Am time poor today, but have just been on the "abuse of animals" thread and 'pigfarmer' has left this valuable link:

http://www.freerangepork.com.au/

Everyone who is genuinely concerned about animal welfare will no doubt check it out.

Regards

Thanks for that Scout. We started the new site to help support all free range farmers. Please suggest any farmers you know or retailers that support free range farming.

Pigfarmer

I will notify you of my local butcher on your website - for all I know he may already subscribe. But that doesn't matter, we are creating something much bigger than we are as individuals and it won't be long before the pollies have no choice but to take notice - they want to keep their jobs, they will create policies with animal welfare in mind.

The websites you and Freeranger have provided are among my goals when I started this discussion. Like most people I am time poor, but want to make a difference. And now I know I can - the internet can be fraught with lies and misinformation - but anyone who is discerning can cut through and find the gems like your websites.

Thank you.

Hello Yabby
Thanks for your reply.
Yes Live Exports are an industry but have the jobs it created outweighed the jobs lost?
Tax payers subsidize from A-Z ->farmer to Live Exports everything.
E.g. the Gov sells 1 Doz. eggs to Asia for a few cents. We have to make up for the subsidies and pay top dollars.
The reality is the Gov gives a monkey about their Citizens and nor do the Churches.
Farmers endure hard times especially now and try to be economical viable with the ongoing draught, but ….

Let’s get to the real reason for Live Exports shall we.
Some time ago a/farmers mixed other meat into the order of meat which was destined for oversea markets.
Naturally these countries in question did tests and the meat was returned to Australia and sold as Export quality.

Australian farmers lost the credibility of being honest and naturally overseas buyers insist now on seeing the product live.
Re cruelty to live exports.
Well if you want to acknowledge it or not. It is cruel. Animals suffer from travel sickness, stress, which in return affects their immune system and ultimately their over all well being.
The animal looses weight and suffers from diarrhoea and other sicknesses and diseases associated with the trauma being transported.
I know that as a fact having worked with animals most of my life.
The footage you complain about is not old, unless you want to discredit the late Richard Carlton’s last doc about Live Exports? There has been others since.
The pictures are as up to date as they were last year, because the cruel treatment of these animals is happening this very minute.
All that changes in all the docs on a daily basis are the figures for Live Exports that naturally go up and the lost of Australian jobs that go with it.
You work it out.
And yes it’s the women who have the power to make a difference where the next meat on their table comes from ->free range source or if it’s a cruel product of intensive farming.

AntjeStruthmann

Thank you

We have been pointing out the same facts all along to Yabby, but its become like hitting a brick wall.

I can only conclude that Yabby has a vested interest in live export and needs to justify it.

People will say anything to justify a less than ethical position, forcing others to run around in circles just to prove a truism, which is:

Live Export is harmful to animal well being.

We have demonstrated that there are alternatives.

Farmers have to demonstrate that their product is untainted.

With traders like Pigfarmer and Freeranger, we can re-estbalish carcass trade.

Scout
Its the First In this Country Of Its Kind. Pigfarmer has done good. Real Good. Although I await until pig Farmer formally comes out.
As the Free range Farmers one by one add onto this wonderful site I am sure the Australian People will use it.
Fantasic Job pig Farmer!

Today of course we hear even more disturbing news of cruelty again , [or should I say Still at intensive pork farms.
This work was carried out by Animal Liberation.

Roberson CLAIMS these people have not acted in the interests of animal welfare by entering the premises!

We all! know whos welfare they are so concerned about.

Its their OWN trying to conceal the awful conditions the Australian Governments allow these low lifes to operate.

Remember we have different State Government laws throughout Australia.
So the labour Government are JUST as reasonsibly as the Howard Government.
We need some proper Animal Welfare acts in this country.

All animals have a right to walk around free.
What type of country are we.
We must All stand up to the Howard andlabour Govrnment and say Enogh is Enough. STOP eating Feed Lot Intensive Meat. Stop Buying meat or eggs that are not free range. Its up to all of us to make a stand and dO something about this.
Pigfarmer has made a start. Lets learn from people like pig farmer and free ranger and the other gOOD free range farmer out there. If you are a free range farmer we would love to hear from you and want to buy your products. Something tell me they are going to be very much in demand.