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The Forum > General Discussion > What's the difference between beating your Islamic wife and boxing, or BDSM, for that matter?

What's the difference between beating your Islamic wife and boxing, or BDSM, for that matter?

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cont'd ...

Here is a link that I gave earlier. It deals with a
3 month program for Muslim women on family violence,
family law, the courts, dealing with police, by the
Women's Legal Service Victoria. It identifies legal
issues and accessing services for help.

I disagree with you that education cannot help with
fear. Ask any woman regarding child-birth. The more
you learn and know about the process involved the
less you fear it. Education does help in most cases
regarding many issues in our lives.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 5:58:15 PM
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cont'd ...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-16/women-muslim-leaders-give-crash-course-in-legal-studies/8030398
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 5:59:51 PM
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Thank you TTBN...

I realized my unintentional foolishness soon after I pressed the submit button? Would it be too late for me to say 'upset' rather than hysterical? I acknowledge the political correct brigade wield enormous power and influence, so best I exercise caution hereinafter me thinks?

That said, I can hardly think why any man would need to strike a woman except in self-defence and on the rare occasion they might become 'upset'. Of course it's a two way street, no woman can lawfully strike a man for the same reasons.

Early one morning c.0445hrs we attended a job in one of Sydney's far western suburbs, on a rowdy domestic call. It appeared this Turkish fellow in company with his 'girlfriend' (also Turkish) gave his wife a decent hammering, in fact the matter turned into a AGBH ,and he and the girlfriend were both duly pinched. After he was processed, I asked why did he bother to hit his wife so hard, causing her significant facial abrasions? To which he replied quite casually, it's our duty to discipline our women in a kindly but an effective way, so they may remember where their duty lies in always obeying their husbands wishes?

There wasn't a shred of remorse in sending his wife to Penrith Hospital A & E. The wife declined to drag her husband's girlfriend into the legal melee in the Magistrate's Court, there we had to 'NETO' her, and she merely shuffled out of the Court head down, looking all forlorn and crestfallen? And boyfriend spent a leisurely 2 from a 6 months, as an honoured guest of the NSW Government, at the 5 star Parramatta Gaol. Go figure?
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 6:06:16 PM
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Foxy:

"What do you then suggest?"

I would suggest that they seek psychological help to deal with their dependence on religion. I would also suggest that women in western societies stop glamourising domestic relationships and present the reality of them so that Muslim women can see that they do not have to be involved in them.

Education does not solve all emotional problems. It won't solve these ones.
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 6:11:46 PM
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Dear phanto,

Education can certainly help, especially if women
are made aware of the legal issues involved, their
rights, and how to access services for help.

The sociological research over the past
two decades has revealed an astonishing amount of
family violence - between spouses, between parents and
offspring, and among the offspring themselves.

The police detest "disturbance calls" usually family
fights because of the vicious and dangerous nature of so
many of these conflicts. Surveys suggest that each year
many couples go through a violent episode in which one spouse
tries to cause the other serious pain or injury.

Be that as it may there are few of us who would deny that
domestic violence is a widespread and very serious
problem in this country. Each year, too, child abuse -
involving such acts as
burning children with cigarettes, locking them up in closets, tying
them up for hours or days, breaking their bones - is alarmingly
common, and probably causes many of the runaways that
happen each year.

And of course we also have the sexual abuse of children, now
recognised as a national epidemic.

Sources of this violence may lie in the dynamics of the family as
an intimate environment: close relationships are likely to
involve more conflict than less intimate ones, since there are
more occasions for tensions to arise and more likelihood
that deep emotions will be provoked. Another source may lie
outside the family, for violence is frequently a response to
frustration. If the person affected cannot strike back at the
source of the problem (an employer, or lack of a job) the
aggression may be readily redirected at family members.

In the case of religious traditional beliefs violence between
husband and wife takes place in a general social context that
has for some traditionally emphasized male dominance and female
subservience.

In any event, the extent of violence in any group whose
members are supposed to love and care for one another is not
easily explained and suggests the modern family may
sometimes be under greater pressure than it can easily bear.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 6:48:06 PM
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Muslim women understand their rights very well, they are all laid out for them in the Koran.

When their husband lays them out they accept that he is only doing what the Koran tells him to do, and it's their fault anyhow.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 7:40:02 PM
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