Regards

Dianne