Wendy dear, your contribution to Middle East animal welfare through
your taxes, would be about 3c or something. Did you want a refund? :)

Fact is that any farmer who pays levies, usually in the 100s and
thousands of $, can go to the AGM and vote how that money is
spent. All very democratic. A large whack of that money is spent
on r&d, funding various scientific research. Advertising is about
promoting the generic product, not its method of production.

Of course farmers should be involved in the marketing of their
product! They are free to form their own supply chains, as
Mt Barker Chicken did. Even pigfarmer can form one with her
own pigs.

Yup, few farmers want to run freerange pigs, the shelter/straw
method is taking over slowly, where pigs are far happier and
healthier then the bunkers. Pigs loose in the environment cause
all sorts of environmental problems, as we see in wild pigs,
which are bloodthirsty little critters.

Scout is correct, consumer demand drives lots of things. If consumers
are prepared to pay enough for free range pork, then I am sure that
there will be an incentive for somebody to farm them that way.
Most consumers however, as we see in the chicken industry, still
vote with their hip pocket.

Pigfarmer, most Aussie sheep are still footloose for about 364
days of the year, very few shed sheep in Australia, which I disagree
with btw. Perhaps you should write to your shearers union, to instruct
their members on correct handling. Farmers are pretty
well at their mercy.

Mind you I can think of far worse things to get upset about when
it comes to animial welfare, bear bile production in China for
instance

The Alchemist,

You haven't posted for a while. Here is something off topic to ensure you don't get bored. : )

http://web.archive.org/web/19981205131836/http://www.fcs.uga.edu/~mhulsey/PS_12.html

Yabby Darling!

Fact IS the funds are made up of 50 50 industry and public funds
End Of Story.
Fact is if the Australian people dont want to send their hard earned 50 percent of it to the middle east when it SHOULD not be going.

Fact is its nearly all! over dear! for you lot. Fact is the only reason its gone on this long is the public dont know about it. The little [pay off] to the middle eastusing THEIR tax public funds

Fact is the appointed people such as the Pork board or the Dam MLA and others not to mention lIVECORP are given 50 percent of public! money.
Well Well Well. Even the city slicker knows about Livecourpe now ha ha
Wont be long now yappy until we can get out TV ads out there. Wait until it hits the Christians putting THEIR money in the plate!

Ummm For the first time we might even get some help from them.

As they say pigs might fly [Sorry Pig farmer].

Oh everbodys seen the new pork adds on Teli Supporting Amandas cruel piggeries.

Well YOUR PAYING FOR IT. You The Tax Payer. The adds are out of half public money. Yeh and We HATE the cruel places. We the public dEMAND their Immediate closure. SO WHY ARE YOU USING OUR MONEY TO PROMOTE It?

Oh and Yabby was just talking to Kevin. Not putting up with boards set up between extreme groups and pro live and intensive farming anymore. We need mainstream as well.

We need boards that speak on behalf of the 96 percent of peple who do eat meat but want to know its been treated humanely from padock note! I said padock[not cage] to plate.

Thanks Scout Ozgirl hurry up back Scout because if I have to baby sit Yappy for two weeks I will go down there and put him on a ship to the Middle East personally][smile
We are experiencing technical difficulties with our computers so patience please.

Check out this 'generic' brochure put out by Australian Pork Limited

http://www.apl.au.com/media/B%20-%20Free%20Range%20Pigs%20and%20Sustainability%20of%20Outdoor%20Pig%20Prod%E2%80%A6.pdf#search=%22outdoor%20sustainability%20australian%20pork%22

I agree, they do make some valid points that, in the hands of incompetant operators, would become an issue. There are far more issues with intensive farming and plenty of unskilled labour in those places. (worse than shearers and shed hands) It would be nice if they played fair and did a brochure like this on intensive piggeries. Pigs might fly did I hear you say?

Yes Yabby, deep litter eco shelters are a great alternative. If they would also stop pouring all that crap down the pigs throats that would be wonderful. The drugs and chemcials used in intensive farming should scare the hell out of people. (nearly as bad as sheep - but I wont go there)

Wendy...ship Yabby off to middle east..funny as..hope hes packed his lil backpack and his hanky..L O L.

"Wendy...ship Yabby off to middle east..funny as..hope hes packed his lil backpack and his hanky..L O L."

ROFL