Nicky


We got this on track several years ago but we asked and asked the others to help by getting involved.

I would like to get it back on track but since then they have already started on 7 plants etc and of course Elders and other play copy cat so again forums are not the place for this.

If you can contact Bidda ask her to call me- She has the number.

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Hi all
Just checking in quickly because I am going away today and will have limited internet access. PALE, I had a copy of an old MoU with Kuwait, I think it was, but MoUs are not enforceable documents anyway, and are really pretty worthless. They were nothing more than a publicity stunt by the government to shut the Australian public up. None of the current MoUs, as I understand it, provide for any more than the animals being unloaded into quarantine facilities, or just even unloaded, and that's only to head off another potential "Cormo Express". The only one that was additional was that unfortunate second one with Egypt, which was supposed to support OIE standards, and we saw how well that worked.

OIE standards only provide for the very minimum in animal welfare, if you have a look at them.

I don't know what to suggest if you can't get hold of Bidda Jones. I'm not part of any group either, so perhaps HSI will prove to be your best support. What about RSPCA Queensland? Can't they get some response from Dr Jones? And what about the AMIEU up there?

For the record, I have attended several loadings of ships, and seen hundreds of sick and injured animals both in feedlots and loaded. So much for AQIS.

Cheers
Nicky

Nicky, taking peoples dogs for a walk or paying people pensions, all
add to GDP, that does not mean that they create wealth for Australia
or pay our overseas debts of hundreds of millions of $.

Mining and farming, our number 1 and 2 export earners, are wealth
creators and let you lead your cushy lifestyle. Neither is a significant
part of the economy, both are a crucial part of the
economy. No exports = banana republic, ask any economist.

The manufacturing that does still exist here for instance, is busily
making specialised products for those two, quite different from
your Chinese el cheapo imports, where we as a nation are not competitive.
But we still have to pay our bills as a nation.

As to subsidies in farming, they go largely to patches of NSW and
Qld. So cut them off, they don't come to WA. But also cut off payments
to the MV industry and other industries. Don't yet again discrimate
against farming, which has carried this nation through its history.

I should hope that students pay for degrees. Why should little people
pay for the degrees of expensive lawyers? Yet billions are still
poured into universities, as degrees are still subsidised, not
self funded.

The court case was largely to do with the wording of the new
animal welfare legislation, which was not very clear. Now we know
its a problem, it is time to change the legislation. Its been a
waste of money so far, for the farmers fighting fund too, as well
as for the exporters. Hopefully AA will pay their costs :)

Nicky said-

MOU with Kuwait,

Goodmorning everyone.
Nicky Robert requested a copy of MOU. Agree with everything you said.
It might be time other lawyers assisted. As far as I know RSPCA use one of the biggest law firms in this country.
It isnt like there are not plenty of -people complaining.

Bidda did contact me Nicky and I invited her along with another head of RPSCA who I had already discussed this with.

She is not able to attend on that date. So we will see.

I also sent her some info that I think you should have if you care to email our site. I can not put this on the forum.

Nicky said
And what about the AMIEU up there? and RSPCA Queensland?

Pale. Replies

Nicky in the past the CEO RSPCA and AMIEU QLD and federal leaders of AMIEU have attended big meetings. Really Big..

BUT we have ALWAYS then required RSPCA, head office and AA onboard. I have given up on AA. I think YOU should attend



Yabby-
subsidies

Here Here, I say this is getting exciting. I love talking about subsidies. I look forward to it Yabbs.

Yabby said
Yet billions are still poured into universities, as degrees are still subsidised, not
self funded.
Oh Shucks Yabbs, but Your 'too' kind today. I love even more talking about Landmark Elders Unis Vet students etc. By George they do keep turning out the AVA Presidents dont they:)

There was another interesting study done into Schools and Landmark word wide.

Umm, Now we are getting a little dirt on our contacts. I like that.

Yet billions are still
poured into universities, as degrees are still subsidised, not
self funded.

The court case was largely to do with the wording of the new
animal welfare legislation, which was not very clear. Now we know
its a problem, it is time to change the legislation.

Yabby
Our Lawyers would agree with that and this time we wont wait to be invited .

I will tell you someting for free Yabby you lie when you say you want a sensible debate on live exports.

In the last half a dozen posts especially I posted some pretty priverledged information.

Not a peep from you as usual.

This is what you have done before.
As soon as anyone starts talking real shop with you you suddenly dont respond.

Then you say of you girls dont know anything about the live trade or trade or how things go down within the indusrty.

It seems to me you are the one that is shy of talking about the industry and what is on the agenda not us.

Your friends who contacted OLO to cry about their names being posted should lear if they are doing it and they are ashamed of it then maybe they should STOP doing it ah

http://theland.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/livestock/cattle/article/84285.aspx

What do you think of this? This strategy is going to be tough to beat.