AntjeStruthmann

Thank you but this thread is really long and padded with some personal nonsense and it takes a long time to get through it. Have you considered bringing it somewhere like:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/animal_equal_consideration/

to keep it a serious discussion.

Wendy thank you also.

I have taken the liberty of pasting the bulk of your post and the links from Scouts at the above URL in the hope that the fat can be trimmed from the discussion so to speak.

Cheers

Michael.

Thanks mjpb (Michael)

This discussion is typical of OLO - lots of personal rubbish. But I do believe I have unearthed a few gems here and there - your post being the most recent one.

To join into your discussion group it is necessary to join Yahoo - which I'm in the process of doing now!

Cheers

mjpb Easy to see you haven't read much on this thread, Scout started this no one else. You don't disguise your religious and meat industry interests very well. You must be very scared of vegetarians to have to ban any from your discussion, is that because you can't come up with anything logical for a defence of your life of continuing barbarity.

Scout your first post started with this, “As a culture we are gradually increasing our responsibility towards the environment.”

How does that equate to the growing destruction your advocating with your approach, rather bizarre logic isn't it, or has the blindness reached and covered the mind

I understand how unevolved humans are. Just wondered if there was any form of conscience in anyone, sadly there's not. Just more barbaric preparations for destruction, without thought for the inevitable outcome and consequences for our planet and all that live on it. Don't forget the many species becoming extinct, as more and more land is gobbled up and destroyed to house more monotheists and condemned animals.

But your animal welfare, only relates to feeding your faces and the amount of money, expansion and control you can get, doesn't it.

Its a pity you all believe humane killing is something good, when the reality is the total opposite. It just proves there's no hope for change, just more radicalism by gods followers to ensure they are in control of all slaughter on the planet. No matter what the cost to anyone or anything else. In the end, your all just contributing to the collapse of our biological planet as fast as you can, in an effort to rapidly increase gods destructive works.

So I'll leave you now and go back to my animals and wildlife, at least they understand and display caring kindness, unlike the humane of the world.

Alchemist.
Goodbye.
I toally understand how you feel.But Gods not going to change it for the animals. That much is clear. We will try to stop live exports and increase the use of vegeatbles in peoples diets.
You are not alone in your thoughts but I cant just spend all my time with my animals. I must try at least to ease what suffering We can for the others. I dont know how you became a priest because there is not much in the church for animals. Most couldnt care less as you know.

The Alchemist

You are a vegetarian! We have something else not in common. My only interest in the meat industry is nutrition and humane treatment of animals.

No and I'm trying to cut down on barbarity. I'm concerned that the presence of vegetarians in here however might make my above comment a little too candid for your feelings. Obviously it expressed my opinion but I would have been less vivid if I knew the full extent of the audience.

"unlike the humane of the world" Freudian slip of the finger?

2006-09-10 Kate Porter Australia

2006-09-06 Rebecca Bergamin Australia I will not wear wool or support the Australian factory farming & live export industries in ANY way. It is barbaric.

2006-09-04 Mary P Brighton Australia We seem to forget animals have emotions and feelings similar to humans. The unspeakable cruelty suffered by these unfortunate animals that have nobody to look out for their rights is just not acceptable.

2006-09-04 Sarah Watson Australia STOP the export of live animals

2006-09-02 Helen McMullan Australia Australia has enough multi-cutural people who can treat the animals in a humane way and fulfil religious requirements/customs without sending live animals overseas. Please stop the crule live export of Australian livestock.

2006-09-01 Dianne Arton Australia There is no moral basis for live export. We can humanely slaughter animals on our own shore in line with other countries expectations eg. halal. So why do we continue to claim to care more about foeta humans than all living beings

2006-09-01 DR Nik Taylor Australia All animals have an intrinsic right to be treated with respect. The barbarism of live exports contravenes this right and many others and must be stopped.

Furthermore state sanctioned acts of violence against animals may well encourage human acts of aggression and violence and thus need to be stopped on BOTH human and animal welfare levels.

2006-08-31 Rex Gate Australia (enter comments here)

2006-08-29 callum sloan australia i absolutely hate it

2006-08-29 Frank L Hoffman USA All animals deserve the legal rights not to be used, abused, and exploited by humans. They have feelings and suffer pain just as we do. See: www.all-creatures.org

2006-08-27 Cilia van Zal Australia This torture of animals has to stop asap. There is no excuse for the cruelty during transports and slaughter. No excuse at all because there are alternatives.

2006-08-25 Luke Rowland Australia

2006-08-22 Sally Australia Put your self in that situation. Animals have feelings too

2006-08-20 Glen Dfens Orstralia How can our highly evolved species accept this ignorant unneccesary torture Its the 21st century boys and girls No bottom line can justify such large scale animal mistreatment