Foxy: Actually, it's not strange at all. I leave the readings of the holy books to the scholars and theologians.

I'm sorry Foxy, but that's a cop out. What the eye doesn't see the heart doesn't grieve over.

There are a lot of us on here that have read the koran & Hadiths & have taken their interpretations directly from the teachings of the many learned Scholars & Theologians. These Imams have posted their interpretations online for the followers of Islam to read & act upon, They have explained in perfect detail exactly what is required by all moslim. We have shown you these interpretations many times. Yet you choose not to see them because you may have to change your thinking & you are afraid to do that.

Dear Banjo Paterson,

Thank You for adding more to my ongoing learning
process. I look forward to the future with
optimism.

Dear Jayb,

I shall repeat what I've said previously:

My concern is that mainstream Australian culture can
sometimes impose labels on certain communities.
This can encourage people into identifying themselves
other than Australian and take on past ethnic conflicts.
What we want is the creation of an Australia that's
inclusive enough so that people do not feel they have
to hold on to those enmities from the past, because they feel
there is a different way here. The more we tag people to
being specific to an ethnic group, the more we force them
almost to galvanise that as an ethnicity.

See you on another discussion.

Foxy: The more we tag people to being specific to an ethnic group, the more we force them almost to galvanise that as an ethnicity.

You are wrong again. These people would be accepted if they didn't want to force Australians to change their ethnicity. Which they do, & voice that opinion increasingly more & more forcefully. We have not reached the same state as the UK & Europe is in, yet, but it's coming closer every day. You claim that, "They are just like us."

These people are the ones who are rejecting Australian values & culture as being Haram. They want to turn Australia into the same horror state as they supposedly fled. Do you want Australia to end up the same as the Middle East? It appears so. Their aim is to Convert the entire World to Islam, covertly at first, then by the Sword.

Something tells me that this is all contrived naivety.

Dear Jayb,

I find the key feature of your arguments to be
rooted in generalisations. You ignore the
differences among individuals. Your belief that
all Muslims share the same supposed traits is
flawed. I get the impression that you are not
really concerned about genuine group characteristics.
you will simply accept any negative statement that
feeds your existing hostility. I am not interested
in providing you with that sort of a platform.
I'm sure that you will find others on this forum
who are. I shall leave it there.

Cheers.

Foxy: You ignore the differences among individuals.

All individuals can or may be nice.

Foxy: I get the impression that you are not really concerned about genuine group characteristics.

It is this very "genuine group characteristics" that does concerns me. Their group characteristic says that it's, for us, Islam or death. You are ignoring that in favour of the "nice individual." Even the Lone Wolves are "nice individuals." Just take the latest one in Britain. Several of his friends have said that he was a "nice individual."

Foxy,

"Your belief that all Muslims share the same supposed traits is
flawed."

All Muslims share at least one trait, they believe in the Koran.

That is the problem.