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Posted by BennySampson, Wednesday, 13 September 2006 9:49:10 PM
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Pigfarmer, do you have the foggiest business skills or knowledge
about marketing at all? You are not in a shearing shed now :) So what if its chicken? Its a huge success story or taking free range products right through to the consumer, to the point where consumers demand it, so even Coles HAVE to stock it. If you are going to make a go of this thing, learn what all those people in similar industries around you did, to make it work. If they had a huge success, clearly you can learn something! You can start small and unreliable supplies, by selling at farmers markets. Forget showing evil pictures, the mind works by assosiation. Shopping is an emotional experience. Packaging matters! Colour matters! Your packaging should reflect a clean and green image and happy pigs! Scout I could make all sorts of contributions, but I tend to focus on one thing at a time. Up to now its been Wendy's obsession with the live trade, using historic data. Wendy is wrong, but you'll all learn that the hard way, given time. Australia could actually work wonders in the Middle East, if our budget there was tripled or quadrupled. If they havent learnt yet over there, after so many thousand years, its well overdue that somebody showed them and we are in a prime position to do that, without being George Bush like in our arrogant attitudes. See that over 5-10 years and the result could be amazing, but of course all you guys don't think of animals outside our borders. Just remember that 100'000 sheep a week die in Australian paddocks. We have plenty to get on with right here, when it comes to animal welfare, without being so very arrogant to claim that we know it all and are so perfect. Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 13 September 2006 9:50:49 PM
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Ciliva
Wendy asked me to forward you some links. However I wiped some by error. I wont be able to get it back. However I remember reading her saying in her email if you gop onto the pale web site to links there are lots there. She said also on HKM web site. Its probably the best I can do until She is back on air. Hope that helps. I am busy but i will be back also. Posted by BennySampson, Wednesday, 13 September 2006 9:53:38 PM
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Yabby, did I miss a link of an article that shows that so many sheep die in paddocks? Do you have the link? I didn't know this.
Thank you, Benny- much appreciated. Hope your computers will be fixed soon. Otherwise there is always the..... sledgehammer. Seriously, so frustrating if pc don't work. "Stuck in the middle with you" People, even if the petition is a Dutch one, the song is in English and some text. But this is such a great petiton and little very very cute and sad animaltion, you MUST see it! Perhaps there's an English version somewhere but haven't found it. It's a petition for caged chickens from the European Union. http://www.ciwf.nl/inactie/legkippen/doemee/index.htm Posted by Celivia, Wednesday, 13 September 2006 10:22:43 PM
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Celivia, I am sure you did not know this. Lots of stuff that you
don't know, that happens right here in our country. Perhaps you could ask the resident woolclasser, about shearers popping sheep into the boot of their cars, to take home for meat supplies. No stun guns used either lol. That figure is not advertised on websites for all to see, but its easily verifiable. Australia has 100 million sheep, every Ag Dept will tell you that about 5% will die a year on farm. Thats 5 million sheep a year or roughly 100'000 a week. Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 13 September 2006 10:34:04 PM
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Sorry people, link didn't seem to work- try this one.
http://www.ciwf.nl/inactie/legkippen/doemee/index.html Posted by Celivia, Wednesday, 13 September 2006 10:35:15 PM
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http://www.halakindmeats.com/elders.html
http://www.livexports.com/links.html
here are some links. You will find plenty on our web pages by typing in either PALE on a googles or
Halal Kind Meats. We are expereincing some technical problems toningt so we will catch up with everybody later. Mike I send you two emails. Yopu masy have replied. Sorry if you have however we are not receiving much mail