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An ignorant Australian? : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 22/2/2006

Editorial writers of 'The Australian' seek to paint a picture of a monolithic culture of recently arrived Muslim migrants.

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As an "armchair nazi" I wondered how I would look look if I had a toothbrush moustache so I held a toothbrush in front of my face in the mirror . Maybe it was the handle, but it wasn't me! I will just have to keep on trying.
Keyser Trad and other Islamic luminaries have stated that Australia was settled by "reject crooks and scum of Europe"
I would say,"Look at what we are getting now!"
Also compare the Australia built by 'crooks and scum' with the ugliness and brutality of the failed ME countries.
We have had just over two hundred years to bring about a modern, thriving civilisation compared to thousands of years of backward miserable countries where, unfortunately, many of todays migrants are coming from, dragging their backward miserable ideals with them.
John Howard and Peter Costello are talking the truth... but ten years too late. Why it has taken the government so long to wake up to the facts of multiculture only they can answer. They have a lot to answer for.
Posted by mickijo, Friday, 24 February 2006 1:45:56 PM
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“Editorial writers of 'The Australian' seek to paint a picture of a monolithic culture of recently arrived Muslim migrants”
Great, we can wave to them when they board the ship to depart. Without any welfare. We Australians hate to see disappointment in peoples faces, and we are sorry things did not work out- Maybe in another 2000 years- give it a try, until then Good BY.
Ill Promise I will not cry.

Mickijo, do not worry, Irfan calling anyone an armchair Nazi is like being called Bart Simpson.
For a population of supposed 280 odd thousand , don't they reach Authoritarian status fast, and then dictate what you can and not do in our home, and then try shut us up when we resist, sounds NAZI to me, so do not concern your self. It is a reverse tactic they use to install guilt. Arab stuff you know.
Fellow colleague: Irfan hay, Hahahahahahahahahah. Fairdinkum .
Posted by All-, Friday, 24 February 2006 3:17:53 PM
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Response to David Latimer:

Not to sure the UK parallel makes me feel better as:
1- Terrorist attacks from the domestic population are not good.
2 – On Sheik “kill-all-infidels” Al-Masri - “According to a POPULUS survey from December 2005, Muslims in Britain oppose his views by a factor of two-to-one; however, among the age group 18-24, the figures are reversed, and two out of three who expressed an opinion agree with his views.” Any support whatsoever for him is also not good.
3 – The idea of demonstrations by people dressed as suicide bombers in Sydney is likewise not good.
4 – Having spent 5 years in the UK and 2 of them just outside of Bradford, I would have to say that if the UK experience is what we are looking towards, Coach is starting to sound better. Apologist Europe is gradually disappearing up its own bottom by tolerating the intolerant Islamics with the UK probably running a close third to France and Germany. Note – not good.

Interestingly, the Western country with the most successful Muslim population is the USA (or Great Satan if you prefer). The USA does not subscribe to multicultural dogma, preferring an integration/assimilation model. Given the bile spewing forth from Canberra in the last few weeks, I wonder if we are not heading towards a more US model sooner than later.

Response to Keith:
I reckon you can connect the dots on that one mate.

Response to Arjay:
I would prefer we were discussing things with Hazim el Mazri as a representative of Islamic Australia than the two-faced jokers we are dealing with now. He is smart, well respected and anyone who reckons he has not embraced Australian culture would need to get their head read. From what I can see from this forum, they could also do worse than Fellow_Human. I have no idea why Islamic hierarchies seem to end up with the dregs rising to the top rather than the bottom – any suggestions that do not include lessons in ancient history would be appreciated (perhaps its like local council politics).
Posted by jimmyj, Friday, 24 February 2006 4:13:00 PM
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I haven't been here for a while, but I've just realised there is another one.......(deleted for flaming) here. Another leftist who reacts on emotion, using no logic, has probably never caught a train let alone been to western Sydney, which just so happens to be where I grew up in the 1980's & 90's.

David Latimer, you need to be educated. People who spout off emotional gunk like "Now it's fashionable to hate Muslims" are deluding themselves. People have serious discussions here, about real threats.

Your posts reveal your naivety. People like you presume to call Australians racist without any facts. To go on your chemotherapy reference, when logic prevails in the west, and the leftist media are removed, those with your attitudes will beg for forgiveness.

I'll go before I get nasty.
Posted by Matthew S, Friday, 24 February 2006 6:30:55 PM
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Irfan

Have you read the latest from your fellow Muslim Bashir Goth?
He's saying similar to a great many of your 'Arm-chair Nazis'.

Now either Bashir is an Arm chair Nazi or ...well you can guess the alternative. In case you cannot 'self-criticism' is of huge import.
Posted by keith, Friday, 24 February 2006 7:00:09 PM
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To JimmyJ:

My intention was not to make anyone feel better. If you remember saying that we should watch Europe so "we can react to it by whatever means are necessary", it's in that context I refer to the UK, as the parallels are better than with France. I believe Australia is appropriately reacting and picking up the lessons, so you are right about that.

A good point about the US, though they describe themselves as a “melting pot”, neither multicultural nor assimilative. They have a strict separation of church and state and there’s strength in that. Their citizenship classes are an excellent idea. Why on earth call the US, the Great Satan? Not funny.

To DavidBOAZ:

I simply wanted to keep the police out of any fictionalising. Nevertheless, it is pointless to say “who spoke about incarcerating ALL Muslims?” and talk about it being a ploy, when you’ve added the word “ALL” yourself. I said “mass incarceration” because you said that “mass demonstrations by Muslims” on cultural matters would be “close to an Act of War”. It could be a legal and peaceful demonstration? Ifram just said “muslims”. Mickijo said he wanted “every single imam deported, every mosque closed down and every Islamic education establishment likewise closed down. Peacefully if possible, forcefully if necessary” – echoes of Kristallnacht.

A 1975 High Court judgement said: “A law which kept migrants or anyone else in a subordinate role inconsistent with the status of a free person, would be incompatible with a fundamental basis of our Constitution.”

Peter Costello: “There is one law we are all expected to abide by. It is the law enacted by the Parliament under the Australian Constitution”

Think about our fundamental values, our constitution, the supremacy of law and what Australia stood for and fought over 100+ years. Why expect any rational person to replace all this for exaggerated bigotry?

This is the bait of Osama Bin Laden. He’s saying “we muslims are gonna get you” and you believe it and criticise Irfan for opposing that. That’s madness.

To the Fashionista:

Please quote correctly. Very inaccurate post.
Posted by David Latimer, Saturday, 25 February 2006 2:44:27 AM
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