Hi Nicky

I guess you've seen the following report - right in Yabby's home town?

01.06.2008 | Australia | Port of Fremantle

Animals’ Angels observe and document the transport of 18240 sheep in 32 transports to the live export ship; Al Messilah. This ship arrived from Portland Victoria with sheep already on board and will load more sheep for Bahrain.

There are no West Aust government AWU general inspectors at the port to ensure the welfare of the animals. It is Sunday and no one is available in government to take any calls.

We call the AQIS inspector and inform him of issues such as sheep sitting and laying on other sheep when there is room in the truck to spread the animals out more, lack of height for sheep to stand without hitting their heads or backs on the roof, sheep with extensive shearing cuts, sheep with eye problems, possible downer and blind sheep on the trucks.

We also ask him to watch a person who uses an electrical shock prodder in many sheep when the electrical shock prodder should only be used “sparingly”.

So Yabby claims: "There was a conference in Perth involving all the scientific community and others who work on live sheep issues, just a month or two ago."

Oh good, Yabby. Please provide us with a link please.

*Oh good, Yabby. Please provide us with a link please.*

Gawd woman, it was discussed in detail in the farming press.
If you are going to have a go at the industry, at least bother
to keep up with it. There are weekly publications such as
the Countryman, Farm Weekly, discussing all this stuff.

Sorry, but unlike you, I don't live by my google bar.

I actually subscribe to those journals and saw nothing. I have, however, just finished reading LiveCorp's Shipboard Performance Report for 2007, and it really doesn't appear that you're getting any better at what you do - sheep and goat mortalities are certainly on the rise.

The number of mortality-free cattle voyages declined. Amongst the findings about cattle was an insistence of exporters in exporting "bos taurus" cattle at a time of the year when it is known that more will die of heat exhaustion. There is nothing new in the report about the causes of death of the sheep.

The "collateral damage" overall looks to be something like 38,000 animals, despite a substantial drop in the export of live sheep. The full statistics are at the DAFF "Animal welfare" site

http://www.daff.gov.au/animal-plant-health/welfare/export-trade/mortalities

Emanuels managed to kill 1,658 sheep on a 32 day voyage in July 2007 and another 1,002 in September 2007 then on one voyage in December in December another 1,311 and another 1,980 sheep died. Haleen managed to kill 12.5% of the boats on one voyage in June 2007.

As for "Actions by the Secretary" against Emanuels - you guessed it - NONE. That's before I analyze the rest.

Nicky

*I actually subscribe to those journals and saw nothing.*

I guess old age is setting in dear, check and update the glasses.

Farm Weekly April 17th, pages 16 and 17. Its all there for you,
if you open your eyes.

"Gawd woman, it was discussed in detail in the farming press"

Really Yabby? Well then what was the title of the seminar? What date was it held and under whose umbrella and where was the venue in Perth? And to which scientific community do you refer?

Or don't you know that either?

PS: I wouldn't waste my time reading the propaganda in the rags you subscribe to - rags which you persistently quote in typically vague fashion but which you are unable to substantiate.

Just give me the details I've requested, or have you simply fabricated the details as per usual?

Dickie, I think he must have, because I have searched through the archives and found nothing (in Farm Weekly).

The Emanuels death toll of sheep between July and December 2007 was 4,506, in fact, if my calculations from the DAFF spreadsheet are correct. Not bad, in less than six months, is it? And that's just them.

Cheers
Nicky