Hmmm... this was a very depressing set of comments to read read for a "non-white Australian"... which is less contradiction of terms than "white australian" to be honest.

CHAINSMOKER....
I appreciate your kind words.. let me fill you in a bit more on some aspects of my posting and re Ranier.

Firstly, I tend to post on 2 levels. The 'Citizen' level which is the expression of my viewpoint simply as a citizen in democracy, and those posts might include references to organized self defence, immigration issues, racial issues and Industrial relations type issues.

Secondly, I post as a Christian (conservative evangelical) on topics where that is appropriate.

Then, I sometimes mix both, because I can see in glaring obviousness where it fits. Example.. Andrew Bartlett came out with this beauty

[Personally, I'm not a big fan of any religion. Many of them have great ethical frameworks, but I don't see the value of the supernatural stuff]

I immediately broke into a smile bigger than that of a cheshire cat, when I recalled Andrews little tryst with Alchohol fueled anger and molestation in parliament :) Well... he might not be able to see the value of the supernatural, but I sure can ! "Dont be drunk with wine, but be filled with the Holy Spirit" "The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy peace patience kindness and self control" etc.....

RANIER and ME.. I think you are quite right.. we are probably skinning the same cat from different directions. But he is very hard to tie down, I've emailed with him a couple of times but its 'his' turn :) so.. The weird thing is... I totally support Indigneous rights and culture and am desperate to see more Stephen Hagans and Raniers get up and fulfill their potential. But Ranier seems to be stuck in this 'race' loop... and constantly falls back into this 'structural racism' cesspool. He thinks I want to attack him.. when I don't. He he does love 'big' words :)

I wrote an email to Stephen Hagan today, expressing my openness for him to have a meal with us anytime, and to ask about this 'nigger' sign he is trying to get removed in Towoomba.. all power to him.

Post one:

BD,
First, I think Stephen and I are fulfilling our potential. I’m puzzled (well not really) why you think we would we want your mentorship or blessing? We abandoned missionary counsel and sanctioning long ago.

Secondly, The ‘race loop’ you refer to is a result of my critique on those posts (including yours) which bastardised and trivialised any real cogent approach to intercultural critique. Perhaps the reason you think it’s a loop is that you haven’t resolved your own whiteness with your own non-white family? You certainly use them as evidence of your ‘cultural and anthropological credentials’ often enough.

But let’s get down to business. What I witness here is not cultural critique any real competence. What I do see are pithy epithets, random and stereotypical observances, lots of unfounded claims and heaps of blatantly racist claims about Muslim culture non white people - including my people.

Overall, while many (not all) attempt to deliberately avoid those old notions of bio-racial inferiority, the appropriation and use of the concept of 'culture and religious difference' is used to justify what I believe is of neoracism. Cultural differences are put up as unbridgable divides between white Australians and Muslim Australians. In my broad brush approach I call it racism and often because of the brevity one must use here.

i.e., I'm not racist but blah blah.

The outcome of this approach is no different to the classical racist theories that divided humanity into different and hierarchical 'breeds' of humans. While this has been scientifically disproved, it still is a strong informer of the ways in which people here have written and attacked who they know as non-white people.

Pastor Boaz, how could you possibly support Indigenous rights but question the existence of the institutional racism that informed and justified the removal of children and State sanctioned appropriation (theft) of Aboriginal wages, land and self determination? But to you this wasn’t structural or institutional was it. These were simply cross cultural difference or the work of the devil or both. Yeah sure.

* Post number 2 tomorrow. ><((((º>`

"The eradication of the white race is not going to happen".

I hope not. You havn't paid the rent yet.

Dear Ranier
sorry it took this long to respond.. specially as you have finally made an attempt to articulate the actual issues which are at the heart of your on-going gripe about ‘white (racist) power structures’. Truth is, I became swamped in all the other issues, not realizing u had responded to me.

Ok.. thanx.

On aboriginal wages withheld. I have advocated that this ‘sin’ be repented of with the utmost urgency in other posts, and I totally agree with you that such an act WAS/IS institutional racism and is evil !.

Taking children.

I would guess (correct me if I’m wrong) that you yourself might be one of them?

That issue is more difficult for me to wade through. My position is as follows:
a) If it was a policy of ‘forced assimilation of full blood Aborigines. I believe it was WRONG.
b) If it was aimed at protecting mixed children from being ostracized by the indigenous community, it was ‘RIGHT’.
c) If it was simply to ‘save/protect’ the ‘white’ part of the mixed child, it was WRONG.

Such a policy does not exist today to my knowledge.

Expropriation of Land.
Guess what.. we ALSO experience that, as do people in just about every country. Its called ‘might is right’ even though its blatantly wrong to you and me. i.e. when a government has determined that such land is needed for ‘public good’ they take it.
In the case of Aboriginal land, we have to face up to history here, and recognize that the settling of Australia by whites/Brits was without question an invasion. It was ‘theft’ in the moral sense. Why do you think I’ going to argue with you about that ?
Bear in mind, those ‘Brits’ who came here were ‘Anglo/Saxon/Celt/Danish/Norwegian/French in genetic makup, and each one eflecting an INVASION of England. Today you would not know it. Perhaps the policy of assimilation was based on the idea that racial conflict can result in ‘new’ people living in harmony ?
What solution (realistically) do you see for the ‘land’ issue today ? (define it also pls)