It is not about religion in itslef - it is about the clash of Islamic culture with Australian society.

A significant number of Pacific Islanders had come down to the beach at Cronulla to "support the Australian way of life"

that means there were white Anglo-Saxon Australians side by side with black Islanders UNITED against the constant thuggery and intimidation and hatred that young men of middle eastern heritage have for this country and its people. It is CLEAR that the colour of ones skin had nothing to do with it - IT IS ABOUT A CULTURE that comes down to the beach and threatens to rape white girls if they don't 'cover up', and swarms in with car loads of 'cousins' and other SCUM if their numbers are threatened. The lifeguards were set upon for no other reason than that they were 'F@#Ken Aussies'/

LET US NOT FORGET THE PICTURES OF THE CCTV out of Cronulla - TWO HUNDRED plus middle eastern men doing what they have been doing continuously in the Sutherland Shire and South Western Sydney for 10 -15 years - and THIS IS WHY THE PEOPLE OF AUSTRALIA HAVE RISEN UP - both BLACK AND WHITE AUSTRALIANS!!

The middle eastern thuggery has an underlying element of Islamic culture which teaches hatred for Australian Infidels.

I have been 'rolled' by a gang of vietnamese, and had a knife held toward me, for nothing other than money. (just common crime present in all cultures).

I have had a knife held to my throat by middle eastern thugs who didn't take my money, but just threatened to kill me because I was a "f@#Ken Aussie" - (not common crime for money, but an underlying hatred for Australians).

Everyone I know has had similar experience - crime by all colour and culture for nothing but money, but a 'SOCIAL terror' from middle easterns not for money but out of hatred for Australians -

CAN THE LEFTISTS AND LIBERALISTS SEE THE DIFERENCE??!!

All cultures have crime, but NO OTHER CULTURE directs its crime toward Australians because it hates Australians!! (who is the real racists, i suggest it is the SIalmic culture thugs!!)

FRIEDRICH

there u go again on the 'superiority' thing :) naughty... Please avoid such blatant racial/cultural superiority outbursts. Trust me, it does not help your cause.

Wagner is 'wonderful' to 'you' and to many others of us, but he probably totally sux to some people of different cultures. No offence.

We just have to accept that our culture is 'ours' and is 'different' from others, and as such we have every right to defend its position in Australian heritage. There is no need to go further than this to be honest.

It does not need to be "justified" by alluding to any inherrant superiority which is very much a relative concept anyway. Defending one's culture is a self evident right mate...

Personally, I prefer Handel to Wagner, the Messiah being one of the all time great examples of high musical praise seeming close to being 'inspired' by the Almighty.

Anyway.. cheers and have a nice weekend.

BOAZ-david,

As usual your post was excellent.

Have a great weekend also.

DEAR THOR
please refer to my post on the other thread about some self defense tips.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=4040#27839

Also.. your point about Islanders and black Aussies standing together with the white ones is most important.. I urge ALL Anglos especially to REACH OUT to Aboriginals and Islanders and Catholic Lebanese and strengthen the bonds of social friendship, and produce a strong sense of unity and brotherhood.

To be honest, my reaction to the repeated kicking and bashing of poor Steve B while he was down .. initially by the infamous Number 8 character.. made me want to come up to Sydney myself and 'meet' number 8 with his wild king hit (which missed by about 2 meters) and 'counsel' him about his 'bravery in numbers' and his outright cruelty to a fellow human being. I'd also love to have 'some words' with that moron who struggled so hard to get to the front so he could use his iron bar on Steve. Perhaps in an Auburn Gym... if they had the courage to identify themselves, and I'm a 57 yr old geiser.(from Vic)

At LEAST now we know the identity of one central figure in that group and from there, we can get the rest and hopefully put them all away for a long time on Attempted murder charges

THOR if u feel strongly about this, and clearly you do, WRITE to the police and the police association, urging them to take action on this
info.centre@pansw.org.au (police association)
http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/ see the 'Contact us' link.

I've written heaps of letters/mails myself.

Did everyone notice Keyser Trad (slippery Kaiser) the master of meaningless innuendo and public nothing speak... when asked about the identitys of the mob, hesitated to identify them as 'Middle Eastern'
he hummed and harred over each one.. finally conceding they 'did' seem of ME background.

Cheers

I do not agree with jailing the Lebanese law breakers. They will cost an enormous sum to be kept in prison and more when they come out because they will never be considered fit enough for employment or anything else. They are not worth it.
Citizenship should be stripped from them and they should be deported right back to their home country immediately.
Keyser Trad should also be sent back where people maybe impressed with his ramblings. Most of us are tired of the constant airing of his inane comments.