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meat prices and value for money

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And then they will find Yabby
He’ll look pretty Scabby
And they yell at him
Come here you coward.

To The Ally He’ll run
And then they’ll have fun
Kicking his arse until he’s scourers

They will drag him on his bum
And he’ll cry for his Mum
Come quickly and run

She will run to his side
And always wise
She will guide him to
The edge of the bowers.

She will cry as she dies
And Scabby Yabby won’t
Believe his eyes

When they reach into her

And tearing it out
While she’s still alive

And tossing it right to his side

Her Last words will be
My Son You never listened to me
I told you not to vote for
The Milk bar Kid
Who’s not short of a quid!

To be continued full full update of Governments interference to bring in Abattoir workers from oversees.

The Federal Government Immigration Minister has imposed upon meat abattoir owners only to pay all families school education health and air tickets for their staff.

PALE is calling on the Federal Minister for Immigration to impose same conditions upon ALL workers in ALL Industries from oversees.

In the mean time pale will change the unfairness of this blatant act in federal Court to put to one industry only at disadvantage.

The blatant attempt to support the government’s top political donations which come from an evil industry is putting Australians international reputation to shame.

If Asia ME wants good meat they are welcome to invest in regional areas and train aboriginal people and make a future for migrants who the rudd Government promised to increase by large numbers.

Muslim people do not wish to be known as the cruel. They have asked the Government to be honest and tell the public the REAL reason why the live exporting of Animals exists.

Most Muslims these days buy from their local stores- chilled like us!

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Dear Editor,



As elected representative for the AMIEU members in Nth Queensland, I would like to make a couple of points concerning live cattle exports in Townsville
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Saturday, 19 April 2008 9:03:47 AM
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Hi all
Fantasy land indeed.

Yabby, I thought you assured us that you settled for nothing less than the Becrux. The reality is that this woman, now in charge of the almost 30 year old ship, most likely would not even see the animals, much less give a "proverbial" about them.

She would be able to falsify mortality and other records as well as the next, I guess.

For the record, Yabby, the Deneb Prima has had multiple inspections in Australia during which anything up to 15 significant defects were found.

It was last detained in Port Adelaide for days last September with defective fire safety equipment

"The Safety Management System as implemented on this vessel does not ensure vessel is maintained in compliance with mandatory rules and regulations (deficiencies 3 to 8 fire safety arrangements)"

(AMSA Port State Control website)

It is a converted contained ship which used to be called the Ming Universe, and became the Rodolfo Mata. It is owned by Siba Ships (they of the bright, shiny new carriers). Basically, same s..., different name. Since then, they changed the name again (as they seem to be keen on doing with the ones with the bad records), now it is the Stella Deneb. Poor Yabby, ripped off again.

Cheers
Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Saturday, 19 April 2008 11:31:38 PM
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Nicky, so what if the Deneb is 30 years old? If the hull is sound
then its not a problem. Either she is seaworthy or not, period.

You might be over 30 years old. Should the boyfriend now put
you on the scrapheap? :)

So what if inspectors found some faults? That is what inspectors
do, walk around, nitpicking over details. I've been through audits,
I know what these fellows are like. If they are finding faults,
it means that they are doing their jobs. We used to leave them
a couple of faults to find, for they could justify their huge
expense by making a list of things that needed doing. That seemed
to make them happy :)

The Deneb AFAIK was the first livestock carrier for Siba ships.
My point has been that Siba are taking a different approach,
compared to some of the ME shippers that used to be in the trade
and have left. Livestock welfare is certainly extremely high on
their list of priorities, thus they built the Becrux and are now
building two more purpose built shiny new ships. So any lambs
that I put on a boat will be with one of the Siba ships.

The reality is that you would not have the foggiest what the
female captain is thinking or doing. You have never met her,
so don't know. She might well check her cargo every day. Anyone
who I know who has been on ships, strolls up and down the ship
alone for exercise.

Poor Nicky, over 30 so ready for the crapheap :)
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 20 April 2008 6:48:40 AM
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Yabby
the only boats leaving should be Australian built by our Aboriginal people and other Ausies. They should be ships of boxes of meat. We dont need other countries taking our jobs our kids furtues and avove all our raw material before its vakue added.
Lets face it they only take these poor creatures alive to steal our jobs and provide jobs and vaulue adding for their own countries.'

What on earth do these people think they are doing in Government to allow this and when are we going to see political donations made public.
Now there is your real reason for the cruel live trade being allowed to contiune. Shame on this Country and we say

NOT IN OUR NAME

BAN LIVE EXPORTS AUSTRALIAS GREATEST SHAME

The whole world is talking about this cruel trade.
open the abattoirs and let skilled migrants in

Kevin Rudd the people of this nation Will nOT toleratethis trade.
You set kerry obrien up to lie to the public- either that or you lied to him
Which is it?
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Monday, 21 April 2008 12:53:35 AM
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Hi all
Recent reports indicate that it is the "skilled workers" who are bringing their cruel handling and slaughter practices into Australia, and there is little that the AMIEU can do about it (I'm not referring to THAT slaughterhouse in Victoria, where the film clearly shows long prodding devices being shoved into the anuses of sheep who have nowhere to move to, and a sheep left in a stunning box for 30 minutes over the killing floor while the "workers" bugger off to lunch). This particular report comes from Yabby's home state. They need to be made tobehave themselves or be sent back to where they came from. Where is the RSPCA? Silence...
Cheers
Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 12:06:07 AM
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Nickysaid
Recent reports indicate ...

Palereplies

Ok Nicky, so what are you saying now? You support live exports? You cant have it both way .
Of course there are cruel operators. Of course there is stuff all control.
However you girls OPPOSE the program to bring in skilled trained Migrants to work and train others.

You REFUSED to attend meetings to assist to bring in big players prepared to put Gas into their plants.

Then you say pale I have told you before I have no time to get involved with your programs.
You say there are many other ways and people working and ours is just one of them.

Please Nicky for everybody’s sanity of OLO just name one?

Tell us of any other moves to actually do something about it.

To go on saying OH, its cruel (while it grows) is "shear neglect"

Your thumbing your noses at the assistance of people working with those who buy the stock is arrogance.

"To blame the farmers is ignorance"!. You people are doing more harm than good.!

Nicky said

And there is little that the AMIEU can do about it
PALE replies.

Oh for Christ sake Nicky you make me swear, you lot. Wake up and realize the AMIEU were ‘used’ to KEEP workers OUT! =To support live exports.

This is political Nicky. Its time you girls took some advise from people who know what the” real deal” is.

Nickysaid
Where is the RSPCA

PALEreplies
Told you before they can NOT enter a plant without being invited or a warrant.
This comes under DPI and others- State Government if domestic AQIS if Export.
I told you RSPCA CEOs and Inspectors are very short in any case.

=and paid their wages by Federal and State Governments.

That would mean for example Dr Wirth who was in charge or President of RSPCA was being paid his wages by the Government.

Still you need not worry anymore because he’s now President of WSPA Australia, working with the other Presidents hand Chosen by the board. "World Wide".

Well done girls.!
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 9:08:19 AM
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