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The Forum > General Discussion > What's the difference between beating your Islamic wife and boxing, or BDSM, for that matter?

What's the difference between beating your Islamic wife and boxing, or BDSM, for that matter?

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Dear Foxy,

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The Christian Reformation took about 150 years to complete. Though most historians date its beginning from 1517, the year Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses on the door of the All Saints' Catholic Church in Wittenberg (the castle church, not the town church), it actually began about 25 years earlier when loyal adherents of the traditional faith were working to reform the Church from within.

It ended with the signing of the Peace Treaties of Westphalia in 1648 that ended the thirty years war in the Holy Roman Empire, one of the longest and most destructive conflicts in European history, as well as the deadliest European religious war, resulting in eight million casualties.

Mankind has a long history of religious conflict, especially among the monotheists who, theoretically, all believe in the same God. The lifetime of their mythical patriarch, Abraham, has proven impossible to date historically, but supposedly occurred several thousand years ago. Religious conflict has practically never ceased ever since.

The modern jihadist movement emerged in the late 1970s, when several groups began campaigns to overthrow the Arab World's regimes and establish Islamic states.

A booklet entitled Al-Farida Al-Ghaiba (The Neglected Duty) served as an important guide for them. The Egyptian author, Mohammed Abdul Salam Faraj, argued that Muslims had neglected jihad in the sense of violent struggle, focusing instead on the inner struggle against their baser instincts.

Faraj also argued that the fight against the "near enemy" - local, Muslim regimes - was more important than the fight against the "far enemy" - external, non-Muslim threats.

His group, al-Jihad, assassinated Egypt's President Anwar Sadat in 1981.

Since then, we have witnessed an escalation of horror perpetrated by al-Qaeda, ISIS and various other groups of so-called Jihadists claiming to act in the name of Allah as revealed by Mohammad, the prophet of Islam.

These fanatics have plunged humanity into global warfare at home and abroad by indoctrinating our children with their deviant religious dogma and turning them against us.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 1 May 2017 8:10:40 AM
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We have no alternative but to take up arms against them. We must stop them from colonising the minds of our children and using them as human bombs and weapons of destruction.

We must also do everything in our power to encourage, promote and facilitate the peaceful reformation of Islam as a religion of tolerance and compassion, respectful of Human Rights, rejecting Jihad and all forms of violence and injustice, and abstaining from political activity and influence in the governance of society at all levels.

But in so doing, we must learn from history or we are doomed to repeat it. Whatever we do we must avoid, at all costs, triggering a terrible human tragedy like the one that accompanied the Reformation of Christianity in the 16th and 17th centuries.

Prudence commands that we adopt a professional, diplomatic approach to this highly sensitive, but key aspect of the problem.

If it takes the same time – or even longer - to achieve as the Christian Reformation, which took 150 years to achieve, then so be it.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 1 May 2017 8:18:50 AM
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So it is all softly, softly, don't upset them and any fault for bad behaviour is down to the welcoming, freedom-loving French, or Brits or Swedes or..etc.

As well, make absolutely sure you ignore any comparisons and criticisms of the imported toxic socio-political system and obnoxious cultural traditions that come as an inseparable package with so many of those young men who left their own women and families to struggle back home and are molesting European women instead.

Divert every discussion onto Christianity, that is the tactic.

'Whatever you do, don't mention that treatment of women and Sharia law'. -With sad acknowledgement to Dads Army, a product of the democratic traditions and inheritances that the Islamists find so 'dismaying'. Got to ask why you and another here are so dismissive as to continually refuse to even mention any priority for equality between men and women and promote the separation of religion from politics. The fundamentalism of Islam is also modelled and taught in the home and by such nasty practices as telling girls they must cover themselves up lest they 'inflame' men.

Got to give that 'most feminist religion' a chance to become established, huh? The attention-seeking 'Progressive' feminists can play dress up and lets pretend.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-12075931

The virtue-signalling leftists, the self-styled 'do gooders' are in fact doing fundamentalist Islamists' work for them by advocating silence, turning a blind eye and by turning the blame on host countries such as Australia, the UK.

Of course the 'virtuous do-gooders' are actively removing the sand from under the feet of womens rights campaigners like Aayaan Hirsi Ali. Hirsi Ali is making pleas for support for any “modifying Muslims” (Muslim reformers), who generally favour equality between men and women and promote the separation of religion from politics.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446863/ayaan-hirsi-ali-islam-treatment-women-predicting-evolution
Posted by leoj, Monday, 1 May 2017 9:41:41 AM
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Dear Banjo Paterson,

Thank You for your analysis.

It is spot on.

If you wish to pursue the matter in a concise (absolutely
brilliant) book there is Sam Harris' (2006) "Letter to a
Christian Nation" a letter to believers in the US. It's
worth a read.

For me this discussion has now run it's course.
I look forward to seeing you on another discussion.
Take care.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 1 May 2017 10:57:24 AM
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Banjo: The Christian Reformation took about 150 years to complete.

I did this some time ago. Let's see;

It may have tamed the Vatican but it took 200 years to do it. In the meantime there was 200 years of vicious, bloody, Warfare.

Starting with Lutheranism, Unitarianism, Socinianism, Monetarism, ultramontanism, Gallicanism, Concilliarism, Baptists, Anabaptists, Waldensians, Hussite's, Lollards, Huguenot's, Wycliffe's, Calvinism, Mennonites, Amish, Episcopalians, Armenianism, Presbyterianism, Wesleyans, Millerism, Quakers, Shakers & many more, up to the 18th Century.

These Protestant Sects fought with one another as well as the Vatican for 200 years on top of the normal wars that were wages seeking Territory.

The main reason for the number of Sects was money. The Kings & Princes of the lands were living in poverty along with their Citizenry. They thought that breaking away from the Vatican would be a good way of stopping the Wealth of their lands flowing to Rome. Hence the breakup of Europe into Principalities.

To which Foxy quickly changed the subject.

leoJ: Of course the 'virtuous do-gooders' are actively removing the sand from under the feet of womens rights campaigners.

Yes, I just don't understand that aspect of the Do-Gooders. They are extremely quick to condemn any Anglo Saxon white Male yet they support that very thing by moslims. Go figure, I can't. Ay Foxy?
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 1 May 2017 12:46:02 PM
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Dear Jayb.,

And a big hug to you too.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 1 May 2017 1:05:52 PM
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