Hi all
Yabby, if you were reading properly you would have noted that it was the MLA propaganda website to which PALE referred you. And it's full of claptrap, of course. Very limited claptrap too. Animals Australia is definitely far better at what they do, because you're really limited when you're trying to defend the indefensible. You should read some of their scientific papers before being so quick to criticize. But you probably haven't really looked past the front page before drawing your conclusions. The "red herring" about the insurance companies is the same as the rubbish you threw in about the Catholic Church.

So sheep get hot and thirsy here. And there are cruel farmers who leave them that way. Maybe they even tie their legs together (is that for fun, or what?) I would like to think we are not talking about the same level of civilization, however, given what we've seen from the Middle East. But you obviously think all that we've seen from the Middle East is a "pissy issue", since you appear to have nothing substantive to argue with except your quotes from the MLA propaganda bible. Individual thought ... now there's a concept.

Tell me, is it fine to keep sheep in pens in sheds for their productive lives for ultra-fine wool too?

Interesting that the "wonder of wonders' mulesing clip has fallen foul of the fashion giant Hugo Boss, too. Blind Freddy could tell you that as the flesh under the clip decays it is open to maggot infestation. Who did they think they were fooling?

Cheers,
Nicky

*So sheep get hot and thirsy here. And there are cruel farmers who leave them that way.*

ROFL Nicky. So you think that we are going to build them huge
airconditioned buildings in the paddocks? It gets hot in Australia
in summer, that is the reality. I used to dig postholes in that
kind of weather, when I was young and silly :) Temps in the
40s are quite common in WA, in summer.

*if you were reading properly you would have noted that it was the MLA propaganda website to which PALE referred you.*

Ok Nicky, now go back a page and click on Getrude's website and
tell me if that is MLA propaganda :) You really are not the
brightest at times lol.

*The "red herring" about the insurance companies is the same as the rubbish you threw in about the Catholic Church.*

No red herring at all, just the observation of the similar marketing
tactics, to push emotional buttons. The Catholics use it, as I showed,
insurance companies use it, AA use it. All very clever marketing!
I'll stick to rational debate thank you, let others be sucked in
by the emotional hype of the advertisers.

As to the mulesing clips, I don't know of a single farmer whom
I know, who thinks they are any good, or would use them. The
solution is to make Trisolfen easily available, then farmers will
use it. If they stop mulesing, then lots of sheep will die in the
paddocks. Ok, it won't be my sheep. Genetics is a long term
solution. The Europeans of course are free to stop using wool.
Most of their houses of course burn oil-gas to keep warm in
winter. Let them burn 110$ oil and make the Arabs even richer

Speaking of marketing tactics, it seems live exporters are really trying to soften their image with youth and now lots of the feminine touch.

Surely a female captain would make sure the animals were well cared for .... right?

http://theland.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/article/84911.aspx

PF

Thanks for that- Er, Yeh sure right.

Live Animals shipping agents tries to hide behind the Skirt of a young 'lady'? ship Captain=

Yet isnt it funny when-
you look past the money
there is no sugar and honey
and its all pretty crummy

They hide and they crindge
behind a womens skirt like cowards

They head for the hills
and take all their pills
And If 'their names'
are mentioned they cower

They are low life cowards
these old friends of Howards

who hide behind the Vaile.
and follow his trail
Downer is running and
his friends are a coming

They said look what we did
Best give it to the Milk bar kid


And when the time comes
They will be named one by one
some may even have sons

They are gutless swines
Who have no morals at all
One day their ship will come in.

It will take them away
And together they`ll pay
these scum are not men
and God will be meeting with them.

They will crawl of their bellys
with the legs like the jelly
being taken from ships and the bowers.

With all the hunger and thirst
their temples will busrt with fear
and knowledge knowing whats
coming is much worse.

When people are scum
their time must come.

looks like Kevin Rudd
is only a Dud
who they have by the greasy
hands that they rub

Hes just the milky Bar kid
whos not short of a quid

together they`ll plot
until they all rot

Name and Shame The Cruel Live Animal Exporters that 'think they can hide behind some youth and womens shirts.

Elders are a shipping agents of live Animals. Depite the many enquires all of which found this cruel trade should be stopped immediatly they still operate along with Landmark and AWB and many others.
In a desperate attempt to defy RSPCA and world wide Animal Welfare groups they have engaged six young people and a woman to be the face of the cruel live Animal Trade.

*Surely a female captain would make sure the animals were well cared for .... right?*

Sheesh, my lambs went on the Deneb. Perhaps she gave them all
names and tucked them in each night :)

Seems that image has sent you right into fantasy land too yabby:)