Keith, I got a dictionary out to translate what you wrote in German. Have you been to university? If so, you would not write what you did. Given your ignorance, perhaps you should try enrolling in a BA -- if you could get in, that is.
Friedrich: your initial post was a shocker. Why don't you come out and write what you REALLY think of the Jews and Arabs?
Dump Hux!

From the beginning this all about the high crime wave in south western Sydney. Or if not in south west Sydney by people who reside there. It was all about the criminals. Only the criminals.

However too many people were so fearful and scared of "what other countries will think" to even complain about criminals, and criminals only, was considered racist. The Cronulla situation has been building for years and a direct plea for police action was called for about 6 years ago.

So a direct plea to police was ignored. Press reports on issues relating to the sexual attacks RACIST RACIST RACIST by left leaning and by muslims themselves. Other incidents ignored by press and police alike. Any mention fo the facts and you were fronted by a hysterical, non-muslim usually, political types like you were the criminal instead of one complaining about crime.

Muslims jumped on board and any mention in the negative and racist, racist racist. Really minor issues were reported to the discrimination baord though they still manage the numbers jews lodge. (who is screaming for their rights btw?)

And so it became all about muslims. Because if people don't feel they have a right to have a small percentage of criminals within a group dealt with effectivley then the whole group will be rejected. Especially seeing a percentage have the potential to be the most lethal of all criminals. If you cannot deal with non terrorist crime how we will ever be able to deal with the tough stuff?

So whoever supported the rights of a minority of ciminals between 5 and 10 years ago have themselves to blame. If we had been able to deal with criminals as harshly as they deserved without all the loooney left support they received then it may well have always just been about the criminals.

You're right Verdant ,it is about crime.Crime has festered because of a weak Labor Party dominated human rights organisations have perverted both our Police Service and Judiciary.The police are too scared to catch them and the Judiciary won't gaol them.

If the Police suspect someone of carrying a knife or gun ,they have to ask the criminal to hand it to them.Recently they held stop work meetings to to counter this stupidity.I haven't heard the outcome.They cannot physically overpower them and take weapons from people they suspect harbouring them.Many Lebanese and other ethnic criminals when arrested simply appeal to the anti-discrimination board and press charges against the police.The crims simply say they will drop their charges if the Police drop theirs.Even if it does get to court we have Labor appointed left wing Judges who simply put them on good behaviour bonds.
So the police feel demoralised and just play the public service game of watching their own backs,while appearing to do something.Who can blame them.

The civil libertarians like Rainer have over the last 25yrs destroyed destroyed our social fabric which has resulted in the Ethnic gangs that rampage our city.They have fostered the very thing that they find most abhorent,racism.They have tried to cover up ethnic crime through PC and shouting down any detractors as racists.

The left have propergated more racism than any Nazi could ever achieved,since the lunatic right are now eminating from the woodwork due to the supression of free speach.

Arjay wrote:
"civil libertarians like Rainier"

thanks mate, that’s a wonderful compliment, I reckon me and my comrades would have rallied, protested, petitioned, lobbied, [and lost more than we won] for the rights and interests of people just like you, and importantly people not like you too. It’s what us so called elite, mostly working class, mortgage paying, mum and dads do cos we believe in trying to create a better tomorrow for our kids. We want our kids to understand hate and prejudices and transcend the ideas that incite them. We admire people like Martin Luther King, read a wide range of social theory (from both Left and Right perspectives). And lots of us enjoy music and poetry and other creative articulations. The Lefties are a broad church but we mostly agree on issues that require us to respect and protect the basic rights of our fellow human beings. But we also know when we are being challenged by one-eyed Right wing zealots. We don’t think we are ideologically perfect at all, but as the old saying goes, but we do know that if you don’t believe in something - you’ll fall for anything.

Keeping falling Arjay, you'll hit the bottom soon.

Cheers!

Dear JKENNO
I’d rather be working with you than against you, but ur not giving much room here.
You seem to think I’m “judging” you when all I did was point out a list of derogatory personal attacks you made against a) Most Australians (disgust) and b) Friedrich in particular. (Nazi)

I also take issue with some things Friedrich has said, and if you look back over his and my posts, you will see that its possible to resolve such differences without ‘playing the man’ as you have done here. That is not ‘judgement’ in the sense of opinion, its plain fact for all to see.

You made a couple of points in your last post which could do with some deeper scrutiny.

“I’m an immigrant, who cares where I came from I’m Australian” is one.
and
“I believe people should be judged on their merits not by their skin color or religion”

I have reservations on both of those positions as follows:

“Where I came from” in itself may not matter. But:

“the CULTURE” I bring may matter a lot! Depending on whether it is compatible with the prevailing culture. “British” culture certainly impacted on Aboriginal culture as you have repeatedly observed, and very negatively.

We now have a predominant English/Irish/Celtic/Scottish/Northern European culture. (in that order too) with around 25% of people from other cultural backgrounds. Some of those cultures are NOT compatible with ours. (female genital mutilation for one example)

“Skin color” agreed it does not bother me in the slightest.

“Religion” This is a different kettle of fish. (Politics is the same) if the religion has as a fundamental tenet to create a 'caliphate' for example, or intoduce the Dictatorship of the Proletariat, (neither of which accept a different system than theirs) Then, I have a problem with that culture.

A predominant culture will accept the newcomer, but not his culture in areas of serious conflict and/or competitive difference.

If you can show me errors of reasoning here, and/or if you have workable and constructive alternatives feel free to share them. (no cliche’s though)

Rainer

You seem to be a supremist of some sorts. You are not preaching tolerance on here so I doubt very much you are teaching it to your children. Your I am "working class" remark loses all credibility with your truck driver "down the nose" remarks.

Being left wing does not mean you are superiour, just different ideology yet you seem to think from your last post it makes you better. It doesn't. Like Hilter was so far left he ended up far right. The extremes have a way of merging into one.

As with our so called far left, loopy, loony or whatever they may be called. They do not stand for human rights, just the rights of those that will get them political credit.

For example I have just read from 1997 a left wing journal saying the high rate of crime within the Lebanese community was because the police were racist. Totally no concern for the victims of the crimes. Just out to support the criminals. So many years of denial and in the meantime so many victims.

So as a result we have had a steady increase of human rights violations against women. If it was a true left mentality as I grew up, with the female victim would have won support from the left, now they are the scarifical lamb for those who support extreme relgion ideology. Another extreme right trait? As usual when there is human conflict women find themselves at the bottom of the food chain.

So not you are not supporting human rights, you are supporting the denial of human rights. I read a great comment from a newspaper article, cannot credit the source sorry, Tolerance ends when liberty ends. Think about it. you and your ilk are inciting racism because human rights are important to everyone, not just criminals.