Thank you, everyone, for taking the discussion to this general thread ;)

I have been looking at people buying eggs off the supermarket shelves and to my disappointment it is true that many people go for the cheapest eggs.

Perhaps this doesn't mean that they don't care for the hens, but they might not be fully aware of the severe suffering of these hens.

The same might be the case about people not desexing their pets. Both cats and dogs are a problem when they become feral.

Making people more aware is crucial for improving conditions for animals.
For example, I kind of 'knew' that battery pigs were raised in spaces that were too small, but until I saw Amanda Vanstone's piggery on TV I did not realise that they were THAT small!

Drumming into people's heads that there are big problems with the way we treat animals will, in my opinion, make a difference.
The more people complain to the Govt, the better.

Yabby, I will have a look at your thread. Not promising a comment ;)

Cilivia

Well put

Yabby The answer to your question is yup

Grew up on a farm. Love the farm life. Our cows were Free Range well cared for. Love milk. Steak. Yup
Main stream people just want to know its been treated with respect from paddock to plate.

Cilivia
I must say you can certainly put things very well so people can follow.

Yes we need to get the Churches involved in teaching the children the difference between battery eggs and Free Range.

What a wonderful Idea Cilivia.

Lets all write to the churches and ask them to include that in bibles classes.

The Government as well!

Gee I will write to them all and the RSPCA head office with this idea.

I think I am getting the hang of this.

http://www.rspca.org.au/campaign/fairgo.asp

Private and independent post from Antje Struthmann

Hello pigfarmer and Yabby.
Madam, and Sir, its certainly not lady or gentleman like to rofl those mentioned words about someone on another forum.

Its inappropriate, disgusting and disrespectful and shows that you have no consideration towards others and towards yourself.

Madam, surely your posts to the forums cant be of benefit to your business either..
Just do a Google search and see what comes up

Instead of vilifying and attacking each other for whatever reason we should all be working towards a solution to improve animal welfare.
Maybe its not really on your agenda as your first priority seems to be offending certain people.

I am not a libber; but I will never be a 100% Vegan either.
Yes, I substitute my milk for soymilk and meat for other alternative products when I can;
Seeing calves starve to death because of human greed turned me off milk some time ago.
Its a disgrace how far people go to make money. The mother produces for the first 7 days colostrum. This are 7 days where the milk is useless to the farmer anyway, they may as well let the calf have the milk, but no;

People in general need to be educated about how much cruelty is involved in the product they buy.

All animals are unpredictable and for certain actions are a trigger that results in certain behaviour and outcome.
Animals do not react differently to humans. Eg human stampede;

Some farmers do not care about their livestock.
Although some of the farmers know that their animal is sick and still sell it to the butcher before its too late for the beast...
Thats how BSE started.
They dont get a Vet, unless its a stud animal, but when it is too late they cry ..

On the other hand WA is exporting more live animals than it can produce and is buying from interstate to fulfil their over sea quotas.
Apparently the figures will raise in 2007.

I believe that if there is to be success in relation to changing the culture of cruelty to animals the public need to understand how this cruelty could affect them.

In that regard I believe that people should be made more aware of the highly contagious diseases that are triggered by stressing and abusing animals, like Mycoplasma.

When human beings start to believe that they might get sick if a stressed animal becomes sick and they eat it, then they might be more concerned about the way that these animals are being treated.

Problem with the human race is that if it doesn't affect them, they dont care.

There has been a significant win in the US where the Humane Society has targetted America's largest ice cream maker, Ben and Jerrys. The company has been using cage eggs in its products despite banning them from its European operations.
Now the company has decided to phase in use of cage free eggs over a four year period. A small victory but a victory none the less.

Jolanda
Welcome to the forum.
Free Ranger
That is wonderful new. Thanks So much for informing us. A good example of what can be acheived if every body works together rather than just their own interest,
What goes round comes round.
Support for all Animal Welfare people is important. Dont you think?
All animal need to be Free Range.