Pigfarmer, sounds to me like you have an understanding marketing
problem.

Here is an example of a company doing it really successfully in
the chicken world, its a win-win situation. Go into any supermarket
in WA and you can buy Mt Barker free range chicken.

http://www.mtbarkerchicken.com.au/mtbarker.php?page=Aboutus

"To join into your discussion group it is necessary to join Yahoo - which I'm in the process of doing now!"

Scout you are taking your damn sweet time! ( :

Someone else from here has already signed up in there ahead of you.

Regards

Oh forgot to add to my last post:

Yabby need not reply

Yabby - I don't believe it you have finally provided something useful, so useful in fact it bears repeating:

"Go into any supermarket
in WA and you can buy Mt Barker free range chicken."

And you even provided a link. Well done. What a good boy you are. How many posts did it take before you provided something positive? Oh, never mind, it was worth the wait - congratulations.

Pigfarmer & Wendy - will you be adding Yabby's contribution to your websites?

Cheers m'dears.

PS

mjpb - sorry but I have limited internet time, was in the middle of registering and you can guess the rest. As you know registering on yahoo takes more than just an email address and password.

Sure scout. Now Yabby go back to the supermarket and find me some free range PORK - thats what I was talking about not chooks. Do you even read the emails thru before you jump in? Nevermind, I think I could write your response for you - you are so predictable.

Sorry if I take the focus off the farm animal discussion going on, but I'd like to give you a different link before I forget because I find this extremely important as well.

I was looking at a brochure from Avon (they sell cosmetics, beauty care products, hair care etc) and checked out on google whether they were cruelty free.

I found this cool site where you can check any brand of cosmetics/beauty care to find out if the belong to the cruelty free, not tested on animals list.

There's a link to Australian or US companies.

http://www.allforanimals.com/cruelfree1.htm

Pigfarmer I would absolutely LOVE to find your products in supermarkets in NSW.

If anyone has, easily on hand, links to some pictures of animal cruelty- mainly live export and intensive farming, could yu gieve them as I am collecting information and pictures to give a talk in my local area to make people aware.

I know Wendy has provided some but I am disorganised with filing and didn't file the links and the posts are getting sooooo long that it's time consuming to find back the links I'm after. It would be of great help!

About sticking pictures of cruelty on meat packages- would be good if it was only teenagers and adults who saw them but lots of 2 and 3 year olds go shopping with parents too and I wouldn't want my own kids exposed to those pictures if they were bad.

Some warning words would be good: "this pig has spent all its life in a cage that was too small for it to walk one step" or something in that light.